JB + ---> question

EDubs · 03-29-2011, 08:00 PM

I have a very basic question.. Will adding a JB+ to my car at default setting trip any codes? ive read on here that its highly unlikely for the most part, but anyone hear of anything that would contradict that argument? about to pick one up, but my warranty is way more important. Just want a simple upgrade to give me more juice and dont wanna have to (buy a CAN or BT Basic tool to) check it everytime before i bring it in for service.

One other thing - will adding a Dual Cone Intake do anything to my warranty ? Would i have to take them out every time i go for service like the JB+ ? Just getting into upgrades now so please excuse my lack of knowledge on the overall subject.

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02themax · 03-29-2011, 08:03 PM

Most likely no but there's always a possibility so invest in a BT or can tool, don't be cheap and not buy one cause you'll be worried if you do throw a code.

Take mods off if you value your warranty.

gunsekun · 03-29-2011, 08:04 PM

if you search..... There are tons of answers

JayKay335i · 03-29-2011, 08:21 PM

Its unlikely, but it may. Just like every other thread you've read about it says.

thkfast · 03-29-2011, 08:28 PM

Just to add to what EDubs was asking. What if you put a JB+ on...then drive it like you stole it, then take it off before service. If it throws a code, you just play DUMB and ask them, "Okay, so what's that mean?" If you don't admit to having made the mod, how can they tell what threw the code?

michaelalex17 · 03-29-2011, 08:29 PM

i think it depends on which software you have, because i ran the jb+ and i got the same codes on 50% and 100%, so i got codes on the default setting, that doesnt mean you will. i highly recommend a BT scan tool. btw, do the solenoid bypass and put the jb+ to 75% and the car will be very very fast.

michaelalex17 · 03-29-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thkfast

Just to add to what EDubs was asking. What if you put a JB+ on...then drive it like you stole it, then take it off before service. If it throws a code, you just play DUMB and ask them, "Okay, so what's that mean?" If you don't admit to having made the mod, how can they tell what threw the code?

its a tuner code, it doesnt get thrown unless you have a tune. so you can play dumb all you want, they know those codes wont come up without a tune.

EDubs · 03-30-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelalex17

i think it depends on which software you have, because i ran the jb+ and i got the same codes on 50% and 100%, so i got codes on the default setting, that doesnt mean you will. i highly recommend a BT scan tool. btw, do the solenoid bypass and put the jb+ to 75% and the car will be very very fast.

How does the solenoid bypass work ? complicated ? How much does the BT Scan tool run?

belal242 · 03-30-2011, 08:01 AM

I'll sell you my CAN tool for $90

Verbiage · 03-30-2011, 09:02 AM

This is why I'm glad my car is at 56K miles.

WWONG · 03-30-2011, 12:17 PM

Ran a JB+ at 50% and 75% for a couple of months. No codes thrown and I rode it pretty hard.

For some reason, the car felt a lot better after I took it off. Yes, not as much thrust and sound from the turbos, but the boost felt better for some reason. IMO, JB4 or nothing!

michaelalex17 · 03-30-2011, 12:21 PM

the solenoid bypass is very easy to do. there is an instruction guide on how to do it on burger tunings website. i believe its page 12 or 13 in the JB2 install guide. it allows boost to build earlier and hold it all the way to the shift.

EDubs · 03-30-2011, 02:54 PM

WHats the difference between the CAN and BT SCAN tool? is one better ? and is either one failsafe when detecting/deleting tune codes?

michaelalex17 · 03-30-2011, 02:58 PM

go to burger motorsport.com they sell both products, read the descriptions. i have the BT scan tool i love it.

Kroy · 03-30-2011, 03:31 PM

i'm happy with my bt tool. would definitely recommend one if you decide to jb+ or other tune. price of jb+ and scan tool is still very affordable considering the gains and ease of use. well, it's cheaper than potentially getting your warranty voided.

you might want to do some research yourself in the technical section if you're not sure of anything. i'm sure there's a thread in existence for any question you have right now. of course you can just blindly trust what people tell you in this thread without validation.

oh yeah, lowering jb+ settings just makes it less likely to throw a code. i've heard of jb+ throwing code below 50%. i've also heard of people running 100% for over a year without code. lots of factors come into play; including temperature, elevation, your driving style and just plain luck.

carve · 03-30-2011, 03:53 PM

WWONG: was it too laggy?

What does the solenoid bypass do? Keep the wastegate from opening? Wouldn't that cause the turbo to overspeed?

bkrM3 · 03-31-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelalex17

i think it depends on which software you have, because i ran the jb+ and i got the same codes on 50% and 100%, so i got codes on the default setting, that doesnt mean you will. i highly recommend a BT scan tool. btw, do the solenoid bypass and put the jb+ to 75% and the car will be very very fast.

+1 I had the exact same experience with codes, did the same 75% and bypass thing and was very happy. I dont own a BT scanner but had a local shop scan it before I needed to go in for service. Really wasn't a pain at all...

PatJags156 · 02-13-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bkr335

+1 I had the exact same experience with codes, did the same 75% and bypass thing and was very happy. I dont own a BT scanner but had a local shop scan it before I needed to go in for service. Really wasn't a pain at all...

Yes I did a search!!

I just purchased the JB2 Pinout (N54 Stage 1). I know it's not the best one but I am only looking for a little extra boost.

How do you set it to 50%-90%? I was under the impression it only had one setting?

335(EX)(EYE) · 02-13-2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDubs

I have a very basic question.. Will adding a JB+ to my car at default setting trip any codes? ive read on here that its highly unlikely for the most part, but anyone hear of anything that would contradict that argument? about to pick one up, but my warranty is way more important. Just want a simple upgrade to give me more juice and dont wanna have to (buy a CAN or BT Basic tool to) check it everytime before i bring it in for service.

One other thing - will adding a Dual Cone Intake do anything to my warranty ? Would i have to take them out every time i go for service like the JB+ ? Just getting into upgrades now so please excuse my lack of knowledge on the overall subject.

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Thanks

Please Search before posting

The intake will not VOID warranty. buttt it will cause you some issues at some dealerships.

The JB threw codes for me at 50 percent but most people dont get em. You have a BMW, which means u spent some good money on it unless u stole it. so i seriousely advise you to get a bt tool or can tool even if u DONT have the JB. In my opinion it is a MUST.

bkrM3 · 02-13-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PatJags156

Yes I did a search!!

I just purchased the JB2 Pinout (N54 Stage 1). I know it's not the best one but I am only looking for a little extra boost.

How do you set it to 50%-90%? I was under the impression it only had one setting?

Holy old thread.

The JB2 is not the same as a JB+

There is no dial with which to set a JB2.

PatJags156 · 02-13-2012, 03:02 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

What about the solenoid bypass mod? Can I do that?

boostaholic786 · 02-13-2012, 03:16 PM

I would personally get one of the tools to read/delete codes ect... If I didnt have a JB4!Thats one thing I love about my JB4 is I can hook it up to my laptop and know EVERYTHING that is going on with my car and how I can adjust things such as fuel/boost and so on

If you really think about it, the JB4 has a built in scan tool in it plus a TON more features!

03-29-2011, 08:00 PM	#1
EDubs New Member 7 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 2009 335i -M-sPoRt Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: new york iTrader: (0)	JB + ---> question I have a very basic question.. Will adding a JB+ to my car at default setting trip any codes? ive read on here that its highly unlikely for the most part, but anyone hear of anything that would contradict that argument? about to pick one up, but my warranty is way more important. Just want a simple upgrade to give me more juice and dont wanna have to (buy a CAN or BT Basic tool to) check it everytime before i bring it in for service. One other thing - will adding a Dual Cone Intake do anything to my warranty ? Would i have to take them out every time i go for service like the JB+ ? Just getting into upgrades now so please excuse my lack of knowledge on the overall subject. \ Thanks
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03-29-2011, 08:03 PM	#2
02themax Captain 28 Rep 946 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary, AB iTrader: (6)	Most likely no but there's always a possibility so invest in a BT or can tool, don't be cheap and not buy one cause you'll be worried if you do throw a code. Take mods off if you value your warranty. __________________ E90 335i Sport Package - Logic 7 Sound w/ipod - Bluetooth - Comfort Access - PDC - 19" M3 Reps 275/30 235/35 - Blacklines - 10mil spacers rear, 5mil spacers front - BMW Alarm
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JayKay335i Banned 189 Rep 5,046 Posts Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH iTrader: (1)	Its unlikely, but it may. Just like every other thread you've read about it says.
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thkfast Major 261 Rep 1,029 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 M4 Sakhir Orange DCT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA iTrader: (1)	Just to add to what EDubs was asking. What if you put a JB+ on...then drive it like you stole it, then take it off before service. If it throws a code, you just play DUMB and ask them, "Okay, so what's that mean?" If you don't admit to having made the mod, how can they tell what threw the code? __________________ "The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity with which others attempt to prove him wrong." 2015 F82 M4 - Sakhir Orange Metallic 2013 E92 M3 / 2013 E92 335is / 2010 E90 335i / 2007 E90 335i
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michaelalex17 Brigadier General 596 Rep 3,386 Posts Drives: Manual Wagon Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (4)	i think it depends on which software you have, because i ran the jb+ and i got the same codes on 50% and 100%, so i got codes on the default setting, that doesnt mean you will. i highly recommend a BT scan tool. btw, do the solenoid bypass and put the jb+ to 75% and the car will be very very fast.
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belal242 Lieutenant 32 Rep 479 Posts Drives: 11 F10 550xi Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 550xi [0.00]	I'll sell you my CAN tool for $90
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WWONG Banned 109 Rep 1,830 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW X5 xDrive35d Join Date: May 2010 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (14)	Ran a JB+ at 50% and 75% for a couple of months. No codes thrown and I rode it pretty hard. For some reason, the car felt a lot better after I took it off. Yes, not as much thrust and sound from the turbos, but the boost felt better for some reason. IMO, JB4 or nothing!
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michaelalex17 Brigadier General 596 Rep 3,386 Posts Drives: Manual Wagon Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (4)	the solenoid bypass is very easy to do. there is an instruction guide on how to do it on burger tunings website. i believe its page 12 or 13 in the JB2 install guide. it allows boost to build earlier and hold it all the way to the shift.
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EDubs New Member 7 Rep 29 Posts Drives: 2009 335i -M-sPoRt Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: new york iTrader: (0)	WHats the difference between the CAN and BT SCAN tool? is one better ? and is either one failsafe when detecting/deleting tune codes?
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michaelalex17 Brigadier General 596 Rep 3,386 Posts Drives: Manual Wagon Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (4)	go to burger motorsport.com they sell both products, read the descriptions. i have the BT scan tool i love it.
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Kroy Brigadier General 173 Rep 3,032 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (1)	i'm happy with my bt tool. would definitely recommend one if you decide to jb+ or other tune. price of jb+ and scan tool is still very affordable considering the gains and ease of use. well, it's cheaper than potentially getting your warranty voided. you might want to do some research yourself in the technical section if you're not sure of anything. i'm sure there's a thread in existence for any question you have right now. of course you can just blindly trust what people tell you in this thread without validation. oh yeah, lowering jb+ settings just makes it less likely to throw a code. i've heard of jb+ throwing code below 50%. i've also heard of people running 100% for over a year without code. lots of factors come into play; including temperature, elevation, your driving style and just plain luck.
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carve Major 177 Rep 1,105 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: usa iTrader: (0)	WWONG: was it too laggy? What does the solenoid bypass do? Keep the wastegate from opening? Wouldn't that cause the turbo to overspeed?
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PatJags156 Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 263 Posts Drives: 335i Convertible Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Thanks for the clarification. What about the solenoid bypass mod? Can I do that?
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boostaholic786 Captain 40 Rep 623 Posts Drives: E92 N54 with MHD Custom flash Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Plano TX iTrader: (0)	I would personally get one of the tools to read/delete codes ect... If I didnt have a JB4!Thats one thing I love about my JB4 is I can hook it up to my laptop and know EVERYTHING that is going on with my car and how I can adjust things such as fuel/boost and so on If you really think about it, the JB4 has a built in scan tool in it plus a TON more features!
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