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      12-14-2008, 01:42 PM   #1
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Results From My Trip to Sacramento Raceway Park

Hey Guys, I meant to post this yesterday, but didn’t get back from my 800 mile trip to Sacramento till midnight. I had wanted to go to the Famoso event this weekend, but they were booked out at only 10 cars. Besides it was $258 per car! Sacramento had a 30-40% chance of rain in the forecast, and I was just crossing my fingers that the track day wouldn’t get cancelled after that long drive up there.

I am so glad I made it to Sacramento Raceway. It is a beautiful place. The lines are short, and everyone is nice up there from the front booth to the lane workers. Even all the car buffs would come over (Including Shiv), and talk cars. In fact, if you recall in my posts, I had this trip planned a couple of weeks ago. I just found out a couple of days ago that Shiv and KTDW were possibly going to be out there testing. Soon as I saw the white 135I, I went out hunting for Shiv. I was going to demand for him to inspect my car to his satisfaction. When I finally found him, I was rather astonished how non-confrontational he was. He was very pleasant, and in fact, seemed to dismiss the whole nitrous thing as water under the bridge. Later on, him and KTDW came by, and I offered for them to look at the car. They just kind of looked under the hood, had me pull my air filter element, looked in the wheel wells, etc. But all in all, they just seemed to be there not for their suspicion, but rather as fellow car enthusiasts having fun tuning their car, and trying different things.

I again made several passes above 117.00 mph with my best being a 11.991 @117.524 mph. I never did say it before, but this car is something special. To see this car running with tune only (+fuel/tires), getting these kind of exceptional numbers is astonishing. I believe KTDW set his best ET also. His mph might have been down a little from his previous tests of (117.609), but that may have been a result of the terrible 60’ time (2.228) he had on that higher mph run on that particular day. We even got the opportunity to run side by side, but his run was incomplete. Either way, to see my car on the same day turning numbers right there with a lighter 135I with intercooler, downpipes, intake, and straight exhaust is pretty darn impressive indeed. My trap was only .085mph slower. Not bad for a tune only car!

The track really started to deteriorate in the latter part of the test and tune. Both Shiv and I really started getting some inconsistent runs. Here is some food for thought though. Take a look at the 3 cars on drag times that ran in the 11’s. The 60’ times were as follows: 1.772/1.661/1.664 seconds. Can you imagine if I even did as good as the worst one in that short list? (1.772 sec). The car would have run a 11.791 with even that "decent" 60’ time.

As I was driving home, I realized what an awesome car it is that we have. On the exact same 11.99 ET race map that I have been driving around with for a couple of weeks now, the car averaged 26.7mpg for the first 150 miles (with my GF driving). We were going about 80mph. Then on cruise control at 90mph the instantaneous seemed to settle around 25mpg, and around 100mph it was anywhere between 20-23.5mpg. So to reiterate, this is not some radical non-civilized race map, but rather one that seems to be running great in my car with 91-93 octane also. When I looked at some of the cars that I beat on the track with their loud exhaust, etc…it is amazing how civilized and refined our cars are when cruising there 800 miles to/from the track also. The fact that I have won about 15 races in a row now, only adds to the enjoyment, LOL.

Let me add that after I made my 11.99 run, Shiv and KTDW both came up to congratulate me. And when they went home before me, the personally came over to say good bye. Again, another confirmation that even though the tuning wars can get a bit vicious at times, the people behind them are generally good-hearted, well meaning people trying to do their jobs the best that they can.
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Your car is a freak!! Nice times!
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Let me add that after I made my 11.99 run, Shiv and KTDW both came up to congratulate me. And when they went home before me, the personally came over to say good bye. Again, another confirmation that even though the tuning wars can get a bit vicious at times, the people behind them are generally good-hearted, well meaning people trying to do their jobs the best that they can.
People are just different, and more often than not to the negative, behind computer screens.
Great job Hotrod.
Now if Shiv would rescind his accusations, that would be cool and the right thing to do.
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Awesome Awesome Awesome.
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Here is my steady state mpg pictures, and some other ones from the track
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Hotrod...you're a great ambassador for the N54 tuning community, keep up the good work and thanks for this post
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Congrats Warren! Awesome times and look like you had a great day.

This week has brought awesome news for the JB3 and N54!
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im curious to see what the coupe runs

the sedan is pre29.2 and the coupe is 29.2 correct warren?
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OMG...your car is just freaky fast!!! Congrats, hotrod182 on some fantastic numbers!!!
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nice run !!
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WOW! awesome times man. That is sick. JB3 FTW! it has done some serious improvement for the N54. Cant wait to try that race map on some race gas!
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hey out of curiosity what rubber were you using at the track?
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hey out of curiosity what rubber were you using at the track?
Half the runs were done on the tires I drive around on (Nitto NT255R), and the others were done on ET streets. Both 17'. The fronts were rather heavy 19" M6 Replicas with Generals.

The coupe is pre 29.2, thank goodness. I will try and do testing on it in the near future.
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congrats on the 11sec pass with just tune! were you using race gas and DR's? man, what a strong car. i dont remember, auto or MT?

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ps. i feel dumb for doubting you and apologies for that. enjoy your day.
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congrats on the 11sec pass with just tune! were you using race gas and DR's? man, what a strong car. i dont remember, auto or MT?

teri

ps. i feel dumb for doubting you and apologies for that. enjoy your day.
No problem. Each time I have gone, I have used better gas. I started with 76 100 octane pump gas on the first trip. The last trip to Famosa I used Sunoco 104, and then this time VP MS109.

So here are the results of yesterdays runs. Luckily my GF got most of them either on picture or videos. Note how the 135i and 335i runs are clustered together for the most part!

Sacramento Raceway Park 12/13/08 Results

11.463 @ 129.59 mph Blue GTO
10.880 @ 128.15 mph Yellow 70’s Mustang
11.873 @ 125.01 mph Yellow C6 Z06
11.627 @ 124.01 mph Yellow C6 Z06
11.699 @ 124.47 mph Yellow C6 Z06
10.819 @ 123.47 mph White Camaro SS
11.150 @ 123.40 mph Silver C6 Corvette
11.770 @ 123.37 mph Yellow C6 Z06
11.101 @ 123.16 mph Silver C6 Corvette
11.685 @ 122.95 mph Yellow C6 Z06
11.140 @ 119.30 mph Red Dodge Dart
12.825 @ 118.14 mph Silver Audi S4
11.991 @ 117.52 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.076 @ 117.30 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.144 @ 117.19 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.194 @ 116.84 mph White BMW Vishnu 135I
12.979 @ 116.80 mph White BMW Vishnu 135I
12.587 @ 116.72 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.145 @ 116.16 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.192 @ 116.14 mph White BMW Vishnu 135i
12.399 @ 115.94 mph White BMW Vishnu 135I
12.194 @ 115.84 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.189 @ 115.75 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.738 @ 115.31 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
13.124 @ 115.22 mph White BMW Vishnu 135I
13.599 @ 115.09 mph White BMW Vishnu 135I
12.491 @ 113.98 mph White Mitsubishi Eclipse
12.190 @ 113.89 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.450 @ 113.96 mph Red Audi S4 TT
12.675 @ 113.42 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
12.500 @ 112.60 mph Red Audi S4 TT
12.398 @ 112.44 mph Red Audi S4 TT
13.828 @ 112.30 mph Silver Audi S4 TT
13.704 @ 112.04 mph White BMW Vishnu 135I
12.211 @ 111.94 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
13.200 @ 106.58 mph Green Dodge Duster
13.038 @ 106.30 mph Green Dodge Duster
12.842 @ 105.97 mph Green Mustang GT
14.340 @ 105.97 mph Blk Mitsubishi EVO
13.122 @ 104.91 mph Green Mustang GT
12.831 @ 104.75 mph Blk Mitsubishi EVO
12.877 @ 104.59 mph Blk Mitsubishi EVO
13.159 @ 104.44 mph Blk Mitsubishi EVO
12.288 @ 103.90 mph White BMW 335I Sedan
13.266 @ 103.75 mph Gold Honda Civic Hatchback
13.583 @ 103.52 mph Gold Honda Civic Hatchback
14.035 @ 103.60 mph White 60’s Mustang
13.184 @ 102.23 mph Gold Honda Civic Hatchback
13.858 @ 100.44 mph Red Camaro Z28
14.100 @ 98.28 mph Blk Honda CRX
13.949 @ 98.20 mph White 60’s Mustang
15.475 @ 97.48 mph Blk Honda CRX
15.190 @ 94.90 mph Blk Acura Integra
15.078 @ 93.78mph Gray Honda Civic
15.025 @ 93.23 mph. Gray Honda Civic
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very nice Warren. How much boost were you peeking at ? I heard Shiv had some spark plug problems. He said he was getting misfires on the race gas map.
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Shiv just lost his respect from me, and i think he owes HOTROD some money.

That just shows what character this man has, he went and 800 miles to show Shiv his car, Shiv inspected it and then in front of his face ran those times.

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very nice Warren. How much boost were you peeking at ? I heard Shiv had some spark plug problems. He said he was getting misfires on the race gas map.
I don't have a gauge, but I am figuring about 15.5psi. The car runs great on 91 octane without any adjustments at all on this map.

I posted the results so you can analyze the results. You can tell which runs are clean, and which ones are not. When I have a great launch, I have always achieved a higher trap, which is what happened here again. But I have also heard if you do TERRIBLE on your 60's that can also increase your traps. KTDWs trap of 116.9 seems perfectly plausible when you factor in the much better 60' time. Only way to really compare is same cars, same track, same day.
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