AA xede vs sflgator procede v2 (with vids)

vAnt826 · 10-31-2007, 02:11 AM

I think anyone who has been following this PROcede vs AA debate is logical enough to understand that a V2 would destroy an Xede.

In my personal experience with the 335i, heat soak is more then a difference of 1-2 cars to 100mph+. It has also been said that the V2 started in 4th gear going 50? Even 2nd gear can go past 65mph, he should of been at most in 3rd.

Lets try this again with no heat soak and no gear problems and see what happens.

horsedjump · 10-31-2007, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vAnt826

I think anyone who has been following this PROcede vs AA debate is logical enough to understand that a V2 would destroy an Xede.

In my personal experience with the 335i, heat soak is more then a difference of 1-2 cars to 100mph+. It has also been said that the V2 started in 4th gear going 50? Even 2nd gear can go past 65mph, he should of been at most in 3rd.

Lets try this again with no heat soak and no gear problems and see what happens.

I disagree. Sounds like an excuse. I bet the results will be the same.

Jonmartin · 10-31-2007, 03:20 AM

I really really really want to race an Xede car I want to see one try to hand me my ass like that I really do I don't even have V2. Something is just completly off about this I know xede is comparable to a Procede V1.47 but it's for sure not about to blow the doors of a Procede car.SO unless Gator started in like 4th gear lol or the Xede car was running NOS that wasn't supposed to happen. This is not a hater post btw This is A request to try that again with my 6Mt coupe with stock DP's and exhaust and v 1.47. Whos up for this in LA? And while were at it where the nearest JBS2 to jump in on this ?PM me

stillclaimndp · 10-31-2007, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by horsedjump

I disagree. Sounds like an excuse. I bet the results will be the same.

is this based on... what? george bush philosophy? just make a claim and stick to it?

j|rz44 · 10-31-2007, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

is this based on... what? george bush philosophy? just make a claim and stick to it?

Dont bash GB to make a point man....
No Politics

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Just Fast Cars

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per · 10-31-2007, 07:12 AM

There is one thing to have in mind, and that is the punch in the back when hitting the floor in a manual car.
I noticed at the m5board event that I had a big advantage, we did rolling starts from 50Km/h (30 miles)
I started I 2 gear 3000rpm and hade a lot of torque/Hp available, when I hit the floor it felt like someone hit me in the back with a sledgehammer.
When I did a good start I often gained 1-2cl at once, but I also did get some extra km/h (miles) which I could take advantage of the whole race.
Take a look later when videos are out, you will se what I mean, for example the difference between977 turbo orM3 god start /M5 touring Bad start
This was the first time I ever raced, so I am no expert but I believe the tuned 335 turbo motor give us all a benefit with this

Crazy Bimmer · 10-31-2007, 07:16 AM

Oh one thing, why doesnt the Xede car with catless DPs sound bad? It doesnt sound like WalkU's car did when he had DPs.......

vip_tuning · 10-31-2007, 07:32 AM

lucky the blue machine was'nt present,then it would've been double take... hands down on xede

wahoo · 10-31-2007, 07:54 AM

This is exactly why you wait to buy a product when there is healthy competition.

I'm not a shill, but AA has been tuning cars since Shiv was in preschool. I think they know what they are doing. Likewise, Shiv has obviously proved his merits in other marques.

This is a great discussion - I hope everyone keeps its civil. SFlGator--> an Atlanta Gator here, tough times with our defense.

NYCGarbagePrince · 10-31-2007, 08:10 AM

Because Bimmerman spent the time to actually work with an exhaust shop to produce a nice sounding exhaust. Not just throw products at his car. And stop making excuses for gator who doesn't need excuses. HIS CAR IS FAST. V2 is working properly. The car is fine. But it is not the difference maker everyone is building it up to be. This just shows that marketing can truly warp peoples understanding of a product. Anyone in S.Fl that wants to feel what these cars are like send me a PM and I will take you for a ride that will rival V2 or anything else you have ridden in. One more thing....

South Florida is AA Xede Country....

NYCGarbagePrince · 10-31-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by vip_tuning

lucky the blue machine was'nt present,then it would've been double take... hands down on xede

Vip Tuning's car is an auto with Xede and I am 100% that it would have had very similar results...This is what people call a reality check.

turbojet3 · 10-31-2007, 08:38 AM

I call BS.
Bimmerman has several post inthe "who has Nitrous ?" thread. Claiming his is in the works.

bimmermans54 · 10-31-2007, 08:38 AM

Things here really began to go astray. I am not pointing out, or saying in anyway that v2 is bad, slow, and if you have it, you got screwed. His car is fast, I put that remark in many of the posts in this thread.
--------If you want me to be honest with you, I think my car was faster with my cats in my DP! All I know is one thing, AA is family to me, everyone of them. Anytime I call, they bend over backwards for me, and anyone that I know that deals with them, and now a days, that sets the benchmark. If your ever in south florida, go visit them. They have an amazing shop, people that know their stuff, and you just feel welcome when your there.

----See, I have learned my lesson, many cars ago, I went with another companies product, they were called RMS in cali. I had nothing but problems with that car, and AA was there to help me, and make my product even better then RMS could. That meant the world to me

bimmermans54 · 10-31-2007, 08:39 AM

Turbojet is it? Call anything you want. Come check my car, your so sure, anytime!

hotrod2448 · 10-31-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmermans54

keep it on topic, SFLGATOR hasnt done anything wrong. This is about AA and vishnu. Sorry to bring this on to you SFLGATOR..

No, it's about a car with more mods and a tune to take advantage of them being clearly faster than one with less mods and one that people have overhyped. Pretty straight forward there.

Pretty much EOS.

The way you keep going on though it sounds like you clearly have an agenda and discredits what you say IMO.

turbojet3 · 10-31-2007, 08:50 AM

Oh, mine is already in the works, I am just seeing if anyone has anyluck, or advice...

You started the thread. your words, not mine.

Your are not the first to have nitrous and deny it.

I am not at all interested in checking your car. Your prior posts are there
for everyone to see.

sflgator · 10-31-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SfValley335i

You said earlier that your car is always around 245 deg even when running it hard.... That means you really dont need the oil cooler...

I only read half of the posts but I see everyone talking about the xede car with DP's blah blah.... slfgator has those super light wheels and tires....

I NEVER run that hot (@265 degrees F...usually sitting tight at 235-245 degrees F) and I had just taken NYCGarbagePrince for a spirited drive in my car only minutes before our run w/ Bimmermans54.

sflgator · 10-31-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by e92law

I bet this has something to do with V2 de-tuning so quickly as the car heats up. Go back out there with the 2.02 that is out later this week. See my other posts. After beating on V2 for 5 minutes I was unable to see a difference v. stock. Easy to test because of the Valet setting.

I would love to download v2.0.2 but we don't have that map from Shiv yet. Plus, my car has been a little finicky when pushed too hard (w/ higher boost).

bimmermans54 · 10-31-2007, 09:03 AM

I dont care what my prior posts say. Am I not allowed to ask to see if anyone has done nitrous, and yes mine is in the works, is even 1 peice on my car? Do you think that you can just slap any nitrous kit on a bmw? You need to do major research, because bmws are not easy to work with nitrous. Have anyone you want check my car, top to bottom, no secrets.
HOTROD2448- Bro, give it up. Seriously, extra mods...I cut out my cats, replaced it with pipe, not mandrel bent, and have magnaflow glasspacks. WOW, that is earth moving amount of mods compared to SFLGATOR. I still say that the car is faster WITH the cats in the dps. I could understand if I had RISS RACING 3" dps, and AA's full mandrel bent exhaust, but I have what I did at a local exhaust shop, so its really not that big of a deal!

sflgator · 10-31-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wahoo

This is exactly why you wait to buy a product when there is healthy competition.

I'm not a shill, but AA has been tuning cars since Shiv was in preschool. I think they know what they are doing. Likewise, Shiv has obviously proved his merits in other marques.

This is a great discussion - I hope everyone keeps its civil. SFlGator--> an Atlanta Gator here, tough times with our defense.

Oh please, I don't even want to talk about that...3 losses; they're done!

bimmermans54 · 10-31-2007, 09:07 AM

Why do people need to be so negative? Maybe SFLGATORS car will run better on different v2 settings, maybe the 2nd oil cooler, which WILL help will make a huge difference... We are just out having fun, and I am trying to show that AA makes aquality product, because all I see on this forum is people bashing them. I keep saying that SFLGATORS car is FAST, it is, no doubt, I am not bashing shiv, well I am on the customer service part, out of my 9 calls, never got 1 back but still, this is about the product...
Again, SFLGATOR, my bad for putting you though this mud slide. It was a bad call, I thought it would have had a different outcome. Let me know if you need help with th oil cooler!

turbojet3 · 10-31-2007, 09:08 AM

My research is done. You have been exposed.

10-31-2007, 02:11 AM	#199
vAnt826 Major 63 Rep 1,417 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle iTrader: (3)	I think anyone who has been following this PROcede vs AA debate is logical enough to understand that a V2 would destroy an Xede. In my personal experience with the 335i, heat soak is more then a difference of 1-2 cars to 100mph+. It has also been said that the V2 started in 4th gear going 50? Even 2nd gear can go past 65mph, he should of been at most in 3rd. Lets try this again with no heat soak and no gear problems and see what happens.
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10-31-2007, 03:20 AM	#201
Jonmartin Banned 121 Rep 2,097 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angles (818) iTrader: (1)	I really really really want to race an Xede car I want to see one try to hand me my ass like that I really do I don't even have V2. Something is just completly off about this I know xede is comparable to a Procede V1.47 but it's for sure not about to blow the doors of a Procede car.SO unless Gator started in like 4th gear lol or the Xede car was running NOS that wasn't supposed to happen. This is not a hater post btw This is A request to try that again with my 6Mt coupe with stock DP's and exhaust and v 1.47. Whos up for this in LA? And while were at it where the nearest JBS2 to jump in on this ?PM me
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10-31-2007, 07:12 AM	#204
per Lieutenant 47 Rep 507 Posts Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Gothenburg iTrader: (0)	There is one thing to have in mind, and that is the punch in the back when hitting the floor in a manual car. I noticed at the m5board event that I had a big advantage, we did rolling starts from 50Km/h (30 miles) I started I 2 gear 3000rpm and hade a lot of torque/Hp available, when I hit the floor it felt like someone hit me in the back with a sledgehammer. When I did a good start I often gained 1-2cl at once, but I also did get some extra km/h (miles) which I could take advantage of the whole race. Take a look later when videos are out, you will se what I mean, for example the difference between977 turbo orM3 god start /M5 touring Bad start This was the first time I ever raced, so I am no expert but I believe the tuned 335 turbo motor give us all a benefit with this __________________ M3 E92 ESS VT-625
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Crazy Bimmer The Jesal 391 Rep 5,859 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (20) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	Oh one thing, why doesnt the Xede car with catless DPs sound bad? It doesnt sound like WalkU's car did when he had DPs....... __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
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10-31-2007, 07:32 AM	#206
vip_tuning Private 7 Rep 84 Posts Drives: 07' 335i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: parkland,florida iTrader: (0)	lucky the blue machine was'nt present,then it would've been double take... hands down on xede
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10-31-2007, 07:54 AM	#207
wahoo Bangin' my head against the wall 15 Rep 460 Posts Drives: '08 335i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: atlanta iTrader: (0)	This is exactly why you wait to buy a product when there is healthy competition. I'm not a shill, but AA has been tuning cars since Shiv was in preschool. I think they know what they are doing. Likewise, Shiv has obviously proved his merits in other marques. This is a great discussion - I hope everyone keeps its civil. SFlGator--> an Atlanta Gator here, tough times with our defense.
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10-31-2007, 08:10 AM	#208
NYCGarbagePrince Major 243 Rep 1,435 Posts Drives: X6 50i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	Because Bimmerman spent the time to actually work with an exhaust shop to produce a nice sounding exhaust. Not just throw products at his car. And stop making excuses for gator who doesn't need excuses. HIS CAR IS FAST. V2 is working properly. The car is fine. But it is not the difference maker everyone is building it up to be. This just shows that marketing can truly warp peoples understanding of a product. Anyone in S.Fl that wants to feel what these cars are like send me a PM and I will take you for a ride that will rival V2 or anything else you have ridden in. One more thing.... South Florida is AA Xede Country....
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10-31-2007, 08:38 AM	#210
turbojet3 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: C. FL. iTrader: (0)	I call BS. Bimmerman has several post inthe "who has Nitrous ?" thread. Claiming his is in the works.
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10-31-2007, 08:38 AM	#211
bimmermans54 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: boca raton iTrader: (0)	Things here really began to go astray. I am not pointing out, or saying in anyway that v2 is bad, slow, and if you have it, you got screwed. His car is fast, I put that remark in many of the posts in this thread. --------If you want me to be honest with you, I think my car was faster with my cats in my DP! All I know is one thing, AA is family to me, everyone of them. Anytime I call, they bend over backwards for me, and anyone that I know that deals with them, and now a days, that sets the benchmark. If your ever in south florida, go visit them. They have an amazing shop, people that know their stuff, and you just feel welcome when your there. ----See, I have learned my lesson, many cars ago, I went with another companies product, they were called RMS in cali. I had nothing but problems with that car, and AA was there to help me, and make my product even better then RMS could. That meant the world to me
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10-31-2007, 08:39 AM	#212
bimmermans54 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: boca raton iTrader: (0)	Turbojet is it? Call anything you want. Come check my car, your so sure, anytime!
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10-31-2007, 08:50 AM	#214
turbojet3 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: C. FL. iTrader: (0)	Oh, mine is already in the works, I am just seeing if anyone has anyluck, or advice... You started the thread. your words, not mine. Your are not the first to have nitrous and deny it. I am not at all interested in checking your car. Your prior posts are there for everyone to see.
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10-31-2007, 09:03 AM	#217
bimmermans54 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: boca raton iTrader: (0)	I dont care what my prior posts say. Am I not allowed to ask to see if anyone has done nitrous, and yes mine is in the works, is even 1 peice on my car? Do you think that you can just slap any nitrous kit on a bmw? You need to do major research, because bmws are not easy to work with nitrous. Have anyone you want check my car, top to bottom, no secrets. HOTROD2448- Bro, give it up. Seriously, extra mods...I cut out my cats, replaced it with pipe, not mandrel bent, and have magnaflow glasspacks. WOW, that is earth moving amount of mods compared to SFLGATOR. I still say that the car is faster WITH the cats in the dps. I could understand if I had RISS RACING 3" dps, and AA's full mandrel bent exhaust, but I have what I did at a local exhaust shop, so its really not that big of a deal!
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10-31-2007, 09:07 AM	#219
bimmermans54 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 228 Posts Drives: 335 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: boca raton iTrader: (0)	Why do people need to be so negative? Maybe SFLGATORS car will run better on different v2 settings, maybe the 2nd oil cooler, which WILL help will make a huge difference... We are just out having fun, and I am trying to show that AA makes aquality product, because all I see on this forum is people bashing them. I keep saying that SFLGATORS car is FAST, it is, no doubt, I am not bashing shiv, well I am on the customer service part, out of my 9 calls, never got 1 back but still, this is about the product... Again, SFLGATOR, my bad for putting you though this mud slide. It was a bad call, I thought it would have had a different outcome. Let me know if you need help with th oil cooler!
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10-31-2007, 09:08 AM	#220
turbojet3 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: C. FL. iTrader: (0)	My research is done. You have been exposed.
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