Street/Track Tire Set Help

Youngbp04 · 03-23-2013, 05:50 PM

I have finally decided to make the jumpt to a much more agressive tire set up. I currently am still running my winter tires on the stock OEM M-Package 18" wheels that came on my 2010 e90 335i. The factory tires were actually stolen out of my shed when I was moving, and I need to get these winter tires off so it is time to order a new set.

I am going to keep my stock 18" wheels for this set of tires, as I do not foresee them lasting for an extended period of time given my driving style and intent to track my car this summer. I think I have narrowed my decision down to one of three sets:

1) Yokohama ADVAN A048
2) Toyo Proxes R888
3) Michelin Sport Cup

What are your thoughts? What tires would you go with out of the bunch, or is there another set you would prefer?

What would be the most aggressive ("meatiest") size I could go with? I know the stock set is 225/40 up front and 255/35 out back. Ultimately, I will be putting spacers to make it as flush as possible, but will have to wait to measure after the tires are mounted. Unless, someone has an idea of what sizes would work best together.

Thanks again for any input! I really value the opinion of this forum and feel like its members are top notch. Willing to help others out and not simply push the "there is a search button, use it" philosophy (though sometimes it is warranted

)

Thanks again for any help!

Youngbp04 · 03-24-2013, 01:57 PM

Bump, cars in the shop and would like to get tires ordered ASAP

abhishriv · 03-24-2013, 02:39 PM

i think the general consensus is PSS. you would be fine with AD08 as well. but the r888 wouldnt be all that great to have if it rains. i am also looking for a set which would be good for daily and maybe 2 -3 track days this summer. im going to be going with pss with 245/35/19 up front and 275/30/19 in the rear.

Youngbp04 · 03-24-2013, 06:02 PM

The PSS meaning the pilot super sport? Or did you mean the sport cup? I am looking more for an R compound tire I think. I really am not too worried about rain given my close proximity to work.

What size do you think I would be able to run? 235/40 and 265/35? Do you think I would still need a spacer?

Thanks again!

abhishriv · 03-25-2013, 08:52 AM

I mean the pilot super sport. I haven't looked too much into the pilot sport cup but ppl have been raving about the r888 and how sticky they are. Just be prepared to change them out more often. With the stock 18s you should be good with 235 and 265. Don't think you'll need spacers.

Youngbp04 · 03-25-2013, 02:25 PM

Perfect, Thanks! I think I have decided on the R888. 235/40ZR18 for the fronts and 265/35ZR18 for the back. To confirm, this should fit on the 193M wheels that are 18x8" ET34 upfront and 18x8.5" ET37 out back, with no issue and rubbing?

Thanks again!

Mavus · 03-25-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngbp04

Perfect, Thanks! I think I have decided on the R888. 235/40ZR18 for the fronts and 265/35ZR18 for the back. To confirm, this should fit on the 193M wheels that are 18x8" ET34 upfront and 18x8.5" ET37 out back, with no issue and rubbing?

Thanks again!

I would not mount 265 on 8.5, check wheel width requirement for the tire.

Youngbp04 · 03-25-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

I would not mount 265 on 8.5, check wheel width requirement for the tire.

Hmmm you are right. Looks like it recommends 9". Also looks like tireracks specs for the 235/40ZR18 are off. Says that the measure rim width is 9.5" though the recomended rim width is only 8"-8.5".

Looks like the 245/40ZR18 would also fit on the 8" front rim. Would that not be work?

Mavus · 03-25-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngbp04

Hmmm you are right. Looks like it recommends 9". Also looks like tireracks specs for the 235/40ZR18 are off. Says that the measure rim width is 9.5" though the recomended rim width is only 8"-8.5".

Looks like the 245/40ZR18 would also fit on the 8" front rim. Would that not be work?

The max tire width I'd mount on 8" is 235 and 255 on 8.5. Keep in mind that some summer tires like PSS, RE-11 etc. are very wide.

Youngbp04 · 03-25-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

The max tire width I'd mount on 8" is 235 and 255 on 8.5. Keep in mind that some summer tires like PSS, RE-11 etc. are very wide.

That is really helpful. Out of curiosity, what are you running? Do you have any experience with R-compound tires? It is tough to find people who have actually run with them.

Mavus · 03-25-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngbp04

That is really helpful. Out of curiosity, what are you running? Do you have any experience with R-compound tires? It is tough to find people who have actually run with them.

I run square 9.5" 17 w/Re-11 255/40

Youngbp04 · 03-25-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

I run square 9.5" 17 w/Re-11 255/40

Do you like the RE-11? Would you ever consider going to a R compound tire, or are you 100% satisfied with the RE-11?

Mavus · 03-25-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngbp04

Do you like the RE-11? Would you ever consider going to a R compound tire, or are you 100% satisfied with the RE-11?

Unless you pushed the limits on summer tires and are experienced driver I think they are not needed. R-compound is a different ball game and you need to re-learn how the car behaves. This is what I was told by guys that tried them. They said that the break-away point comes much faster than on PSS and similar rubber. One guy had BFG R1 I believe. Also you have to be extremely careful in rain.

I drove w/PS2 last season and felt that I needed a bit more grip. I will try new RE-11A next month with the new LSD. I also had staggered set-up last year and am looking fwd to additional grip in the front. I drove several days in rain and PS2 was excellent. Guys w/R-compound couldn't drive.

VMRWheels · 03-25-2013, 04:24 PM

My vote is for the RE-11. That tire is awesome!

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Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

I would not mount 265 on 8.5, check wheel width requirement for the tire.

+1

dachtor · 03-26-2013, 12:31 PM

In my experience, the Michelin Super Sports are the best option. R Compound like handling, with daily driving comfort and pretty decent life span. I run them on all my cars and they all see extensive track use. I run a square setup in 255/35/18's for track use in my 335is.

Youngbp04 · 03-28-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dachtor

In my experience, the Michelin Super Sports are the best option. R Compound like handling, with daily driving comfort and pretty decent life span. I run them on all my cars and they all see extensive track use. I run a square setup in 255/35/18's for track use in my 335is.

What wheels are you running with that set up?

I am still struggling with my decision. Now I am worried that I am going to rub the strut with the 235/40 up front with any of my options.

dachtor · 04-08-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Youngbp04

What wheels are you running with that set up?

I am still struggling with my decision. Now I am worried that I am going to rub the strut with the 235/40 up front with any of my options.

Sorry for the late response. I have Beyern spartan wheels in 18x8.5.

BMWNTHZST · 05-06-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dachtor

In my experience, the Michelin Super Sports are the best option. R Compound like handling, with daily driving comfort and pretty decent life span. I run them on all my cars and they all see extensive track use. I run a square setup in 255/35/18's for track use in my 335is.

What offset (ET) are you running. I seriously thinking of this set up too!

dachtor · 05-07-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWNTHZST

What offset (ET) are you running. I seriously thinking of this set up too!

18x8.5 with 40mm offset.

BMWNTHZST · 05-07-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dachtor

18x8.5 with 40mm offset.

Is the 335is in your garage section up to date? I was looking at the flushness of your wheels in there. They look nice!

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Youngbp04 Private First Class 15 Rep 161 Posts Drives: 2015 Mineral Grey M3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	The PSS meaning the pilot super sport? Or did you mean the sport cup? I am looking more for an R compound tire I think. I really am not too worried about rain given my close proximity to work. What size do you think I would be able to run? 235/40 and 265/35? Do you think I would still need a spacer? Thanks again!
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abhishriv Major 100 Rep 1,384 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe (Space grey) Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I mean the pilot super sport. I haven't looked too much into the pilot sport cup but ppl have been raving about the r888 and how sticky they are. Just be prepared to change them out more often. With the stock 18s you should be good with 235 and 265. Don't think you'll need spacers.
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Youngbp04 Private First Class 15 Rep 161 Posts Drives: 2015 Mineral Grey M3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	Perfect, Thanks! I think I have decided on the R888. 235/40ZR18 for the fronts and 265/35ZR18 for the back. To confirm, this should fit on the 193M wheels that are 18x8" ET34 upfront and 18x8.5" ET37 out back, with no issue and rubbing? Thanks again!
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