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      05-06-2010, 09:49 PM   #89
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just got the pbx.....haven't installed it. now you go and tell me this. what do i do?!?
Lol... same here. I am probably still going to install the PBX on the weekend though, since with the PBX it seems less likely to void the warranty. Flashing the ECU just sounds too dangerous, and the BMW technician should definitely be able to see a code or something, even if you flash it back to stock again.
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I badly want dyno sheets for a 325/328 6MT with a 330i intake manifold swap and this tune. Someone make it happen posthaste.
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Lol... same here. I am probably still going to install the PBX on the weekend though, since with the PBX it seems less likely to void the warranty. Flashing the ECU just sounds too dangerous, and the BMW technician should definitely be able to see a code or something, even if you flash it back to stock again.
yeah. mine's going in saturday...can't wait.

this may be oversimplified or just plain wrong, but it seems to me that an engine can only have so much wrung out of it. i would be concerned about the longevity of the engine with anything more than what the pbx does.
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I badly want dyno sheets for a 325/328 6MT with a 330i intake manifold swap and this tune. Someone make it happen posthaste.
Dude we are in the same situation!!! About to pull the trigger on the swap, but completely unsure of what to use as a tune. I'm not spending that much money (Three Stage) for an 8hp gain (without tune), or spend a bunch on an ok tune.
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just got the pbx.....haven't installed it. now you go and tell me this. what do i do?!?
the PbX is a good product and might be enough for you, if you want more its always here. at least try it out id say, and then go from there.
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Dude we are in the same situation!!! About to pull the trigger on the swap, but completely unsure of what to use as a tune. I'm not spending that much money (Three Stage) for an 8hp gain (without tune), or spend a bunch on an ok tune.
ok guys, send me the parts, i will do the swap and dyno it, then send it back to whoever. that person will also get a special rate on the tune itself.
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the PbX is a good product and might be enough for you, if you want more its always here. at least try it out id say, and then go from there.
you almost sound like a drug dealer when you say that

i'm always up for more, but i never like to be the first on the boat, ya know.
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you almost sound like a drug dealer when you say that

i'm always up for more, but i never like to be the first on the boat, ya know.
lol Drug addiction... Mod addiction? close enough

there are about 6 people running them so far including me
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Haha...yea, I'm addicted to modding too!

Craven, you were saying we can even have a map based on octane rating. Here up North we can fill up with 94 Octane at Sunoco. It's all I use in my 330i. What would the "universal" map be based on? Given there are so many 323i, 325i, 328i and 330i drivers out there, there's an indefinite number of combinations of mods. Say I added some octane boost to my gas for track weekend and I had a map for 94 octane, will the map max out based on 94 octane or ...I dunno. I don't really know how to put it...I guess that's why I'm asking and eagerly anticipating a final product for my 330i.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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lol Drug addiction... Mod addiction? close enough

there are about 6 people running them so far including me
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Lol love the name..

The standard tune is based on 91 octane.

But a map can be tailored for a 93-94 octane, 100 octane, whatever, it will be an extra pony or two depending on the car. but i would think at a point out NA cars can only do so much with octane..

also I would try and find a race gas provider out there, dont use octane booster




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Haha...yea, I'm addicted to modding too!

Craven, you were saying we can even have a map based on octane rating. Here up North we can fill up with 94 Octane at Sunoco. It's all I use in my 330i. What would the "universal" map be based on? Given there are so many 323i, 325i, 328i and 330i drivers out there, there's an indefinite number of combinations of mods. Say I added some octane boost to my gas for track weekend and I had a map for 94 octane, will the map max out based on 94 octane or ...I dunno. I don't really know how to put it...I guess that's why I'm asking and eagerly anticipating a final product for my 330i.

Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks.
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10whp and 14wtq? with maximum difference of 15whp in mid-range? thats very impressive.
How many extra whp/wtq do you think you can pump out with an intake system?
I remember reading something about tuning specifically for 325/328/330 with intake if extra few horses are desired.

I can't wait to see the results on 330i. I wish I was in cali, I would let you guys keep my car for a week.
What is the speculated dyno release for 330i?
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ok guys, send me the parts, i will do the swap and dyno it, then send it back to whoever. that person will also get a special rate on the tune itself.
Are you saying that if someone sent you all the parts for the swap, you would do the swap, dyno, remove and return parts in exchange for a "tester discount"? I think that is a pretty interesting proposition. I don't have the parts (yet) but Aonarch does.

Have you talked to Marcelo (E90Pilot) yet? He has done this swap on a 325i and is looking for a tune..
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      05-07-2010, 08:16 AM   #101
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Awaiting a tune and dyno for 330i here!!! I have 6mt, so just care about engine tuning, not transmission shift points, converter lock-up, etc. if it does that as well.

Someone explain the tune development process to me. I'm very experienced with tunes in my old Ford F-150 and there were guys out there that wrote some great tunes. It seems the only difference between them was how well they could interpret dyno data and come up with fuel/air ratios, throttle mapping, and torque converter lock-up. It was an art, really. Could those same guys write a tune for BMWs or is the software language different as well. Just wondering, because some of those guys did seemingly amazing things.
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Lol... same here. I am probably still going to install the PBX on the weekend though, since with the PBX it seems less likely to void the warranty. Flashing the ECU just sounds too dangerous, and the BMW technician should definitely be able to see a code or something, even if you flash it back to stock again.
I ran a REVO flash on my old VW 1.8t, which, obviously I know is not an E90, however, the technicians never once figured it out since I reflashed it each time I went in for service. I would worry less about a flash tune (stick it in, turn it on) than the PBX install (fat finger something.... OOPS) and since I just installed my PBX I can say that it's not a big deal to do so.
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Can't freaking wait for the 330i version and Dyno.
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10whp and 14wtq? with maximum difference of 15whp in mid-range? thats very impressive.
How many extra whp/wtq do you think you can pump out with an intake system?
I remember reading something about tuning specifically for 325/328/330 with intake if extra few horses are desired.

I can't wait to see the results on 330i. I wish I was in cali, I would let you guys keep my car for a week.
What is the speculated dyno release for 330i?
Yes it can be optimized to allow an intake (I have a few and will be installing them and running tunes fr them so we dont have a huge back up of map requests.)

once we get a local to come in with 330 you will have numbers for the dyno, out tester runs got deleted when the dyno computers hard drive went down, mine were on the new hard drive after the issue.

locals with a 330 PM me for a special rate on the tune we can re-dyno your car
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Are you saying that if someone sent you all the parts for the swap, you would do the swap, dyno, remove and return parts in exchange for a "tester discount"? I think that is a pretty interesting proposition. I don't have the parts (yet) but Aonarch does.

Have you talked to Marcelo (E90Pilot) yet? He has done this swap on a 325i and is looking for a tune..
Exactly,
im not interested in keeping your parts, but for the sake of knowing I would test it and send the owner everything back, along with a discounted tune.

I did talk to e90Pilot, he is up state in Oakland but if he can make the drive down - I want to fix his car and get you guys a real solution with numbers - we will see.


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and no a 330 tune will not work on a 325, good try though
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Goddammit someone come in with a 325i
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Goddammit someone come in with a 325i
We have it ready and available for the 325
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Exactly,
im not interested in keeping your parts, but for the sake of knowing I would test it and send the owner everything back, along with a discounted tune.

I did talk to e90Pilot, he is up state in Oakland but if he can make the drive down - I want to fix his car and get you guys a real solution with numbers - we will see.


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and no a 330 tune will not work on a 325, good try though
Very interesting. Looking forward to numbers on the swap!
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