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What are e90 owner's thoughts on the f30?
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12-20-2012, 08:30 PM | #67 |
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12-20-2012, 09:38 PM | #68 | |
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PS. I like the F30, and am sure the negative "reviews" are exaggerated, however, your last line killed your "honest" positive review... Last edited by DFW_M; 12-20-2012 at 09:47 PM.. |
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12-20-2012, 09:45 PM | #69 | |
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Hmmm, no thanks. My E90 325 with the ZSP was $32k... |
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12-20-2012, 09:52 PM | #70 | |
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I paid $38k for a lowly 4 cylinder. One that happens to trap at 100mph stock. You can keep your 325, I know it sounds great though!
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12-20-2012, 09:53 PM | #71 | |
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Well, since I never drove the 335is, my last comment still makes sense. And to be fair, there is no F30 equivalent of the 335is, yet, so it's not comparing apples to apples. |
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12-21-2012, 12:04 AM | #73 |
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OP, save your money, keep your current car, no need to switch over if you dont need to.
I would wait for the M2 to come out Your patience will pay off. Unless you have money to spare, why not, but otherwise, the F30 is just another good car from BMW.
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12-21-2012, 12:19 AM | #74 |
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I sold my e90 335 for the f30 335. Although the e90 steering was heavy, it wasn't tight. I didn't like how it was a bit wobbly going on high speed bends. The f30 steering is lighter but don't mistake that for handling. Handling is super sharp, almost as sharp as the e92m3 with servo. I like how the f30 steering gives you resistance when going over high speed bends. Also the f30 has less body roll than the e90 even though it sits a bit higher.
I can see why some people said what they said about the f30. I felt the same way when I got base model 328i loaners from he dealer. They didn't have sport package and came with 17s. Try driving the sport or msport and u may feel a little different. F30'msport in sport mode the steering feels almost as firm as my e92m3 on Normal settings. |
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12-21-2012, 07:25 AM | #76 | |
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I did not keep my 325, although, it was a great car, priced right. |
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12-21-2012, 07:54 AM | #77 | |
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For decades now, there has not been much value proposition when comparing a loaded Accord or FILL IN CAR here against a base 3 series. This is not a new debate just because of the F30. I find better value for money now actually. Slightly bigger car with a usable back seat, 35mpg average, a lot more standard features, 270'ish HP at the crank, 5.4 to 60/100 mph trap at 14.0. BEFORE, a V-6 Accord would be bigger, better optioned, better MPG and be faster than the 328. So why throw the Accord debate at the F30 NOW without lobbying the same concerns dating back to the start of the 3.
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12-21-2012, 08:20 AM | #78 | |
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12-21-2012, 08:41 AM | #79 | |
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The adjustable suspension...I heard it was not worth it, I am doing aftermarket springs and likely adjustable Koni's or something. Should I have gotten cold weather so I can heat the backseat for the passengers I almost never carry? Navigation? I am not a fan of most OEM nav setups, I like my Garmin's. Granted $550 for metallic paint in 2013 is a bit ridiculous. The M-Sport package is not cheap either, but when compared to the other lines, it's worth it. The only thing I feel I missed out on are the Xenons. When a fairly priced retro-fit comes around, I will likely upgrade. When you look at the standard features on the BMW site, the car really has a lot of little upgrades. THe ambient lighting in the interior, the door handles with LEDs, the garage link, the auto dimming mirrors, power folding mirrors...it's pretty well equipped. I have different priorities. I optioned this car the way I wanted, it's got most of the real performance you can get in a 328, lightest aside for the sunroof(with a black headliner, I felt it was needed). The F30 gets crap for being far from an enthusiasts car, my 6mt, summer tired, low optioned M-Sport in a classic color does a good job of presenting a counter. http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...and_specs.aspx
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12-21-2012, 09:05 AM | #80 |
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The F30 is a step towards more broader and mainstream crowd, since it is not as sporty as the previous generation. It got bigger, softer and more economical and lost a lot of what made BMW's great in the process. The 2 series is coming out soon and it should be closer to what the 3 was in the past.
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12-21-2012, 09:23 AM | #81 |
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I test drove a 2012 3series and liked is power but hate bodysytle, so i bought a 2010 328i and love it so far. Plus i got great deal on it...
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12-21-2012, 09:29 AM | #82 | |
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12-21-2012, 09:35 AM | #83 | |
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If you read all of mine, you would see my MSRP was under $44k, I think it was $43,450 to be exact. MID $40's is 45k+. I also stated that I do not think that is great value, I got mine for $38k and I feel like at THAT amount of money the performance/value/money equation is within reason. I see there are tons of options for the F30. They do not appeal to me. I could have a fully loaded no line with $8k in options, would that make it a better car-just so it could be loaded with TECH items? But this is about the E90 vs F30. When you factor in MSRP, features now standard, the price of the F30 has not inflated much at all compared to the E90. On the other forum someone did the homework of MSRPs dating back to the E46 adjusted for inflation and the F30 is actually not a jump at all(or less than $1000 but including more standard equipment).
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On a load bearing Super Flo dyno my car put down 240ftlbs to the wheels and 260 with the catback. Dynojets are showing 240-260ft lbs to the wheels stock. That is quite impressive. I have also seen a RACE gas stage 1 BMS dyno show over 300ftlbs to the wheels. Fact is, NA 6 cylinder BMW's need a bolt on blower/turbo kit for $5-15k to make tq that high.
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12-21-2012, 10:36 AM | #87 |
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Personally if I had to choose on looks alone, the F30 is the sure winner IMO.
The interior is years ahead as it should be. Mind you, that non-integrated screen is a major eye sore. It was like it was an after thought. The exterior is also nicer for the most part, but just marginally. The front hood is odd looking as many have mentioned but the rest of the car is just about right. I own an LCI e90 right now and I would definately go to the F30 if the money made sense. The problem I'm having is I cannot justify spending another 50K on a car that for the most part hasn't been drastically changed on the exterior. |
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12-21-2012, 10:45 AM | #88 |
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WAAAYYYY more unreliable. Owned and experienced plenty FI vehicles and NA vehicles. I do not want to own another turbo vehicle for a long time, specially a German made one. A good 6 cylinder will deliver more power while still achieving very good fuel economy and will be a lot more reliable and durable than a turbo four. Honda and Toyota make V6's in the mainstream vehicles (Accord and Camry) that are faster than the F30 328i, cost less to produce, maintain and will likely outlast any German turbo four (non-diesel) currently on the market.
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