What would you pay for plug n play?

e90AW335i · 04-21-2008, 10:36 PM

Regardless of the tune (JB2, Helix, V2, AA Processor, CPe), how much more would you pay for PNP on top of the regular price of the tune?

JB2 = 379 + choice above

V2 = 1300 + choice above

Attache = 795 + choice above

Processor = 695 + choice above

(if you think it should be less then choices above than list amount below)

Amir87 · 04-21-2008, 11:01 PM

Depends what the price of tune "x" already is.

hensta · 04-21-2008, 11:05 PM

There ought to be a $50, $100 and >$300 option for completeness sake.

AU335 · 04-21-2008, 11:07 PM

Dude....when did you decide you switch to the Helix Attache? Or are you still keeping the jbx too?

Long Drive · 04-21-2008, 11:30 PM

Do I not understand the question...where is SSTT? Certainly well worth the going rate at $600 or usually less.

But then, half the time I don't know what the hell you guy's are talking about anyway!!

David 12 · 04-21-2008, 11:34 PM

Part of me says it should be included in the normal price - Just consider it providing excellent customer service and a "thank you" to loyal customers!

Dave

J-Sud · 04-21-2008, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long Drive

Do I not understand the question...where is SSTT? Certainly well worth the going rate at $600 or usually less.

But then, half the time I don't know what the hell you guy's are talking about anyway!!

SSTT doesnt need a PNP harness its only used for the tunes stated above

mJ335 · 04-22-2008, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long Drive

Do I not understand the question...where is SSTT? Certainly well worth the going rate at $600 or usually less.

But then, half the time I don't know what the hell you guy's are talking about anyway!!

SSTT is already PNP.. this thread is referring to the tunes that are not PNP (unless one wants to pay extra, as the thread states).

e.n335 · 04-22-2008, 12:27 AM

I would pay whatever it takes. However, a plug and play harness should not be more expensive than US$150 over the normal harness provided with the product, IMO. So, e.g. if the normal harness for product x would be US$200, the PnP harness for this product should not be more than US$350.

uberschnell · 04-22-2008, 12:36 AM

The price for the v2 harness upgrade was $150. I can't even begin to imagine what the price for upgrading to the new pnp V3 harness will be. Personally, I've sunk enough into this as is.

BMWPower06 · 04-22-2008, 12:38 AM

Vishnu is my favorite tune, but for that price it should already be PNP

astris · 04-22-2008, 12:43 AM

Price check. Can I get a price check for Terry at BMS?

LOL.

Anyway, for a product that is all hardware and the only benefit of the PNP is faster install, ~ $20.

For a product where there are additional features along with faster/cleaner install... more than $20.

drphil71 · 04-22-2008, 12:45 AM

Is there any indication that any tune other than Procede V3 is heading in the PnP direction? It would be great if it would become the norm, and I think it would boost sales to those that were not open to tuning before. It seems like the next logical thing to make universal among tunes.

e.n335 · 04-22-2008, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drphil71

Is there any indication that any tune other than Procede V3 is heading in the PnP direction? It would be great if it would become the norm, and I think it would boost sales to those that were not open to tuning before. It seems like the next logical thing to make universal among tunes.

No. Not as far as I know. A lot of customers would appreciate it.

Kbueno · 04-22-2008, 01:10 AM

IT should be:
Actual cost of connectors with 15% markup,
Labor/harness assembly,
A reasonable R&D markup.
Shipping

If someone could provide the connector/wiring harness costs we could do some estimates.

normtrum · 04-22-2008, 01:20 AM

I can't really figure out why you started this poll. Is it because you really do have a genuine interest? Or is it to try and get a few more shots at vishnu. You are by far the number one JB fan on this forum....which is fine....but I'm having a little trouble believing you don't have a hidden agenda.

e.n335 · 04-22-2008, 01:29 AM

I would love to see a picture with the V3 PnP harness installed in the ECU box. Anyone has it already ?

cedchung · 04-22-2008, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWPower06

Vishnu is my favorite tune, but for that price it should already be PNP

i agree

mJ335 · 04-22-2008, 01:58 AM

If JB2 was PnP.. I'll be all over it.

PeeGoo · 04-22-2008, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by normtrum

I can't really figure out why you started this poll. Is it because you really do have a genuine interest? Or is it to try and get a few more shots at vishnu. You are by far the number one JB fan on this forum....which is fine....but I'm having a little trouble believing you don't have a hidden agenda.

That was from left field. The guy is going Helix.

Maybe he's going to build harnesses. He seems like the entrepreneurial type.

mistermojorizin · 04-22-2008, 02:20 AM

i think it should be included in base cost of the tune. they'll make the profit up in volume. its just the next version of the product. the product shouldn't get that much more expensive every time a new version comes out.

if anything it should be a % of base cost increase, maybe 5-10% more.

RMcoolX · 04-22-2008, 02:56 AM

Quality and convenience is #1 to me. I don't have time to be fooling with non-PnP devices, and I definately don't want limp modes. HP per dollar spent is second when it comes to importance.

That is why I own the SSTT. If I could have gotten a PnP version of the JB2 for the same price, I would probably have it. It would have been worth another $300 for the convenience alone.

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hensta I see old people 7 Rep 111 Posts Drives: too slow in my '08 335i coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nor CA iTrader: (0)	There ought to be a $50, $100 and >$300 option for completeness sake.
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AU335 Colonel 193 Rep 2,443 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southeast iTrader: (7) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Dude....when did you decide you switch to the Helix Attache? Or are you still keeping the jbx too?
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Long Drive Enlisted Member 1 Rep 44 Posts Drives: 2007 Monaco Blue 335i Coupe Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arlington Heights, IL iTrader: (0)	Do I not understand the question...where is SSTT? Certainly well worth the going rate at $600 or usually less. But then, half the time I don't know what the hell you guy's are talking about anyway!! __________________ The 335i Isn't The Best At Anything, But It Is The Best At Everything!
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David 12 Major 127 Rep 1,048 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5 50i BSM, M Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Omaha iTrader: (0)	Part of me says it should be included in the normal price - Just consider it providing excellent customer service and a "thank you" to loyal customers! Dave
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e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	I would pay whatever it takes. However, a plug and play harness should not be more expensive than US$150 over the normal harness provided with the product, IMO. So, e.g. if the normal harness for product x would be US$200, the PnP harness for this product should not be more than US$350.
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uberschnell Brigadier General 675 Rep 4,080 Posts Drives: Wide Body 1 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (48)	The price for the v2 harness upgrade was $150. I can't even begin to imagine what the price for upgrading to the new pnp V3 harness will be. Personally, I've sunk enough into this as is. Last edited by uberschnell; 04-22-2008 at 08:07 AM..
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BMWPower06 A^M=G is nothing w/o the Power of ///M 171 Rep 1,816 Posts Drives: ///M5 & ///M3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Washington D.C. iTrader: (0)	Vishnu is my favorite tune, but for that price it should already be PNP __________________ Indianapolis Red BMW ///M5
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astris Major 617 Rep 1,154 Posts Drives: M4 ZCP Individual Mintgruen Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (8)	Price check. Can I get a price check for Terry at BMS? LOL. Anyway, for a product that is all hardware and the only benefit of the PNP is faster install, ~ $20. For a product where there are additional features along with faster/cleaner install... more than $20.
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drphil71 First Lieutenant 5 Rep 308 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Florida iTrader: (1)	Is there any indication that any tune other than Procede V3 is heading in the PnP direction? It would be great if it would become the norm, and I think it would boost sales to those that were not open to tuning before. It seems like the next logical thing to make universal among tunes. __________________ E92 335i Sig patent pending...
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Kbueno Lieutenant Colonel 99 Rep 1,712 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: California iTrader: (5)	IT should be: Actual cost of connectors with 15% markup, Labor/harness assembly, A reasonable R&D markup. Shipping If someone could provide the connector/wiring harness costs we could do some estimates.
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normtrum Colonel 52 Rep 2,225 Posts Drives: e90 335i, e46 330i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PNW iTrader: (1)	I can't really figure out why you started this poll. Is it because you really do have a genuine interest? Or is it to try and get a few more shots at vishnu. You are by far the number one JB fan on this forum....which is fine....but I'm having a little trouble believing you don't have a hidden agenda. __________________ 07 335i sedan \| Steptronic \| Black saphire \| Terra \| ZPP \| ZSP \| Cold Weather \| CA \| PDC \| Nav \| OEM Alarm
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mistermojorizin Lieutenant Colonel 40 Rep 1,657 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	i think it should be included in base cost of the tune. they'll make the profit up in volume. its just the next version of the product. the product shouldn't get that much more expensive every time a new version comes out. if anything it should be a % of base cost increase, maybe 5-10% more.
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RMcoolX Private First Class 9 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 2014 528i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Quality and convenience is #1 to me. I don't have time to be fooling with non-PnP devices, and I definately don't want limp modes. HP per dollar spent is second when it comes to importance. That is why I own the SSTT. If I could have gotten a PnP version of the JB2 for the same price, I would probably have it. It would have been worth another $300 for the convenience alone. __________________ 2014 X5 35i (w/N55 Stage 1 Tuner) 2012 C6 Vette (w/Supercharger)
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