Unable to shift into 2nd pass 6k rpm.

Nack54 · 09-21-2012, 08:43 PM

I'm having a situation where I'm unable to shift into second at 6k+ rpm from a dead stop. It has happen to me on several occasion and it's very frustrating. I've tried searching and went through several pages with no avail. Has this happen to anyone? Is there a solution or has my syncro's gone bad. I usually drive spiritly and on occasion would floor it from the light. I rarely get to drive the car. Put 10k on the cars in 2yrs, and any solution would be great. Im Jb4+dci

Gossypiboma · 09-21-2012, 09:38 PM

I have the same issue with my 08' 335i E92. If I try and shift hard at high rpm's it wont go into gear and just grinds. Only 25K miles on my car too.

M3_Dylan · 09-21-2012, 09:41 PM

AT or MT?

Nack54 · 09-21-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBoosting

I have the same issue with my 08' 335i E92. If I try and shift hard at high rpm's it wont go into gear and just grinds. Only 25K miles on my car too.

I have an 08 with 38k. It's annoying when you get someone to bite and then run them and have the problem come up.

Nack54 · 09-21-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spoiledxjoker

AT or MT?

Mt

3-Serious · 09-22-2012, 07:08 AM

1-2 second is a bitch in these cars, I have to shift super slow for it to work.

JamesM3M5 · 09-22-2012, 10:46 AM

I find I can't even wind out 1st gear if I expect to have any traction for 2nd anyway. I short shift into 2nd.

Nack54 · 09-22-2012, 11:18 AM

The 1-2 shift is horrible. For it to engage I have to short shift at 5500rpm for it to go into second. I'm thinking of doing a tranny flush and the clutch fluid.

nitehawk · 09-22-2012, 01:18 PM

It happens to me on occasion too...the shifter pops sideways out of first b4 I can blink. Is this what you guys feel or actual gear grind?

I think its due to excess twist in the tranny/engine mounts, especially when tuned with tons of torque. I think upgrading to UUC transmission mounts + 335is passenger side engine might mitigate the issue. I can't comment on the increased harshness tho, Dzenno would be a good person to ask on the other forum...he has switched to these mounts

JamesM3M5 · 09-22-2012, 01:25 PM

I've seen nothing but failures with RE, UUC, whatever mounts - urethane or rubber, they both fail, some sooner than others, but they all suck. Go with OEM E46 M3 trans mounts. Cheaper, too.

nitehawk · 09-22-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesM3M5

I've seen nothing but failures with RE, UUC, whatever mounts - urethane or rubber, they both fail, some sooner than others, but they all suck. Go with OEM E46 M3 trans mounts. Cheaper, too.

Interesting, they are compatible with the E9X platform?

Nack54 · 09-22-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitehawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesM3M5

I've seen nothing but failures with RE, UUC, whatever mounts - urethane or rubber, they both fail, some sooner than others, but they all suck. Go with OEM E46 M3 trans mounts. Cheaper, too.

Interesting, they are compatible with the E9X platform?

+1 anything that can help shifting from 1st-2nd.

Ænema · 09-22-2012, 01:44 PM

1-2 shift is an asshole. I have to either short shift of shift sloooooooooowly

3-Serious · 09-22-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ænema

1-2 shift is an asshole. I have to either short shift of shift sloooooooooowly

DefactoM6 · 09-22-2012, 03:23 PM

I have the same problem, can't stand it. Switched to redline, didn't really help at all. I'll have to try the e46 M3 mounts+IS engine mount...

Ferruccio · 09-22-2012, 06:07 PM

I have the same problem. I have to shift at a lower RPM to get it into gear under without grinding. People didn't believe me and insisted that I am not driving manual right. But, I can do it in the 540i just fine... :@

Iamstig335 · 09-23-2012, 08:48 AM

Sorry but someone had to say the obvious -> AT FTW

Just messing I kid I kid

Joshboody · 09-23-2012, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesM3M5

I've seen nothing but failures with RE, UUC, whatever mounts - urethane or rubber, they both fail, some sooner than others, but they all suck. Go with OEM E46 M3 trans mounts. Cheaper, too.

great, just purchased the black ones... we'll see how they do. My 1to2 isn't so bad, but there's definitely more concentration involved. The tranny mounts are for the occational drivetrain "bang" when shifting fast/hard. Not sure what it is exactly, but thought i'd try some added stiffness.

Sniz · 09-23-2012, 04:50 PM

I ripped a set of Red UUC trans mounts in half the first day I installed a gt35r.....comical.

I'm now running AKG mounts and they work great and are holding up. My urethane engine mount however is crumbling in front of my eyes from excessive heat from the exaust manifold......ugh.

Chrisred · 09-23-2012, 05:18 PM

What can we do for xi models. They have different mounts??? I can't find anything out there.....that 1-2 gear is killing me on drag strip.

Sniz · 09-23-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisred

What can we do for xi models. They have different mounts??? I can't find anything out there.....that 1-2 gear is killing me on drag strip.

when I had my e92 I found a 20oz+ shift knob from UUC really helped in ripping it through that 1-2 shift.

also look into a Jaffster Delrin race knob.....amazing piece and adds to the leverage.

Gossypiboma · 09-23-2012, 08:01 PM

A shift knob isn't going to fix the issue at hand. I have the same issue as the OP and I agree it can possibly be fixed by more solid tranny/motor mounts. Will that fix it idk, that needs to be tried out by someone who can delineate between a sucky transmission and mount movement.

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JamesM3M5 Some dude 91 Rep 1,780 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	I find I can't even wind out 1st gear if I expect to have any traction for 2nd anyway. I short shift into 2nd. __________________ RRT E92 335i/6MT with stuff and things
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Nack54 Private First Class 4 Rep 194 Posts Drives: E92 coupe Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Phila iTrader: (0)	The 1-2 shift is horrible. For it to engage I have to short shift at 5500rpm for it to go into second. I'm thinking of doing a tranny flush and the clutch fluid.
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nitehawk Lieutenant Colonel 102 Rep 1,903 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6MT Join Date: May 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (15) Garage List E92 BMW 335i [9.00] E92 BMW 335i \| Retired [10.00]	It happens to me on occasion too...the shifter pops sideways out of first b4 I can blink. Is this what you guys feel or actual gear grind? I think its due to excess twist in the tranny/engine mounts, especially when tuned with tons of torque. I think upgrading to UUC transmission mounts + 335is passenger side engine might mitigate the issue. I can't comment on the increased harshness tho, Dzenno would be a good person to ask on the other forum...he has switched to these mounts
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JamesM3M5 Some dude 91 Rep 1,780 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	I've seen nothing but failures with RE, UUC, whatever mounts - urethane or rubber, they both fail, some sooner than others, but they all suck. Go with OEM E46 M3 trans mounts. Cheaper, too. __________________ RRT E92 335i/6MT with stuff and things
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Ænema Captain 14 Rep 961 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Arizona Bay iTrader: (0)	1-2 shift is an asshole. I have to either short shift of shift sloooooooooowly
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DefactoM6 Sees the world the way it could be 49 Rep 761 Posts Drives: '88 M6, '02 Z8, '09 E92 335i Join Date: May 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (11)	I have the same problem, can't stand it. Switched to redline, didn't really help at all. I'll have to try the e46 M3 mounts+IS engine mount... __________________
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Ferruccio First Lieutenant 40 Rep 373 Posts Drives: 2010 335i Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (1)	I have the same problem. I have to shift at a lower RPM to get it into gear under without grinding. People didn't believe me and insisted that I am not driving manual right. But, I can do it in the 540i just fine... :@
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Sniz Lieutenant General 654 Rep 10,587 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	I ripped a set of Red UUC trans mounts in half the first day I installed a gt35r.....comical. I'm now running AKG mounts and they work great and are holding up. My urethane engine mount however is crumbling in front of my eyes from excessive heat from the exaust manifold......ugh. __________________
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Chrisred Captain 63 Rep 788 Posts Drives: BMW 335xi coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Montreal, Canada iTrader: (0)	What can we do for xi models. They have different mounts??? I can't find anything out there.....that 1-2 gear is killing me on drag strip. __________________ JB4 Trebila tuned cp-e IC AMS exhaust BMS DCI AR DP's METH RB TURBO 19" VMR VB3 Stoptech BBK TC KLINE VORSHLAG SPEC STG 3 OSS design
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Gossypiboma Major 542 Rep 1,195 Posts Drives: 13' M3 6MT 18' M3 CS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The John iTrader: (8)	A shift knob isn't going to fix the issue at hand. I have the same issue as the OP and I agree it can possibly be fixed by more solid tranny/motor mounts. Will that fix it idk, that needs to be tried out by someone who can delineate between a sucky transmission and mount movement.
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