Need your honest feedback about BMWCCA

arter · 11-02-2013, 11:29 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? gvc

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? 3-4 track events per year across several clubs, several ax events, no meetings

9. Open comment / suggestion. pretty happy with the club: cheap track events with great instruction, discounts on new cars and parts

Worra · 11-02-2013, 11:39 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?
Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?
Golden Gate Chapter

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
Not yet - just got my weekends back from crazy-work-times

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?
Cars and Coffee more often, other small events like short drives plus a lunch or something.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?
Larger scale meets like oktoberfest and so on.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?
Not sure

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?
Of course!

9. Open comment / suggestion

Nate4641 · 11-02-2013, 12:50 PM

I became a member last year only to do 1 autocross while I was home. I'm stationed overseas so once I come back to the states it might be better use to me. Until then I enjoy the reading material, but the membership does nothing for me.

RoundelM3 · 11-02-2013, 02:40 PM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? I am a member of the Tejas Chapter (Central & South TX)

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? N/A

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? I have attended nearly every event with Tejas Chapter for the past 6 years.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? We do driving events to destinations as well as some track activities. I would like to see some social and driving events local to either Austin or San Antonio areas, as most of our members are in one area or the other and it's not always convenient to drive 80-100 miles to attend an event in the "other" city.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? We already have the yearly Octoberfest which is held in different cities each year.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? CCA already supports the BMW Foundation and the Street Survival driving schools for teenagers.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? BMW CCA's Roundel Magazine and its national website provide classified ads for cars as well as parts, particularly for hard-to-find items.

9. Open comment / suggestion. This is a great club, and members who participate in the events, both as attendees and planning/leading them, get a lot of enjoyment from the social aspect as well as the technical and driving parts. Some chapters tend to focus on track- or autocross-related events, and not everyone cares to participate in those activities, so diversifying the event schedule is something that should be looked into, with alternative social and driving events.

quadpipes · 11-02-2013, 02:47 PM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? YES

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? BAYOU CHAPTER (La)

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? NO

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? MOST CHAPTER ACTIVITIES ARE 2+ HOURS AWAY (I live in MS) - SO HARDER TO ATTEND

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? I AM QUITE HAPPY WITH BMWCCA AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? I DO LIKE THE SUPPORT BMWCCA GIVES TO YOUTH DRIVING PROGRAMS - KEEP THAT UP. MY DAUGHTER IS 13 AND WILL DEF BE DOING THE YOUTH DRIVING SCHOOL AT PDS in G-S, SC. WE (she and I) HAVE ALREADY VISITED THERE AND SHE IS FIRED UP.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? NO OPINION.

9. Open comment / suggestion. LOVE ROUNDEL. MIKE MILLER IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO BMW AND SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING (HE ALSO WRITES FOR BIMMER). CHECK HIM OUT IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. REBATE PROGRAM ALONE IS ENOUGH TO JOIN - I HAVE USED IT TWICE.

Pyrat 2 · 11-02-2013, 04:11 PM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?
Yes. Since 2006

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?
Windy City Chapter

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?
NA

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
Yes. Windy City too many to count. Badger and Buckeye HPDE events too.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?
I'm all but HPDE events. I've done autocross many times but the track_time/total_time ratio is so low I lost interest.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?
I have gone to many BMWCCA Octoberfests. I skipped this year as it was in CA. Too far. I would like to see more HPDEs. I think BMWCCA should consider some regional HPDEs. The local chapters are having a hard time making ends meet and having some events for multiple chapters in an area instead of each chapter trying to host them might be worth a look.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?
Continue the discount parts program - a must for any enthusiast. Continue the new car rebate program.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?

Not sure I understand.

9. Open comment / suggestion.

I spent quite a bit of time with the windy city chapter pres. at the last HPDE event. She indicated that all the clubs are having a hard time making ends meet. She indicated that almost 60+% of BMWs are now leased so attendance is down. Leasees don't want to modify or risk their cars at the tracks. As suggested I think the BMWCCA should consider some regional events and some coordination of schedules. This would help make sure that HPDE events are full.

NorthernDancer · 11-02-2013, 07:07 PM

1. yes
2. GVC
3. n/a
4. yes, every monthly meeting
5. DIY, inspections
6. 3 or 4 chapter car meet in May or September
7. DIY
8. no, we're well served already by BMW parts specialists
9. love, love, love Roundel especially Tech Talk by Mike Miller. I'm not a rich guy so have to do as much as I can myself hence always interested in DIY. Bav Auto in Portsmouth NH serves me so very well.

KevinC · 11-02-2013, 09:41 PM

I've been a member since '06, also joined for the rebate, and have received them on 2 cars now, including my Z4MC. I stick around in case I ever buy another new one (seems more and more unlikely as the brand evolves, unfortunately) and because I LOVE Roundel, it's by far my favorite (and most useful) car rag. Worth the annual membership cost IMHO.

J38 · 11-03-2013, 07:14 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? No

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Tarheel BMWCCA

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? Cost/benefit. I planned to a few years ago, but they cut out Roadside Assistance and thus one of the major perks I was looking for (even though I've never used it).

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Meets, HPDE

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Mod and maintenance meets.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Roadside included or at reduced cost.

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Are they hard to come by now?

9. Open comment / suggestion.
Honestly the cancellation of the Roadside Assistance program was a big letdown for me. I know they brought it back through a third party, with all kinds of limitations, etc. But that discourages a lot of people from joining when they can get another service (AAA, etc) for less money. I can get the same benefits by using my own roadside, these forums, and Cars N Coffee than I can get with CCA, at half the cost? That's a hard sell if you ask me. I mean, it's cheaper to join BMWCCA and get AAA than it is to buy roadside through your CCA membership? That's just not competitive.

It's disappointing, too, because the local owners I've met are a fun and enthusiastic group. The owners of older BMWs and track cars are an especially interesting bunch. I spoke to quite a few of them at the local dealer g2g 4-5 years ago and they were great people who owned great cars.

gtMc · 11-03-2013, 09:38 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?

Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?

NJ

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?

Yes - a few monthly meetings and a few HPDEs so far.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?

DIY instructional clinics would be incredible. Even if it were the just 2 or 3 next most commonly needed after how to change oil, such as how to change brake pads and flush fluids, etc etc. not looking to be taught how to change bearings or looking to take major biz away from INdys or dealerships here.

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?

Seems like these are pretty good as it is.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?

street survival is great, perhaps expanding this, something that fills the gap between basic defensive driving and an HPDE. perhaps street survival for adults?

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?

that never hurts

9. Open comment / suggestion.[/QUOTE]

overall the club is good - Roundel is awesome, and I think the members of my local chapter and DelVal are all fantastic people from what I have experienced at HPDEs. If I didn't work 80 hrs a week I would be able to attend more meetings and dedicate more time helping the chapter.

Bimmer Barney · 11-03-2013, 09:57 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Los Angeles

3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? No, because I live in Santa Barbara and driving to LA isn't worth it.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Local drives, get involved with Santa Barbara Cars and Coffee. Santa Barbara has some of the nicest roads in CA and it would be great to have some like minded enthusiast to go drive with (NOT RACE).

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Don't care

9. Open comment / suggestion.
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m3dragon · 11-03-2013, 10:12 AM

Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data.

I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as the “the club is what you make of it”.

The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year.

Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads.

I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands.

Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested.

m3dragon · 11-03-2013, 10:14 AM

Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data.

I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as the “the club is what you make of it”.

The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year.

Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads.

I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands.

Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested.

m3dragon · 11-03-2013, 10:16 AM

Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data.

I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as “the club is what you make of it”.

The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year.

Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads.

I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands.

Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested.

m3dragon · 11-03-2013, 10:17 AM

Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data.

I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as “the club is what you make of it”.

The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year.

Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads.

I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands.

Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested.

m3dragon · 11-03-2013, 10:19 AM

Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data.

I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as “the club is what you make of it”.

The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year.

Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads.

I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands.

Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested.

socalm3lover · 11-03-2013, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3dragon

Please keep the club recruitment off these post. This is not the time and place. I would request you edit your post to remove this please.

Bad taste.

You should take a pill, it might be nice to keep it pure, but the thread jack, etc is a big over reaction. Sounds like some of the fuddy, control freaks running the club.

John

TheSt|G · 11-04-2013, 06:43 AM

They are missing the underlying issue of BMW no longer making enthusiast cars.

Long time CCA member.

Ghetto2315 · 11-04-2013, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjposner

To those who are not members here are some reasons to join:

15% dealer discount
$500-$1,500 rebate on almost any new BMW (got 1k when I bought my wife an X3)
Roundel magazine (excellent club mag, finest I have seen)
Local Chapter events

I saw no issue with this. Just stating facts. For those people who are not members might find this welcoming. On any rate...

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes. Yes, I am

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? New Jersey Chapter

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes, meetings and events with the most recently the Road & Track Magazine's #UN4GETTABLE Event for the 4-Series debut.

5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? I would actually like to see them collaborate with other clubs as well. Also, have more events on Sundays for the people who work every Saturday!

6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Organize a meet at BMW NA at Woodcliff Lakes. I am fortunate enough that I work for BMW and also live in NJ but for the other chapters not close, I think it would great for them to get a chance to visit and take a tour.

7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? N/A

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? N/A

9. Open comment / suggestion. For a measly $48 per year to sign up, just the Roundel Magazine you get is worth it alone. I have made 20+ new friends/enthusiasts from joining. That is priceless

RoundelM3 · 11-04-2013, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSt|G

They are missing the underlying issue of BMW no longer making enthusiast cars.

Long time CCA member.

I disagree completely - your definition of "enthusiast cars" differs from that of other members. But aside from that, what does the fact that BMW no longer builds E30s have to do with anything? Nobody in my chapter considers that an "issue", as we have quite a cross-section of models, all of which their owners consider to be their vision of an "enthusiast car". That's the common thread.

shydcstyle · 11-04-2013, 08:51 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently?
Yes

2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)?
National Capital Chapter
3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining?

4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter?
Yes
5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area?
Our chapter is pretty active, love the Bimmerfest East
6. What activities would you like to see on a national level?
October Fest
7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support?

8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects?

9. Open comment / suggestion.

Bill B. · 11-04-2013, 09:01 AM

1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? ** Yes
2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? ** Tarheel
3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? ** N/A
4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? ** No
5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? ** I always thought I would like to go to repair clinics (though I've never went. Almost did once)
6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? ** Don't know
7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? ** Don't know
8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? ** Don't know.
9. Open comment / suggestion. ** Frankly, I joined the club for the Roundel and the purchase discount.

11-02-2013, 11:29 AM	#45
arter collecting toys 41 Rep 810 Posts Drives: M3 MCB Join Date: May 2008 Location: rochester, ny iTrader: (1)	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? yes 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? gvc 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? 3-4 track events per year across several clubs, several ax events, no meetings 9. Open comment / suggestion. pretty happy with the club: cheap track events with great instruction, discounts on new cars and parts __________________ 2011 e92 M3 Monte Carlo Blue ESS 535 - gone but not forgotten 2015 cayman GTS - new toy 2006 SLK 55 AMG sold
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11-02-2013, 11:39 AM	#46
Worra Captain 49 Rep 970 Posts Drives: 2013 135is/6, 1995 540i/6 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: SF Bay iTrader: (0) Garage List 1995 BMW 540i [0.00] 2013 BMW 135is [0.00]	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Golden Gate Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Not yet - just got my weekends back from crazy-work-times 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Cars and Coffee more often, other small events like short drives plus a lunch or something. 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Larger scale meets like oktoberfest and so on. 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Not sure 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Of course! 9. Open comment / suggestion __________________ 2013 Black Sapphire 135is (526/586) 1995 Jet Black 540i Past cars: 94 530i, 95 530iT, 09 328i, 90 325i
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11-02-2013, 12:50 PM	#47
Nate4641 Major 151 Rep 1,134 Posts Drives: '07 M Roadster Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Warner Robins, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW Z4 M Roadster [0.00]	I became a member last year only to do 1 autocross while I was home. I'm stationed overseas so once I come back to the states it might be better use to me. Until then I enjoy the reading material, but the membership does nothing for me. __________________ My build/adventure thread
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11-02-2013, 02:40 PM	#48
RoundelM3 Major General 1833 Rep 6,987 Posts Drives: 15 F80 M3, 22 G01 X3 30i Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wendell, NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2022 BMW X3 [9.83] 2015 BMW M3 [6.50]	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? I am a member of the Tejas Chapter (Central & South TX) 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? N/A 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? I have attended nearly every event with Tejas Chapter for the past 6 years. 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? We do driving events to destinations as well as some track activities. I would like to see some social and driving events local to either Austin or San Antonio areas, as most of our members are in one area or the other and it's not always convenient to drive 80-100 miles to attend an event in the "other" city. 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? We already have the yearly Octoberfest which is held in different cities each year. 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? CCA already supports the BMW Foundation and the Street Survival driving schools for teenagers. 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? BMW CCA's Roundel Magazine and its national website provide classified ads for cars as well as parts, particularly for hard-to-find items. 9. Open comment / suggestion. This is a great club, and members who participate in the events, both as attendees and planning/leading them, get a lot of enjoyment from the social aspect as well as the technical and driving parts. Some chapters tend to focus on track- or autocross-related events, and not everyone cares to participate in those activities, so diversifying the event schedule is something that should be looked into, with alternative social and driving events. __________________ 2015 F80 ///M3 Sedan 7DCT Tanzanite, 2022 X3 sDrive30i 8AT Brooklyn Grey
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11-02-2013, 02:47 PM	#49
quadpipes First Lieutenant 17 Rep 318 Posts Drives: '11 E92 M3 IB,'16 F22 M235i EB Join Date: May 2009 Location: Missippi USofA iTrader: (0)	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? YES 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? BAYOU CHAPTER (La) 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? NO 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? MOST CHAPTER ACTIVITIES ARE 2+ HOURS AWAY (I live in MS) - SO HARDER TO ATTEND 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? I AM QUITE HAPPY WITH BMWCCA AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? I DO LIKE THE SUPPORT BMWCCA GIVES TO YOUTH DRIVING PROGRAMS - KEEP THAT UP. MY DAUGHTER IS 13 AND WILL DEF BE DOING THE YOUTH DRIVING SCHOOL AT PDS in G-S, SC. WE (she and I) HAVE ALREADY VISITED THERE AND SHE IS FIRED UP. 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? NO OPINION. 9. Open comment / suggestion. LOVE ROUNDEL. MIKE MILLER IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET TO BMW AND SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING (HE ALSO WRITES FOR BIMMER). CHECK HIM OUT IF YOU HAVEN"T ALREADY. REBATE PROGRAM ALONE IS ENOUGH TO JOIN - I HAVE USED IT TWICE.
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11-02-2013, 04:11 PM	#50
Pyrat 2 Colonel 1418 Rep 2,560 Posts Drives: Rapidly from A to B Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago 'burbs or TN Smokies iTrader: (3) Garage List 2022 Porsche GT4 [9.64] 2018 Porsche GT3 [9.33] 2007 Z4 M Roadster [8.33] 2020 BMW X1 [0.00]	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes. Since 2006 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Windy City Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? NA 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes. Windy City too many to count. Badger and Buckeye HPDE events too. 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? I'm all but HPDE events. I've done autocross many times but the track_time/total_time ratio is so low I lost interest. 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? I have gone to many BMWCCA Octoberfests. I skipped this year as it was in CA. Too far. I would like to see more HPDEs. I think BMWCCA should consider some regional HPDEs. The local chapters are having a hard time making ends meet and having some events for multiple chapters in an area instead of each chapter trying to host them might be worth a look. 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Continue the discount parts program - a must for any enthusiast. Continue the new car rebate program. 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Not sure I understand. 9. Open comment / suggestion. I spent quite a bit of time with the windy city chapter pres. at the last HPDE event. She indicated that all the clubs are having a hard time making ends meet. She indicated that almost 60+% of BMWs are now leased so attendance is down. Leasees don't want to modify or risk their cars at the tracks. As suggested I think the BMWCCA should consider some regional events and some coordination of schedules. This would help make sure that HPDE events are full.
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11-02-2013, 07:07 PM	#51
NorthernDancer Colonel 848 Rep 2,276 Posts Drives: 08 Sedona 128 & 06 330xiT 6MT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ottawa On Canada iTrader: (3)	1. yes 2. GVC 3. n/a 4. yes, every monthly meeting 5. DIY, inspections 6. 3 or 4 chapter car meet in May or September 7. DIY 8. no, we're well served already by BMW parts specialists 9. love, love, love Roundel especially Tech Talk by Mike Miller. I'm not a rich guy so have to do as much as I can myself hence always interested in DIY. Bav Auto in Portsmouth NH serves me so very well.
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11-02-2013, 09:41 PM	#52
KevinC your average JAMF 3088 Rep 4,090 Posts Drives: '21 M2 Comp, '19 Golf R Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cochise County, AZ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 VW Golf R [0.00] 2021 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00]	I've been a member since '06, also joined for the rebate, and have received them on 2 cars now, including my Z4MC. I stick around in case I ever buy another new one (seems more and more unlikely as the brand evolves, unfortunately) and because I LOVE Roundel, it's by far my favorite (and most useful) car rag. Worth the annual membership cost IMHO. __________________ '21 M2 Comp '19 Golf R
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11-03-2013, 07:14 AM	#53
J38 BMW Addict 11 Rep 424 Posts Drives: '11 X5 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NC iTrader: (1)	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? No 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Tarheel BMWCCA 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? Cost/benefit. I planned to a few years ago, but they cut out Roadside Assistance and thus one of the major perks I was looking for (even though I've never used it). 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Meets, HPDE 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Mod and maintenance meets. 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Roadside included or at reduced cost. 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Are they hard to come by now? 9. Open comment / suggestion. Honestly the cancellation of the Roadside Assistance program was a big letdown for me. I know they brought it back through a third party, with all kinds of limitations, etc. But that discourages a lot of people from joining when they can get another service (AAA, etc) for less money. I can get the same benefits by using my own roadside, these forums, and Cars N Coffee than I can get with CCA, at half the cost? That's a hard sell if you ask me. I mean, it's cheaper to join BMWCCA and get AAA than it is to buy roadside through your CCA membership? That's just not competitive. It's disappointing, too, because the local owners I've met are a fun and enthusiastic group. The owners of older BMWs and track cars are an especially interesting bunch. I spoke to quite a few of them at the local dealer g2g 4-5 years ago and they were great people who owned great cars. __________________ '07 Z4 3.0iS White/Saddle - Sold \| '05 330 ZHP Silver/Grey - Sold \| '06 330i SGM/Black - Sold \| '07 335i Jet Black/Saddle - Sold Volks are SOLD \| '03 330i ZHP Silver/Grey - Sold \| '11 X5 35i Sparkling Bronze - Sold Last edited by J38; 11-03-2013 at 11:39 AM.. Reason: 'than I can get'... instead of 'that I get'
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11-03-2013, 09:38 AM	#54
gtMc Captain 21 Rep 704 Posts Drives: '08 MC Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NNJ iTrader: (1) Garage List '03 e39 m sport [0.00] '08 mc [0.00]	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? *Yes* 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? NJ 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? *Yes - a few monthly meetings and a few HPDEs so far.* 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? DIY instructional clinics would be incredible. Even if it were the just 2 or 3 next most commonly needed after how to change oil, such as how to change brake pads and flush fluids, etc etc. not looking to be taught how to change bearings or looking to take major biz away from INdys or dealerships here. 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? *Seems like these are pretty good as it is.* 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? *street survival is great, perhaps expanding this, something that fills the gap between basic defensive driving and an HPDE. perhaps street survival for adults?* 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? *that never hurts* 9. Open comment / suggestion.[/QUOTE] overall the club is good - Roundel is awesome, and I think the members of my local chapter and DelVal are all fantastic people from what I have experienced at HPDEs. If I didn't work 80 hrs a week I would be able to attend more meetings and dedicate more time helping the chapter. __________________ ZHP/Zeck CDV/VT engine mounts/RE trans mounts;clutch stop/Stubby
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11-03-2013, 09:57 AM	#55
Bimmer Barney Lieutenant Colonel 1250 Rep 1,502 Posts Drives: 2011.5 E90M ZCP Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California iTrader: (4)	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Los Angeles 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? No, because I live in Santa Barbara and driving to LA isn't worth it. 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Local drives, get involved with Santa Barbara Cars and Coffee. Santa Barbara has some of the nicest roads in CA and it would be great to have some like minded enthusiast to go drive with (NOT RACE). 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Don't care 9. Open comment / suggestion. __________________ __________________ 2011.5 E90 M3 DCT ZCP Slicktop
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11-03-2013, 10:12 AM	#56
m3dragon Colonel 178 Rep 2,051 Posts Drives: CSL M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (1)	Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data. I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as the “the club is what you make of it”. The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year. Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads. I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands. Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested. __________________ NorCal drive organizer guy NorCal CSL build thread - US to CSL Conversion
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11-03-2013, 10:14 AM	#57
m3dragon Colonel 178 Rep 2,051 Posts Drives: CSL M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (1)	Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data. I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as the “the club is what you make of it”. The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year. Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads. I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands. Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested. __________________ NorCal drive organizer guy NorCal CSL build thread - US to CSL Conversion
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11-03-2013, 10:16 AM	#58
m3dragon Colonel 178 Rep 2,051 Posts Drives: CSL M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (1)	Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data. I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as “the club is what you make of it”. The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year. Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads. I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands. Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested. __________________ NorCal drive organizer guy NorCal CSL build thread - US to CSL Conversion
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11-03-2013, 10:17 AM	#59
m3dragon Colonel 178 Rep 2,051 Posts Drives: CSL M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (1)	Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data. I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as “the club is what you make of it”. The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year. Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads. I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands. Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested. __________________ NorCal drive organizer guy NorCal CSL build thread - US to CSL Conversion
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11-03-2013, 10:19 AM	#60
m3dragon Colonel 178 Rep 2,051 Posts Drives: CSL M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (1)	Thank you all that have answered the thread so far. I am going to let the threads run until Nov 8th before I start to compile the data. I wanted to address some of the people who chime in with their post whish could be summed up as “the club is what you make of it”. The point of me doing this was to make the first step to help BMWCCA / chapters change to be in line with the majority of the enthusiast crowd. By no means will things change overnight as that requires more steps but you can’t get there without taking the first one. The replies many of you posted are excellent ideas and in line with what I first suggested to National in May of this year. Last thing I wanted to address is those who posted on some the different forums that are arguing with me about making these threads. I took on this project on my own with the blessing of National because I am an enthusiast like most of you. I also have a unique perspective as I stated a national club run by volunteers that faces the same issues as BMW. I am not getting anything for my time and energy and I chose to use the forums VS. a survey tool so that people could see others replies and comment. So if you feel that me taking my own time and energy to benefit us the BMW enthusiast’s community is something to argue over then I don’t know what to say other than, at least I did something then sit on my hands. Thank you all again for posting and please let others know to chime in so I can present this to National. After Friday I will compile all the replies and post a summary to all the forums with what others have said / suggested. __________________ NorCal drive organizer guy NorCal CSL build thread - US to CSL Conversion
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11-04-2013, 06:43 AM	#62
TheSt\|G Resident Tamed Racing Driver 298 Rep 4,697 Posts Drives: 911, 130is, E39 M5, E36 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Outside Philly iTrader: (2)	They are missing the underlying issue of BMW no longer making enthusiast cars. Long time CCA member.
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11-04-2013, 08:51 AM	#65
shydcstyle New Member 0 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 2010 135i Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 1996 BMW 318Ti [0.00] 2000 BMW 328ci [0.00] 2006 BMW Z4 [0.00] 2010 BMW 135i [0.00]	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? National Capital Chapter 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? Yes 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? Our chapter is pretty active, love the Bimmerfest East 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? October Fest 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? 9. Open comment / suggestion.
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11-04-2013, 09:01 AM	#66
Bill B. Lieutenant 18 Rep 439 Posts Drives: '18 M2, '13 X135i '15 S1000R Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cary, NC iTrader: (0)	1. Are you a BMWCCA member currently? Yes 2. What is your regional club (if you don’t know just say don’t know)? Tarheel 3. If you are not a member, what was the reason for not joining? N/A 4. Have you attended any meeting or event with any BMW chapter? No 5. What are activities you would like to see the BMW chapters do in your area? I always thought I would like to go to repair clinics (though I've never went. Almost did once) 6. What activities would you like to see on a national level? Don't know 7. What type of programs would you like to see BMWCCA support? Don't know 8. Do you want BMWCCA to find ways to help enthusiasts with acquiring parts for projects? Don't know. 9. Open comment / suggestion. ** Frankly, I joined the club for the Roundel and the purchase discount.
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