f30 unveiled.. disappointed

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 06:46 PM

mmmmmm not a great departure from the current model. But will definately go in and have a look when the coupe comes out, by then I should be ready for a new one. The question will be do I wait until the tuners have some time under their belt first or drive stock for a year or so and then start the modding all again??????

theriz · 10-16-2011, 06:58 PM

i dont like it.

QLD · 10-16-2011, 07:04 PM

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._catalogue.pdf

Based on this sexy beast... the Coupe is goin' to be sex on wheels...

QLD · 10-16-2011, 07:30 PM

After reading the brochure, tell you something else I don't like... EVERY model now comes standard with Auto STOP/START technology...

Yuk...!

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by QLD

After reading the brochure, tell you something else I don't like... EVERY model now comes standard with Auto STOP/START technology...

Yuk...!

I'm a H8N that as well, but I think it can be coded off.

Also looks like no DCT

David328M-Sport · 10-16-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by QLD

.........one comment I did read on a forum was about the interior......

Where's the cup-holders??? Invisible or non-existent??

The sales brochure states:

Larger pockets in the front doors, whose lines and surfaces open up towards the instrument panel, now have space for drinks bottles up to one litre in size. Added to which, two large drinks holders are now integrated into the centre console ahead of the gearshift lever. If desired, the cupholders can be swapped for an oddments tray, which is stored in a designated area of the glove compartment when not in use.

Cheers

QLD · 10-16-2011, 08:01 PM

A pic..

Rivenscyr · 10-16-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

I'm a H8N that as well, but I think it can be coded off.

Also looks like no DCT

lol?

anyways DCT probs wont be used in the passenger car range... the 8speed auto from short stints in Chris.G's car is very good.

Chris.G · 10-16-2011, 09:19 PM

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lol?

anyways DCT probs wont be used in the passenger car range... the 8speed auto from short stints in Chris.G's car is very good.

Makes a big difference, my mates new X3 msports 30d is pretty farkin quick. I'm trying to get him to join us in a mini meet soon.

Rivenscyr · 10-16-2011, 09:28 PM

Im sorry.. You will acctually join us this time?

Not sure i can believe you :P

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 09:28 PM

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Makes a big difference, my mates new X3 msports 30d is pretty farkin quick. I'm trying to get him to join us in a mini meet soon.

Looking at the brochure again they are quoting 5.5 for the new lighter 335. AAAAhhhh my DCT does it in 5.4 chaps. Whats with that

Chris.G · 10-16-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivenscyr

Im sorry.. You will acctually join us this time?

Not sure i can believe you :P

The rappers ying and yang are never seen anywhere by separately so when my mate is ready to roll we be heading to a meet. Ying and Yang style uleh....he has got a white x3

Chris.G · 10-16-2011, 09:34 PM

@ Pcock...underrated mate, guaranteed to be faster.

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 09:41 PM

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@ Pcock...underrated mate, guaranteed to be faster.

mmmmmm don't know about that one.....

Lets assume they are conservative than the n54 DCT would also be conservative.

Just seems a little odd that they would bring out an eight cogger on a lighter car that is still slower than the old 7 cogger DCT.

As far as I am aware the 335 currently is only available in MT and DCT so why bring back the AT when the DCT is faster?

Chris.G · 10-16-2011, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

mmmmmm don't know about that one.....

Lets assume they are conservative than the n54 DCT would also be conservative.

Just seems a little odd that they would bring out an eight cogger on a lighter car that is still slower than the old 7 cogger DCT.

As far as I am aware the 335 currently is only available in MT and DCT so why bring back the AT when the DCT is faster?

Here I thought it was being released in DCT...Why would BMW go back to AT? I haven't read the release specs yet, is it actually going to be AT instead of DCT?

Rivenscyr · 10-16-2011, 10:11 PM

well im going to say this... (not been in many DCTs)
but arent they a little jerky from a standstill? more expensive to repair/replace

although their shift speeds may be superior, that doesnt really matter in a commuter car... (was going to add something about gearing for SBC)

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 10:13 PM

Sorry I think I have that wrong, just re-read the brochure and they use the term 'Sports automatic transmission' which is the same as that for the current DCT box. This is as opposed to the term 'automatic transmission' for the, well, the auto box....

But I still dont get it, as the new model is lighter and has an extra cog surely that would be more like 5.2 or 5.3, compared to the current model 5.4???

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 10:21 PM

I do hope the display/dash combo looks better in real life then in these pics, because from here it looks pretty

.

Its almost like they were about to release the new model and some sales chap says 'hey where's the sat nav screen', crickets, crickets, crickets everywhere

Chris.G · 10-16-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

Sorry I think I have that wrong, just re-read the brochure and they use the term 'Sports automatic transmission' which is the same as that for the current DCT box. This is as opposed to the term 'automatic transmission' for the, well, the auto box....

But I still dont get it, as the new model is lighter and has an extra cog surely that would be more like 5.2 or 5.3, compared to the current model 5.4???

Maybe, just maybe BMW have put the new software upgrade that lags the car slightly (introduced currently on the e9x's due to fuel pump failures) so it can help prevent the fuel pump issues. I remember a few members who had there cars serviced and left with a slower vehicle lol, the dealers had to change back to older software after complaints.

pcockley · 10-16-2011, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.G

Maybe, just maybe BMW have put the new software upgrade that lags the car slightly (introduced currently on the e9x's due to fuel pump failures) so it can help prevent the fuel pump issues. I remember a few members who had there cars serviced and left with a slower vehicle lol, the dealers had to change back to older software after complaints.

Well if that is the case it sounds like there is STILL no answer to the HPFP

Chris.G · 10-16-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pcockley

Well if that is the case it sounds like there is STILL no answer to the HPFP

Lol there never was an answer mate, the N55 was suppose to be the problem free update... failed hard.

Rivenscyr · 10-16-2011, 10:39 PM

Well they carried over the e9x engines to the f30....
Does this mean there is a possiblity of a new range of engines mid-way through the f30 life cycle?

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Rivenscyr Captain 25 Rep 958 Posts Drives: muzza-tastic cruiser Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: george st iTrader: (0)	well im going to say this... (not been in many DCTs) but arent they a little jerky from a standstill? more expensive to repair/replace although their shift speeds may be superior, that doesnt really matter in a commuter car... (was going to add something about gearing for SBC)
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pcockley Banned 43 Rep 1,719 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: sydney iTrader: (1)	Sorry I think I have that wrong, just re-read the brochure and they use the term 'Sports automatic transmission' which is the same as that for the current DCT box. This is as opposed to the term 'automatic transmission' for the, well, the auto box.... But I still dont get it, as the new model is lighter and has an extra cog surely that would be more like 5.2 or 5.3, compared to the current model 5.4???
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pcockley Banned 43 Rep 1,719 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: sydney iTrader: (1)	I do hope the display/dash combo looks better in real life then in these pics, because from here it looks pretty . Its almost like they were about to release the new model and some sales chap says 'hey where's the sat nav screen', crickets, crickets, crickets everywhere Attached Images
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