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11-16-2011, 04:00 PM | #23 | |
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It's a play on words.... They are running very rich, in reference to their air fuel ratio.
For others: I'm not sure why everyone has to make every thread an argument or claim data as worthless or needs to know which is better. There is no right or wrong answer.... look at the data, conclude whatever you want to conclude and move on. Sometimes its really not about which tune is better all the time. Maybe they are all good? Last edited by Jeff@TopGearSolutions; 11-16-2011 at 04:21 PM.. |
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11-16-2011, 05:31 PM | #33 |
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So what is Vishnu logic and reasoning behind the AFR curve that is produced specifically by Procede piggyback? I am not asking for a comparison with other tunes. This will only exacerbate the "tune wars". Instead, I would like to know what is Vishnu's overall philosophy on N54 AFRs.
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So much bias and clearly a hidden agenda in this post. (well not really that hidden it's pretty clear)
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Can we have boost levels overlayed on that. I am unsure what conclusions can be drawn from this, but as far as I know boost levels (which will indicate load) are important for understanding good vs. bad afrs
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11-16-2011, 05:53 PM | #38 |
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For the amateur - such that I am - it is clear that some run more rich, some intermediate, some lean.
FWIW - none of it means squat to me. I've been waiting for a tuner to give a 'X' solution for 'X' hp without all the namby pamby CELS, codes, limp this or that etc. For me it is quite simple - max return on investment for a moderate amount of risk. All this bleeding edge shit is worthless. I'd rather play with a muscle car than deal with the shenanigans of this engine. |
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11-16-2011, 06:41 PM | #39 |
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1. Without logs for each of the three runs this is going nowhere.
2. COBB Stage 2 doesn't benefit diddly squat from 100 octane. 3. These results should have been done with the same exact car running each tune on pure pump gas. What was the point of this again? It's just gonna start something |
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11-16-2011, 06:42 PM | #40 |
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Really? They both use one analog signal to produce an o2 bias and another analog pair to modify the fuel pressure mapping. They both use data from the analog boost and fuel pressure signals along with CAN data such a lambda and fuel trims to determine how to apply the o2 bias and fuel pressure mapping. Remember when you claimed the PROcede had special commands to clear codes from the DME that the BT cable and JB4 didn't? Then it was verified you were using the exact same commands? Is this going to be another one of those awkward moments?
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11-16-2011, 07:07 PM | #44 |
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Here is my stock dyno, and then my Cobb stage 2+FMIC aggressive dyno. Same dyno and operator, I would say the COBB AFR looks better and doesn't have that oscillation issue down low. Both end up around 12.
I had 95'ish octane for the COBB dyno and was running stock intake for 2 runs, and no intake on 3rd run (red). Stock exhaust too, FBO rest. |
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