[pHo_e92]

I got the 453s for an AWESOME price from Allen @ simplytire. He even beat all online prices.

[e9012345]

Originally Posted by Wolf 335

mush?

Yes - they feel like mush.. I could breathe strongly and the sidewall would flex.

My advice is to stop being a cheap-ass and get some real tyres.

[Saturns]

Originally Posted by pHo_e92

I got the 453s for an AWESOME price from Allen @ simplytire. He even beat all online prices.

You got em first so you'll be the guinie pig. Mines not showing up for a few weeks. So if you say they are $hit I will change my order and tell you 'told you so...'


If it performs better than V12 or RE760 Sports then it was worth it.
I dont expect it to better than PSS but I cant be buying PSS sets every season as I burn through them in one season
I do have the Falken Euro winter and they were solid over the winter with my car.
Again the EuroWinters are totally different than 453 but they were great performance winters for the price.

[pHo_e92]

Originally Posted by Saturns

You got em first so you'll be the guinie pig. Mines not showing up for a few weeks. So if you say they are $hit I will change my order and tell you 'told you so...'


If it performs better than V12 or RE760 Sports then it was worth it.
I dont expect it to better than PSS but I cant be buying PSS sets every season as I burn through them in one season
I do have the Falken Euro winter and they were solid over the winter with my car.
Again the EuroWinters are totally different than 453 but they were great performance winters for the price.

LOL! Sounds good will let you know

[Wolf 335]

Originally Posted by e9012345

Yes - they feel like mush.. I could breathe strongly and the sidewall would flex.

My advice is to stop being a cheap-ass and get some real tyres.

Some tire stores are saying that V12s sidewalls are stiffer than Michelins.

With these Hankook V12 one minute you hear a good review, another minute a bad one

What to do...

[mchong723]

U should try the vredestein ultrac sensanta they r more good looking n performance tire
V12 hankook Korean tire I won't decide only cheap !
U r driving BMW u should go with better tire !
Also u have money for upgrade yr wheel why not paid little bit more $
To make it better
U r not driving Japanese car or Korean car shouldn't decide this two brand!

[Saturns]

Originally Posted by mchong723

U should try the vredestein ultrac sensanta they r more good looking n performance tire
V12 hankook Korean tire I won't decide only cheap !
U r driving BMW u should go with better tire !
Also u have money for upgrade yr wheel why not paid little bit more $
To make it better
U r not driving Japanese car or Korean car shouldn't decide this two brand!

VREDS are nice tires. But the cost of VREDs in my size is the same price as PSS and PSS are better performing tires.

[domrep]

Originally Posted by pHo_e92

I still think they wont be better then V12s or anywhere as close to being almost on the same level as PSSs. We will see =)

Very very interested to see the result of this. Keep us posted guys

[domrep]

Originally Posted by mchong723

U should try the vredestein ultrac sensanta they r more good looking n performance tire
V12 hankook Korean tire I won't decide only cheap !
U r driving BMW u should go with better tire !
Also u have money for upgrade yr wheel why not paid little bit more $
To make it better
U r not driving Japanese car or Korean car shouldn't decide this two brand!

^ and another uninformed/misguided reply. "YOU DRIVE BMW, YOU NEED BUY MOST EXPENSIVE EVERRRRYTHING!!!"

[Saturns]

I have put chinese and korean tires on my Italian car and have no regrets.
It comes down to preference, budget and intended use.

Maybe thats why I cant keep up with Nick or Denzil.

[Crulexis]

Originally Posted by Saturns

I have put chinese and korean tires on my Italian car and have no regrets.
It comes down to preference, budget and intended use.

Maybe thats why I cant keep up with Nick or Denzil.

Mind if I ask what kind of rubbers you ran on your car Saturn?

[techy1]

Originally Posted by pHo_e92

I got the 453s for an AWESOME price from Allen @ simplytire. He even beat all online prices.

keep me posted... I still have time as the weather is not getting any better

Originally Posted by domrep

^ and another uninformed/misguided reply. "YOU DRIVE BMW, YOU NEED BUY MOST EXPENSIVE EVERRRRYTHING!!!"

thats exactly what I thought when i read it... lol I don't mind spending the extra $$ if it's worth it... but save a few here and there if i can...

this thread is exactly what I've been seeing when checking reviews mixed reviews some say good some say bad...

I've always been happy with hankook so may opt out for those again. Have hankook winters and those were awesome in snow even for RWD.
or way for pHo_e92 to post his review

[Saturns]

Originally Posted by Crulexis

Mind if I ask what kind of rubbers you ran on your car Saturn?

I dont use DOT or cross tires as I dont do to much of those events to justify. Below is the tires I have used personally.

1. Michellin Pilot Super Sports - my best summer performance to date. Seems to run down faster the the ones below.
2. Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 - 2nd best performance
3. Michelin Pilot Sport (2 sets) - good summer performance but seemed more stable than above .. maybe due to more square profile. Good life on thread. OE for my car.
4. Yokohama Avid Envigors - good all season, good in summer and good in winter. Can be used on dry winters wihout ice or snow on ground, perfect for Fall and Spring temparatures which is when i use em.
5. Nokian WRG - great all weather. Kicks in heavy rain and fantastic in light snow. Better than Envigors for winter or cold nights. Squishy in hot summers
6. Falken Eurowinter 439 - my winters

on order Falken fk453 - same thread as PS2. No experience on this yet. Tested on Porsche Cup cars which is a good thing.
Waiting for Pho to give a review.
I was going to either get Potenza RE760 Sport or Ventus V12 as both those tires are same PRICE range as Fk453. I am going to try FK453 as it is deemed as Falkens ultra high performance tire.

[e9012345]

Originally Posted by Wolf 335

Some tire stores are saying that V12s sidewalls are stiffer than Michelins.

With these Hankook V12 one minute you hear a good review, another minute a bad one

What to do...

First of all - find and post that review on here. That's some ridiculous shit.

Secondly, the V12's aren't BAD - they're just not VERY good. Regardless they are an amazing bang/buck tire that is still quite fast and grippy and excellent wet traction... they just FEEEL so slooooooow and spongey, thats all.

[Wolf 335]

e9012345 are you still running V12 or did you switch?

[myfly335]

v12 sucks they finish real quick

[Saturns]

Review that shows Ventus V12 is not too bad.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...12-evo-page-10

[Saturns]

I also just noticed the Falken 453 also has $80 rebate.
So with the pricing from Allen and the rebate that makes it very very cheap. Cheapest tire set Ive bought to date.

[pHo_e92]

I will have a full review after i break in my tires. Hope to get good weather soon. want to put on my summers NOW!!!! sigh......

[Crulexis]

Originally Posted by myfly335

v12 sucks they finish real quick

Just like you!! HAh!!

[Crulexis]

Originally Posted by Saturns

I also just noticed the Falken 453 also has $80 rebate.
So with the pricing from Allen and the rebate that makes it very very cheap. Cheapest tire set Ive bought to date.

I frekin bought 3 sets of tires from Tire 2-3 and forgot to use the rebates ... TOO Late now so next time I gotta do em the day of ...

[D's Bimmer]

Originally Posted by demontwinz

V12's


Just want I have heard from Tireshops and forums that it's a better tire

Just fyi .. i got Michelin PSS recently. They have dropped in price and there's a $70 rebate as well.

I went with the Pilot SS's as well. They were basically the same price as the V12's!!!!