[robc1976]

OP keep in mind if you go stage 3 Vargas you will need everything in my signature (suspension related) plus DSS axles....are you AT or MT? Stock suspension will not hold up to this power...bushings are to soft everywhere.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I wonder how those 8 second turbo supras are so much faster with single turbo kits since single turbo's have no potential...



Shouldn't people wait to vouche for a product after its been tested on customers cars and proven?

No offense to VTT but seriously?

OP

The next mod for your is CATTED Downpipes, with E85 Tune.

Still won't get to 450WHP without different turbo's though unless you run catless downpipes.

reason I am waiting on stage 3's....want to be sure they are good.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by robc1976

reason I am waiting on stage 3's....want to be sure they are good.

That's a respectable approach. If there is anything I learned over the past decade with cars, tuning, and modifications is let someone else be the guinea pig.

I agree that you will need some basic bolt ons to take advantage of the extra power, Brake Suspension, Clutch, to name a few. Tires, Wheels, LSD, and axles too.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

That's a respectable approach. If there is anything I learned over the past decade with cars, tuning, and modifications is let someone else be the guinea pig.

I agree that you will need some basic bolt ons to take advantage of the extra power, Brake Suspension, Clutch, to name a few. Tires, Wheels, LSD, and axles too.

totally agree!

[alexwhittemore]

Originally Posted by robc1976

totally agree!

Smart, although if everyone adopted that tactic, it'd break

[TXWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by bcg

I don't really want to run NOS and I don't want the car looking like it's got a bunch of mods because of gauges everywhere, I like the stock look, stealth power thing. Of course if someone knows what they're looking for, the exhaust will be a clue.

Doesn't sound like you're a big fan of nitrous, but you can make the kit pretty stealthy. It won't stand up to a lot of scrutiny, but on the street it works. I used to have a 99 LS1 Firebird with a 100 shot. The switches for arm, the remote bottle opener and the heater were in my center console. I had a 3000 rpm window switch that would keep it from spraying too early and a WOT switch for the button. If you have someone good do the install you can hide just about everything, even the line and solenoids. Just don't open the trunk. lol

[alexwhittemore]

Originally Posted by TXWatchGuy

Doesn't sound like you're a big fan of nitrous, but you can make the kit pretty stealthy. It won't stand up to a lot of scrutiny, but on the street it works. I used to have a 99 LS1 Firebird with a 100 shot. The switches for arm, the remote bottle opener and the heater were in my center console. I had a 3000 rpm window switch that would keep it from spraying too early and a WOT switch for the button. If you have someone good do the install you can hide just about everything, even the line and solenoids. Just don't open the trunk. lol

I don't think there's any way you're hiding a 10lb bottle, but you MIGHT squeeze two 5lb bottles or a few 2.5lb bottles in the sump under the trunk floor. 'course, that's multiple valve openers.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by robc1976

The way I am going

Nice

[JMARS]

All you need to get to 430whp is:
Dual cone intake (DCI) - $100
Vishnu Rev3 - $700
FlexFuel Sensor - $800
Total: $ 1,600.00

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by JMARS

All you need to get to 430whp is:
Dual cone intake (DCI) - $100
Vishnu Rev3 - $700
FlexFuel Sensor - $800
Total: $ 1,600.00

Incredibly unsafe setup

Temperatures will be off the charts. Not to mention how high iat will be at all times, much less on a track.

Would never recommend this.

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Incredibly unsafe setup

Temperatures will be off the charts. Not to mention how high iat will be at all times, much less on a track.

Would never recommend this.

Which temperatures will be off the charts?
Logs or it didn't happen.

[deltalima0]

Bang for your Buck

If you want to keep it simple just a tune and E85 if available, tune wise cant go wrong with JB4 or Cobb and both do well with E85.

If E85 is not available and with summer coming JB4 and meth the, meth integrates easy on the JB4 platform but go trunk meth kit route. Hotrod182 did tons with just a tune and meth. You can look up his vids on youtube amazing imo.

Look for 2nd hand JB4 g5's or Cobb AP's, DP's and inter coolers. Cobb is capable of meth just more work.

Meth kit I do not recommend 2nd hand just my opinion.

Oh grab some DCI's they are right around 100 bucks.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Which temperatures will be off the charts?
Logs or it didn't happen.

take a look at this quick log and look at the timing.

and if you dont think that running that high of boost on effectively very high octane from e85 (which burns hotter than lower octane) with a DCI which will increase IAT COMBINED with no FMIC or water/meth for cooling is a bad idea, then good luck to you.

i have seen IAT values on my car on the track WITH a FMIC in reasonable weather that makes me nervous, much less running e85, a tune boosting to 19+ PSI in the midrange and zero cooling mods.

JMO. Better safe than sorry.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=44

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

take a look at this quick log and look at the timing.

and if you dont think that running that high of boost on effectively very high octane from e85 (which burns hotter than lower octane) with a DCI which will increase IAT COMBINED with no FMIC or water/meth for cooling is a bad idea, then good luck to you.

i have seen IAT values on my car on the track WITH a FMIC in reasonable weather that makes me nervous, much less running e85, a tune boosting to 19+ PSI in the midrange and zero cooling mods.

JMO. Better safe than sorry.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=44

Actually, e85 runs cooler than pump gas.

So, did you mean IATs, Coolant temps, oil temps or something else?

He didn't say anything about tracking his car. Sure, tracking the car at 19+ psi wouldn't work out.

[triggz]

Your mods should be:

1. Tune
2. DCI
3. LSD
4. M3 Subframe Bushings
5. Chargepipe
6. Downpipes
7. Sticky Tires
8. Meth
9. Intercooler


In that order if you're concerned with power. If it was me and I could go back in time I would've done suspension mods first and then work on power mods. Suspension/Brakes/Tires should be priority if you're going to mod your car for more power.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by triggz

Suspension/Brakes/Tires should be priority if you're going to mod your car for more power.

VERY true!

[VNeBLOB42]

@bcg



nuffsaid

[iDriveSlo]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I wonder how those 8 second turbo supras are so much faster with single turbo kits since single turbo's have no potential...



Shouldn't people wait to vouche for a product after its been tested on customers cars and proven?

No offense to VTT but seriously?

OP

The next mod for your is CATTED Downpipes, with E85 Tune.

Still won't get to 450WHP without different turbo's though unless you run catless downpipes.

Because they have 20 years of development behind them, and many of the vendors don't spew as much bs and misinformation as the vishnu crowd does. Someday that will probably be the real way to go to make insane numbers on the n54, but right now with the two choices we have. One kit is starting to emerge as clearly the better product, offering more power, better spool, and a lower cost. Not to mention it isn't tied to proprietary software for tuning.

[bcg]

Originally Posted by triggz

Your mods should be:

1. Tune
2. DCI
3. LSD
4. M3 Subframe Bushings
5. Chargepipe
6. Downpipes
7. Sticky Tires
8. Meth
9. Intercooler


In that order if you're concerned with power. If it was me and I could go back in time I would've done suspension mods first and then work on power mods. Suspension/Brakes/Tires should be priority if you're going to mod your car for more power.

But suspension mods, while clearly more practical, aren't nearly as much fun as power mods.

I'm curious why you put Intercooler at the end? I was thinking it should go early to support the additional power.

I've done JB4 Tune, BMS DCI and got a set of Michelin PSS put on last week. Need to get the doughnut from Bavarian now (another of those boring practical mods). I do like these PSS a whole lot more than the stock run flats, they're substantially quieter, smoother and a lot harder to break loose.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by bcg

But suspension mods, while clearly more practical, aren't nearly as much fun as power mods.

I'm curious why you put Intercooler at the end? I was thinking it should go early to support the additional power.

I've done JB4 Tune, BMS DCI and got a set of Michelin PSS put on last week. Need to get the doughnut from Bavarian now (another of those boring practical mods). I do like these PSS a whole lot more than the stock run flats, they're substantially quieter, smoother and a lot harder to break loose.

when he using meth your IAT go down so a FMIC is not need as much....I agree though....FMIC would bear 1st in my list.