Best company for remap ?

SO8 · 10-27-2013, 08:59 AM

So, for my 330d LCI I am thinking of :

DMS
BW Chiptune
E-Maps
Superchips

All offer roughly the same claims re performance.

DMS and Emaps will come to me.
BW Chiptune is not too far away.
Superchips is an hour or so for me.

DMS is double the price of the others but has a very good rep.
I have used Superchips many times but the last (on a 320d) didn't seem to suit the car at all and I had the map removed.
BW Chiptune (Jason) seems well thought of though I am concerned if he was linked to the guy who worked in Birmingham (Jayson ?)
E-Maps seems to have 100% good rep and well used by many.

Is one going to do a more thorough map than the others - or are they all good ?
Is one less likely to be detected by BMW or not ?

They all say their maps can be seen if looked for ... but I am unsure how much BMW do actually look ! If reverted to std by the mapper is the trace of that visible to BMW or not ?

The car is over 3 years old but I would like to know if BMW can see it as I would put it back to std before selling it on and don't want hassle from the next owner if BMW whinge it is still mapped when it is not !

Any comments / views ?

mikeoz · 10-27-2013, 09:07 AM

Hi
I have emaps on my 335i and is very good. Simon knows his stuff you will have no issues there.
Can recommend.
Mike

zltm089 · 10-27-2013, 09:29 AM

BW Chiptune and Emaps are very popular on here.

Not too sure about DMS as they seem to be very pricey.

DMH-01 · 10-27-2013, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeoz

Hi
I have emaps on my 335i and is very good. Simon knows his stuff you will have no issues there.
Can recommend.
Mike

+ 1 for Simon at Emaps.

Bfc1882 · 10-27-2013, 10:08 AM

Well happy with my p torque map. My 330 goes like a rocket now

anielsen71 · 10-27-2013, 10:15 AM

S08
If you don't mind a little roadtrip go to BR-Performance in Belgíum.
I've recently been there and my car just runs so smooth now. And the torque is unbeliveble.
They really know what they are doing.
I ended up with 321hp and 701Nm in my 330dA ;-)

SO8 · 10-27-2013, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anielsen71

S08
If you don't mind a little roadtrip go to BR-Performance in Belgíum.
I've recently been there and my car just runs so smooth now. And the torque is unbeliveble.
They really know what they are doing.
I ended up with 321hp and 701Nm in my 330dA ;-)

Haha, thanks ... and it is good you have someone you are really happy with, but I am lazy - I am keen on someone coming to me or not having to go too far

Kerr · 10-27-2013, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anielsen71

S08
If you don't mind a little roadtrip go to BR-Performance in Belgíum.
I've recently been there and my car just runs so smooth now. And the torque is unbeliveble.
They really know what they are doing.
I ended up with 321hp and 701Nm in my 330dA ;-)

From just a remap?

Seems optimistic given what all the other tuners get.

Their own website doesn't even claim that high.

http://www.br-performance.be/en-be/c...2010/551-330d/

anielsen71 · 10-27-2013, 11:58 AM

No, not just a remap ;-)
I have a stage 3 in their terms. Bigger FMIC, No filter and a hybrid turbo. Should actually have had about 10Hp more..... :-)

anielsen71 · 10-27-2013, 11:59 AM

This is like mine:
http://www.br-performance.be/en-be/c...0d/?stage=4517

Theivz · 10-27-2013, 12:03 PM

simon did my e46 - top bloke but he gets a map from a writer abroad or he did at that time

red dot in edmonton did my 1 series - Augustus writes the maps and they are excellent

Jason BW Chiptune did my tourer and out of the lot he was the best. took hours to perfect the map. he writes it then and there a proper remap. also he can dyno on site as well. if you have any problems he is happy to adjust for free. would recommend him the highest

remember that if bmw update your software it can wipe the map. the only way to detect afaik is if they dyno or drive and suspect a power upgrade (which is quite easy to notice in turbo diesels tbh lol). As for other potential buyers i wouldnt worry you dont notice from "outside"

some people opt to go for "removable" devices fir this reason but i dont know much about them...

all my opinions hope that helps

Russbmw · 10-27-2013, 01:25 PM

Emaps or BW, I've used both in the past, both very good and nice guys as well.

I echo what Theivz has said about Jason. What's good with him is he knows BMWs very well to start with.

parapaul · 10-27-2013, 03:43 PM

OP, where abouts in the UK are you?

I'll second the recommendation for P-Torque in Wolverhampton. Outstanding service.

SO8 · 10-27-2013, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parapaul

OP, where abouts in the UK are you?

I'll second the recommendation for P-Torque in Wolverhampton. Outstanding service.

Surrey ... thus DMS (who will come to me) or BW Chiptune ... though E-maps will travel too.
Superchips are farther away but I have used them a few times - mostly very successfully.

Hotcoupe · 10-27-2013, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SO8

Surrey ... though E-maps will travel too.

Yes me too, and Simon came down on both occasions.

No brainer really.

Note:18 of the horses were down to the exhaust,or lack of the most of it!

SO8 · 10-27-2013, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

Yes me too, and Simon came down on both occasions.

No brainer really.

Note:18 of the horses were down to the exhaust,or lack of the most of it!

Impressive ! And I worry about the 330d putting down 290bhp !!

RagingKileak · 10-27-2013, 04:57 PM

Evolve or P Torque get my vote. Can't go far wrong with DMS though.

Matt

Bfc1882 · 10-28-2013, 06:32 AM

I got mine p torqued at my local Indy in North Lincolnshire. Just a case of sending my car file to them and letting them have a tinker then send it back ready to put on the car. Give them a ring they might have someone in your area who can do this

captaindirk · 10-28-2013, 10:27 AM

I had my 120d done by emaps and was very happy with the result.

For my 325d, I chose Superchips Bluefin, and I am happy with the result.
I went for the Bluefin so that I could remove the map if I wished (such as when going in to BM for warranty work) and put it on again afterwards...or if BM did some sort of flash update and over wrote the new map.

Overall. I think the Bluefin is the best option.

SO8 · 10-28-2013, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaindirk

I had my 120d done by emaps and was very happy with the result.

For my 325d, I chose Superchips Bluefin, and I am happy with the result.
I went for the Bluefin so that I could remove the map if I wished (such as when going in to BM for warranty work) and put it on again afterwards...or if BM did some sort of flash update and over wrote the new map.

Overall. I think the Bluefin is the best option.

I had Bluefin for my 320d auto but the cars auto box didn't like it or adapt - so it came off. It was smooth and produced the power (up to 215 from 177) but the box hated it - it didn't integrate with that at all.

Because my 330d is a 2010 one the ECU has to come out - they can't do it via a Bluefin device sadly ... as I would have done that - it makes it easier to sell if std.

1 AKY · 10-29-2013, 08:34 AM

Surprised nobody has mentioned Evolve yet. Or am I missing something?

SO8 · 11-01-2013, 10:18 AM

Well, I went with DMS who turned up this morning and did their stuff without fuss. Very professional and no issues at all.

I now need to let the map 'adapt' as 'out of the box' it didn't seem any quicker ... which I am told is normal - and to be fair was my experience with a previous remap on a Golf for the 1st hour or so's driving .. then that map settled and all hell broke loose

I just need some dry weather to be able to use the gears fully and let it adapt ! It is currently wet and greasy

10-27-2013, 08:59 AM	#1
SO8 Major 241 Rep 1,204 Posts Drives: BMW G42 M240i xdrive Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Best company for remap ? So, for my 330d LCI I am thinking of : DMS BW Chiptune E-Maps Superchips All offer roughly the same claims re performance. DMS and Emaps will come to me. BW Chiptune is not too far away. Superchips is an hour or so for me. DMS is double the price of the others but has a very good rep. I have used Superchips many times but the last (on a 320d) didn't seem to suit the car at all and I had the map removed. BW Chiptune (Jason) seems well thought of though I am concerned if he was linked to the guy who worked in Birmingham (Jayson ?) E-Maps seems to have 100% good rep and well used by many. Is one going to do a more thorough map than the others - or are they all good ? Is one less likely to be detected by BMW or not ? They all say their maps can be seen if looked for ... but I am unsure how much BMW do actually look ! If reverted to std by the mapper is the trace of that visible to BMW or not ? The car is over 3 years old but I would like to know if BMW can see it as I would put it back to std before selling it on and don't want hassle from the next owner if BMW whinge it is still mapped when it is not ! Any comments / views ?
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mikeoz Major General 2856 Rep 5,607 Posts Drives: BMW X3 M40d LCI Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: cambs iTrader: (1)	Hi I have emaps on my 335i and is very good. Simon knows his stuff you will have no issues there. Can recommend. Mike
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zltm089 Banned 242 Rep 7,690 Posts Drives: 335i SE Coupe Space Grey Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LONDON iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 335i [10.00]	BW Chiptune and Emaps are very popular on here. Not too sure about DMS as they seem to be very pricey.
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Bfc1882 Private First Class 13 Rep 163 Posts Drives: F30 335d Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Scunthorpe iTrader: (0)	Well happy with my p torque map. My 330 goes like a rocket now
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anielsen71 Lieutenant Colonel 557 Rep 1,500 Posts Drives: F36 435xd Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Behind the wheel iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F36 435d [8.00]	S08 If you don't mind a little roadtrip go to BR-Performance in Belgíum. I've recently been there and my car just runs so smooth now. And the torque is unbeliveble. They really know what they are doing. I ended up with 321hp and 701Nm in my 330dA ;-)
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anielsen71 Lieutenant Colonel 557 Rep 1,500 Posts Drives: F36 435xd Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Behind the wheel iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F36 435d [8.00]	No, not just a remap ;-) I have a stage 3 in their terms. Bigger FMIC, No filter and a hybrid turbo. Should actually have had about 10Hp more..... :-) __________________ Brgds Allan ‘15 F36 435xd Gran Coupé Ex: E46 330d, E91 330dA
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Theivz Lieutenant 43 Rep 487 Posts Drives: Project Z Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	simon did my e46 - top bloke but he gets a map from a writer abroad or he did at that time red dot in edmonton did my 1 series - Augustus writes the maps and they are excellent Jason BW Chiptune did my tourer and out of the lot he was the best. took hours to perfect the map. he writes it then and there a proper remap. also he can dyno on site as well. if you have any problems he is happy to adjust for free. would recommend him the highest remember that if bmw update your software it can wipe the map. the only way to detect afaik is if they dyno or drive and suspect a power upgrade (which is quite easy to notice in turbo diesels tbh lol). As for other potential buyers i wouldnt worry you dont notice from "outside" some people opt to go for "removable" devices fir this reason but i dont know much about them... all my opinions hope that helps __________________
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Russbmw Colonel 680 Rep 2,444 Posts Drives: 2018 630iGT sport Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Caloundra, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 BMW 640i [0.00] 2014 BMW 530d GT [0.00] 2017 Kawasaki Z1000SX [0.00]	Emaps or BW, I've used both in the past, both very good and nice guys as well. I echo what Theivz has said about Jason. What's good with him is he knows BMWs very well to start with. __________________
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parapaul Colonel 118 Rep 2,216 Posts Drives: E91 330d M Sport Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stoke on Trent iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 E91 330D MSport [0.00]	OP, where abouts in the UK are you? I'll second the recommendation for P-Torque in Wolverhampton. Outstanding service. __________________ Just how many Yorkshire sheep can you fit inside one exhaust?
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RagingKileak Brigadier General 191 Rep 4,655 Posts Drives: M3 CS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (2)	Evolve or P Torque get my vote. Can't go far wrong with DMS though. Matt
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Bfc1882 Private First Class 13 Rep 163 Posts Drives: F30 335d Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Scunthorpe iTrader: (0)	I got mine p torqued at my local Indy in North Lincolnshire. Just a case of sending my car file to them and letting them have a tinker then send it back ready to put on the car. Give them a ring they might have someone in your area who can do this
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captaindirk New Member 0 Rep 16 Posts Drives: 325d Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Up North iTrader: (0)	Maps I had my 120d done by emaps and was very happy with the result. For my 325d, I chose Superchips Bluefin, and I am happy with the result. I went for the Bluefin so that I could remove the map if I wished (such as when going in to BM for warranty work) and put it on again afterwards...or if BM did some sort of flash update and over wrote the new map. Overall. I think the Bluefin is the best option.
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SO8 Major 241 Rep 1,204 Posts Drives: BMW G42 M240i xdrive Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	Well, I went with DMS who turned up this morning and did their stuff without fuss. Very professional and no issues at all. I now need to let the map 'adapt' as 'out of the box' it didn't seem any quicker ... which I am told is normal - and to be fair was my experience with a previous remap on a Golf for the 1st hour or so's driving .. then that map settled and all hell broke loose I just need some dry weather to be able to use the gears fully and let it adapt ! It is currently wet and greasy
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