E90Post
 


Coby Wheel
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > UK > UK Technical Forum > Tyre pressure warning (too high?)



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-08-2013, 02:43 AM   #1
C.J
-_-
United Kingdom
33
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Tyre pressure warning (too high?)

On my way to work today, I had the 'Low Tyre pressure' warning flash up on the iDrive.

I immediately took it to the local tyre company to check it.

I have 255/30/19 & 225/35/19 RFT (with the ZCP style wheels from CM Wheels). They checked all 4, which were showing 45-60 psi

Now, they've reset all 4 to 32/34 psi, and I've reset the iDrive. Since leaving I felt the steering was heavier, and felt like it was tram-lining very easy.

Any advice? Why were they set extremely high?

I've just took a photo of each tyre:

Rear OS

Front OS

Front NS

Rear NS

Last edited by C.J; 03-08-2013 at 03:09 AM.. Reason: Added pictures
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 02:52 AM   #2
seanblee
Captain
seanblee's Avatar
47
Rep
791
Posts

Drives: 2021 G21 M340i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Enfield, UK

iTrader: (2)

The old pressures were too high, but it sounds like the new ones are too low. Something around 36psi front / 38psi rear should feel rather better.
__________________
2019 VW Golf GTI Performance | H&R rear ARB
Previously 2007 E92 335i SE auto | Quaife LSD | Birds B3 ARBs | Evolve Stage 1
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 02:53 AM   #3
C.J
-_-
United Kingdom
33
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

I've only owned the car 3/4 weeks, so I can't understand why they were so high to begin with?
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 02:56 AM   #4
seanblee
Captain
seanblee's Avatar
47
Rep
791
Posts

Drives: 2021 G21 M340i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Enfield, UK

iTrader: (2)

Because someone set them too high? 45psi could be about right for fully laden pressure, but 60psi is insane - the only time the tyres should see pressures like that is to seat them in the bead when they're being fitted.
__________________
2019 VW Golf GTI Performance | H&R rear ARB
Previously 2007 E92 335i SE auto | Quaife LSD | Birds B3 ARBs | Evolve Stage 1
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:11 AM   #5
C.J
-_-
United Kingdom
33
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

I assume going from 60 to 32 will be the reason my steering feels heavier now? (bearing in mind I've only driven the car on 60psi, which felt light).

What would you recommend? 38 front, 40 rear?
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:21 AM   #6
seanblee
Captain
seanblee's Avatar
47
Rep
791
Posts

Drives: 2021 G21 M340i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Enfield, UK

iTrader: (2)

I'd start with 36 front, 38 rear then adjust slightly if necessary.
__________________
2019 VW Golf GTI Performance | H&R rear ARB
Previously 2007 E92 335i SE auto | Quaife LSD | Birds B3 ARBs | Evolve Stage 1
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:25 AM   #7
AlwynMike
Lieutenant Colonel
United Kingdom
334
Rep
1,659
Posts

Drives: F36 440i GC.
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lincolnshire Flatlands

iTrader: (1)

Look for the correct pressure on the plate next to the drivers door.
On my Touring, for your size tyres, it should be 39psi (2.7bar) front and 46psi (3.2bar) rear for normal usage - yours may be slightly different.

After running at 60psi (not only dangerous, but illegal as well!!), I would expect the steering to be heavier as you effectively have more tyre on the road as it isn't "ballooning".

Mike
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:34 AM   #8
djgandy
Colonel
djgandy's Avatar
146
Rep
2,337
Posts

Drives: E93 M3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 M3  [0.00]
I'd start with whatever it says in the door. Probably something like 2.7 bar (39) rear, 2.5 bar (36) front.

You are unlikely to have a TPM, you have Flat Tyre Monitor. On a basic level this just counts wheel rotations on an axle and concludes that if one wheel is turning fewer and fewer times over a given period that it is deflating.

I've had this light come on before after hitting a pothole a day after inflating my tyres correctly. I bought mine from a main dealer and they hadn't even set the correct pressures. Rears were like 2.1 2.4, fronts were 2.0, 2.2, a long way from what they should have been.

Put the correct pressures in, reset the Flat Tyre Monitor and drive off.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:38 AM   #9
creepy coupe
Lieutenant General
creepy coupe's Avatar
1867
Rep
13,043
Posts

Drives: BMW M340I G20
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2015 BMW 435d  [0.00]
2009 335i  [0.00]
It sounds like the tyre Monkey inflated them too pop the beads and didn't let any air back to adjust the pressures.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 04:02 AM   #10
C.J
-_-
United Kingdom
33
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Thanks gents, your advice is greatly appreciated.

Looking at the tyres (running 60psi), they did look very stretched, with very little sidewall.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 04:30 AM   #11
creepy coupe
Lieutenant General
creepy coupe's Avatar
1867
Rep
13,043
Posts

Drives: BMW M340I G20
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2015 BMW 435d  [0.00]
2009 335i  [0.00]
I found the best all-round pressure on my 19" RF's was 38 rear 34 front. This helped reduce premature shoulder wear on the rears
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 04:34 AM   #12
doughboy
Major General
doughboy's Avatar
1545
Rep
8,970
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2 Comp 6MT
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: UK

iTrader: (2)

If the tyres were fitted and shipped from CM wheels, they will probably have been left at seating pressures by the tyre fitter.

I'm not sure who would fit wheels/tyres on a car without checking the pressures, and of course as responsible drivers (ahem) we should all check our tyre pressures weekly...
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 06:05 AM   #13
C.J
-_-
United Kingdom
33
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

<holds hands up>

I know I should have checked. They are RFT from the 225 style alloy, so CM wheels are not to blame, as they were fitted by the last owner.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 06:20 AM   #14
makkan00
Major General
makkan00's Avatar
United Kingdom
886
Rep
9,097
Posts

Drives: F83 and F36
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

iTrader: (56)

Quote:
Originally Posted by creepy coupe View Post
I found the best all-round pressure on my 19" RF's was 38 rear 34 front. This helped reduce premature shoulder wear on the rears
And what is best all-round pressure for non-RFTs 19inch tyes?
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 07:23 AM   #15
creepy coupe
Lieutenant General
creepy coupe's Avatar
1867
Rep
13,043
Posts

Drives: BMW M340I G20
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: UK

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2015 BMW 435d  [0.00]
2009 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by makkan00 View Post
And what is best all-round pressure for non-RFTs 19inch tyes?
I ran with 34 front 235/35/19 36 rear 265/30/19.Falken 452's
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 08:48 AM   #16
ed330D
Private First Class
France
18
Rep
189
Posts

Drives: E92 330D
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SW France

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlwynMike View Post
Look for the correct pressure on the plate next to the drivers door.
On my Touring, for your size tyres, it should be 39psi (2.7bar) front and 46psi (3.2bar) rear for normal usage - yours may be slightly different.

After running at 60psi (not only dangerous, but illegal as well!!), I would expect the steering to be heavier as you effectively have more tyre on the road as it isn't "ballooning".

Mike
Fully agree. Just a couple of things to add.

If you run with lower pressures than recommended by BMW there's a very real risk of abnormal shoulder wear.

When setting pressures it must be done on cold tyres, ie before you go out. It's useless to take the presssure after driving to a garage, and likewise at the tyre depot. I've found a 3psi difference between the pressure of a tyre that had been in the sun for a few hours and one in the shade, so try to pick a cloudy day or do it first thing in the morning. Of course you may be lucky enough to have a garage, so won't have this problem.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 12:14 PM   #17
C.J
-_-
United Kingdom
33
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Well, I popped down to Tesco on the way home to top up the pressure on all 4.

To my horror, the fronts were now showing 14psi, and the rear 16psi. (After being sat for 9hrs at work).

Either the tyre place this morning misread my 60psi, and reduced it too low, or I have 4 tyres/alloys with a serious problem.

I've now topped them up to 37/40. I will keep an eye on them over the weekend.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 12:59 PM   #18
makkan00
Major General
makkan00's Avatar
United Kingdom
886
Rep
9,097
Posts

Drives: F83 and F36
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

iTrader: (56)

Quote:
Originally Posted by creepy coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by makkan00 View Post
And what is best all-round pressure for non-RFTs 19inch tyes?
I ran with 34 front 235/35/19 36 rear 265/30/19.Falken 452's
Thanks. I'm running 32 all round and I thought it was high.
Will try your recommendation.
__________________
F36 Xdrive for her - HUD, park assist, heated steering wheel, rear camera, Apple car play
F36 RWD for him - HK, M sports pack, GTS tail light, Apple car play
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 02:40 PM   #19
djgandy
Colonel
djgandy's Avatar
146
Rep
2,337
Posts

Drives: E93 M3
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: London

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J View Post
Well, I popped down to Tesco on the way home to top up the pressure on all 4.

To my horror, the fronts were now showing 14psi, and the rear 16psi. (After being sat for 9hrs at work).

Either the tyre place this morning misread my 60psi, and reduced it too low, or I have 4 tyres/alloys with a serious problem.

I've now topped them up to 37/40. I will keep an eye on them over the weekend.

Digital or analogue gauge? Find a good gauge! Digital garage ones are usually pretty accurate.

I borrowed someones analogue pump that read 10PSI high!
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 02:50 PM   #20
zltm089
Banned
zltm089's Avatar
United Kingdom
243
Rep
7,690
Posts

Drives: 335i SE Coupe Space Grey
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: LONDON

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 BMW 335i  [10.00]
60psi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....fcukin hell....thats some explosing pressure there!...lol...


you should be running around 36/ 38 for the fronts and about 40 for the rears....

since u got rft....up the rears by 42 actually...
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:13 PM   #21
NH335i
First Lieutenant
United_States
9
Rep
302
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: NH

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i  [0.00]
I could understand how a crazy person could set them to that.
Ive seen plenty of tires that say max psi 60 lbs.
So if someone read that and thought that meant set it to that, then viola.
Crazy person, driving on exploding tires.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2013, 03:32 PM   #22
HighlandPete
Lieutenant General
6659
Rep
15,858
Posts

Drives: BMW F11 535i Touring
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Scotland, Highland Region

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J View Post
Well, I popped down to Tesco on the way home to top up the pressure on all 4.

To my horror, the fronts were now showing 14psi, and the rear 16psi. (After being sat for 9hrs at work).

Either the tyre place this morning misread my 60psi, and reduced it too low, or I have 4 tyres/alloys with a serious problem.

I've now topped them up to 37/40. I will keep an eye on them over the weekend.
Sounds as if the tyre shop gauge was way off, if you later had 14 and 16psi.

As has been said, a warm tyre will increase in pressure, but only around 3 - 4psi this time of the year at low ambient temperatures, (unless you were burning rubber). So a big error this morning.

Best advice get a decent tyre gauge to keep a personal check on the actual pressures you are running. Even when you use an external source for pumping up tyres, use your gauge to set them to your known value.

HighlandPete
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:46 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST