F*** Reverse Rake !!!!!!1one!

diplomat128 · 05-04-2013, 07:21 PM

I just installed my AluFelgen CSL reps and my 335i e92 ZSP looks like it's doing a freaking WHEELIE. My neighbour has an e92 328i with normal non-sport suspension and his car looks nice and even (same gap front and rear). Is there something wrong with my car?

BTW: They are 19x9.5 ET35 and they are rubbing the way my car is right now when I hit dips in the road. I just received Tein S-Tech springs in the mail and I'm wondering if I should install them or not (F 1.4", R0.6") with the stock dampers. I'm actually debating if I should install JUST the front. Is there like a suspension spacer I can install to raise the back a bit? What should I do? I really don't want to spend 1000$ on the suspension right now.

Thanks!

F80M · 05-04-2013, 07:32 PM

Pix of your car doing wheelie before the solution to this plz..

F80M · 05-04-2013, 07:33 PM

Here ... http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273331

Wheelie pix in return? lol

diplomat128 · 05-04-2013, 07:43 PM

Honestly I don't even think the perches are gonna be enough. It needs at least a 1" drop in the front. In the back no drop is needed...

diplomat128 · 05-04-2013, 07:45 PM

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diplomat128 · 05-04-2013, 07:47 PM

Wow sorry for the huge pics... They don't want to resize..

idrift4wd · 05-04-2013, 07:51 PM

i would see if you can get a pair of front springs.

Eurocraze · 05-05-2013, 08:33 PM

Dude, i jus put new 19's on too, and I also got the sport suspension.. And my shit looks the same! I also rub on the passenger rear on decent bumps and dips... I'm runnin same wheel specs...
What's the tire size?

Eurocraze · 05-05-2013, 08:34 PM

Yea let me know how gettin a pair of front springs works.. In jus gonna buy coils

Eric335 · 05-05-2013, 08:58 PM

Almost every stock suspension 335/M3 ive seen looks like this. I am pretty damn low in the rear and 4x4 up front as well, and im on stock 18s

diplomat128 · 05-05-2013, 11:57 PM

Is so strange though my neighbours 328i non sport doesnt have this stupid reverse rake. FYI tires are 265/30/19 in the back w/ et35 offset 9.5" wheels. I'm really considering installing the front springs only

jwong77 · 05-06-2013, 01:57 AM

I know you already dismissed the front perch idea, but I put them in my car and it made the front and rear a lot more even. Here is a pic of it. I used to have the wheelie effect too, but I got rid of it when I upgraded to the BMW Performance Springs and supreme front perches.

Hybrid For Life · 05-06-2013, 02:37 AM

Get legit coils, screw all these lowering spring and perch crap. Do it right once, never worry about it again. /Thread

diplomat128 · 05-06-2013, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwong77

I know you already dismissed the front perch idea, but I put them in my car and it made the front and rear a lot more even. Here is a pic of it. I used to have the wheelie effect too, but I got rid of it when I upgraded to the BMW Performance Springs and supreme front perches.

Wow that looks really gangster. I love the stance this is exactly the look I am going for. However I am pretty sure your BMW performance springs have a lot to do with the result because the perches by themselves barely make a difference.

and HybridForLife:

I'm thinking about it but I just spent 2 stacks on my wheels and tires and now another stack for school semester... If I can get what I am looking for for 2x cheaper I will be happy.

Bobbybmw22 · 05-06-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwong77

I know you already dismissed the front perch idea, but I put them in my car and it made the front and rear a lot more even. Here is a pic of it. I used to have the wheelie effect too, but I got rid of it when I upgraded to the BMW Performance Springs and supreme front perches.

what kind of wheels are those?

therealm3 · 05-06-2013, 03:07 PM

Or, you could drop the front a bit, for free, very easily. I was going to do a separate thread on this with what I did to my car but here is the cliff notes version:

If you look at the strut there is a tab that sets how far down it is allowed to sit in the hub/carrier. Well if you look at the way the tab is shaped, the bottom and top parts are not physically attached to the strut body, only the middle 1/2 to 2/3 is welded. So I jacked the car up, supported the hub with my jack, undid the nut/bolt combo that squeezes the strut, and cut the tab straight across to the first part that is welded. It was very easy to do as the metal is kind of soft compared to other things on the car. then put my jack under the hub/carrier where the tie rod bolts and slowly started jacking upwards. this pushed the strut tube down and the hub up till it hit the "new" stopping point. Tighten the nut/bolt, and repeat on the other side. Measured wheel gap before and after and the car dropped a bit more than 3/8". it doesn't sound like much, but visually it makes a big difference on a sport package car. In reading through the thread for the Supreme perches this is about the same drop they are getting without all the work or the loss of suspension travel. I have 1500 miles like this with 0 issues. Well worth it.

jwong77 · 05-06-2013, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diplomat128

Wow that looks really gangster. I love the stance this is exactly the look I am going for. However I am pretty sure your BMW performance springs have a lot to do with the result because the perches by themselves barely make a difference.

Thanks! I agree, I get lots of compliments on it all the time. Not sure what it'd be like without the perches, I put them in at the same time.

But why not just get the BMW Performance springs like I did? It rides great, handles well and looks great, what else can you ask for?

@Bobbybmw22, MRR GT1 19x8.5, lip size 1 3/4" front, and 19x9.5 lip size 2 3/4" rear. http://www.mrrwheels.com/gt1.html great wheels for the dollars.

diplomat128 · 05-06-2013, 09:30 PM

How much are the BMW Performance springs anyways? And how much do they lower the car by? The Tein springs I bought should lower it by 1.4" F and 0.6" R which is pretty much what I'm looking for. Actually I'm looking for 0.0"R lol

diplomat128 · 05-06-2013, 09:32 PM

Shit! Numbnuts! I just realized your car is a 328i! 328i's don't have the reverse rake problem! Just like my neighbour doesn't have that problem! Your car is just lower with a front bias (good rake) because of the perches lol

project335i · 05-06-2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid For Life

Get legit coils, screw all these lowering spring and perch crap. Do it right once, never worry about it again. /Thread

Truth !

TC Kline Racing · 05-07-2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid For Life

Get legit coils, screw all these lowering spring and perch crap. Do it right once, never worry about it again. /Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by project335i

Truth !

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diplomat128 Private 5 Rep 65 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Montreal, QC / Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	F* Reverse Rake !!!!!!1one! I just installed my AluFelgen CSL reps and my 335i e92 ZSP looks like it's doing a freaking WHEELIE. My neighbour has an e92 328i with normal non-sport suspension and his car looks nice and even (same gap front and rear). Is there something wrong with my car? BTW: They are 19x9.5 ET35 and they are rubbing the way my car is right now when I hit dips in the road. I just received Tein S-Tech springs in the mail and I'm wondering if I should install them or not (F 1.4", R0.6") with the stock dampers. I'm actually debating if I should install JUST the front. Is there like a suspension spacer I can install to raise the back a bit? What should I do? I really don't want to spend 1000$ on the suspension right now. Thanks! __________________ 2009 BMW 335i e92** --- Black Sapphire Metallic / Coral Red Dakota / iDrive / Sport Package / Comfort Access
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diplomat128 Private 5 Rep 65 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Montreal, QC / Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	Honestly I don't even think the perches are gonna be enough. It needs at least a 1" drop in the front. In the back no drop is needed... __________________ 2009 BMW 335i e92 --- Black Sapphire Metallic / Coral Red Dakota / iDrive / Sport Package / Comfort Access
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diplomat128 Private 5 Rep 65 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Montreal, QC / Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	Is so strange though my neighbours 328i non sport doesnt have this stupid reverse rake. FYI tires are 265/30/19 in the back w/ et35 offset 9.5" wheels. I'm really considering installing the front springs only __________________ 2009 BMW 335i e92 --- Black Sapphire Metallic / Coral Red Dakota / iDrive / Sport Package / Comfort Access
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therealm3 Lieutenant Colonel 630 Rep 1,649 Posts Drives: F30 340 MSport Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: CA, USA iTrader: (7)	Or, you could drop the front a bit, for free, very easily. I was going to do a separate thread on this with what I did to my car but here is the cliff notes version: If you look at the strut there is a tab that sets how far down it is allowed to sit in the hub/carrier. Well if you look at the way the tab is shaped, the bottom and top parts are not physically attached to the strut body, only the middle 1/2 to 2/3 is welded. So I jacked the car up, supported the hub with my jack, undid the nut/bolt combo that squeezes the strut, and cut the tab straight across to the first part that is welded. It was very easy to do as the metal is kind of soft compared to other things on the car. then put my jack under the hub/carrier where the tie rod bolts and slowly started jacking upwards. this pushed the strut tube down and the hub up till it hit the "new" stopping point. Tighten the nut/bolt, and repeat on the other side. Measured wheel gap before and after and the car dropped a bit more than 3/8". it doesn't sound like much, but visually it makes a big difference on a sport package car. In reading through the thread for the Supreme perches this is about the same drop they are getting without all the work or the loss of suspension travel. I have 1500 miles like this with 0 issues. Well worth it. Last edited by therealm3; 05-06-2013 at 03:27 PM..
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diplomat128 Private 5 Rep 65 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Montreal, QC / Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	How much are the BMW Performance springs anyways? And how much do they lower the car by? The Tein springs I bought should lower it by 1.4" F and 0.6" R which is pretty much what I'm looking for. Actually I'm looking for 0.0"R lol __________________ 2009 BMW 335i e92 --- Black Sapphire Metallic / Coral Red Dakota / iDrive / Sport Package / Comfort Access
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diplomat128 Private 5 Rep 65 Posts Drives: BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Montreal, QC / Sydney, NSW iTrader: (0)	Shit! Numbnuts! I just realized your car is a 328i! 328i's don't have the reverse rake problem! Just like my neighbour doesn't have that problem! Your car is just lower with a front bias (good rake) because of the perches lol __________________ 2009 BMW 335i e92 --- Black Sapphire Metallic / Coral Red Dakota / iDrive / Sport Package / Comfort Access
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