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04-20-2007, 06:59 AM | #23 |
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I'm sure this has been brought up many times before, but... For those U.S. citizens that are having having problems with the fuel pump (or any mechanical problem) - take the time to document your contacts with the dealer. You would need this info to take any action under the Lemon Law (different for each state). If they won't/can't fix the problem, eventually, the dealer must legally provide you with a replacement car or buy back your car.
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04-20-2007, 07:32 AM | #24 | |
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Sounds like the cause of failure is due to the "Sensitivity of the high pressure injection pump (HHP) diagnostic software." Regardless, the diagnostic fault codes show that the ECU is reading pressure is too low. But this could mean that the pressure sensor reading simply goes out of spec (i.e. due to pressure-sensor output range being reduced, skewed, or noisy) after some time. If enough information is still there in the HPP's pressure sensor signal, presumably, the software could still compensate by recalibrating (changing the control valve adaption mapping), and no need for new pump. I think software modifications along these lines were already tried and weren't entirely successful. http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B121606g.htm |
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04-20-2007, 08:40 AM | #26 | |
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04-20-2007, 09:25 AM | #27 | |
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thealbert: not to doubt your SA, and just for the sake of thoroughness, can he provide the part number of the failed FP that currently resides in your 335? Is it the same as the HPP part # zenmaster had provided? HPP part # 13537537320 Also, what was your car's build date? From my own personal experiences with SA’s…a lot of times they do not have all the correct information.
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04-20-2007, 09:27 AM | #28 |
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install what you can get..and if it fails..get back in queue. BTW, I use to be a service advisor at a Porsche/Audi dealership. They apparently have supplier issues right this second.
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04-20-2007, 09:31 AM | #29 |
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I'm almost certain that BMW will get this short handed issue fixed soon, otherwise a lot of people will start lemon'ing their cars if it's in the shop for more than 30 days.
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04-20-2007, 09:59 AM | #30 | |
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Interestingly, my 335 that was originally slated for Week 18 production has been moved up 2 weeks. That doesn't seem to indicate "supplier issues"...but what do I know.
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04-20-2007, 06:25 PM | #31 | |
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My car's a 10/06 build, sedan, manual. Last edited by thealbert; 04-22-2007 at 06:58 AM.. |
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04-20-2007, 06:56 PM | #32 | |
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Perhaps now is a good time for you to confront the situation with someone above him. Best of luck to you.
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04-20-2007, 07:51 PM | #33 | |
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That would only make sense and be a relief. They should begin shipping these new ones to dealers soon for replacements for the old fuel pumps then too. |
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04-20-2007, 09:18 PM | #34 |
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As it stands it is complete speculation that multiple fuel pumps exist, from what I understand all fuel pumps have the same part # as in the SIB. One would hope they have either gone with another manufacturer or somehow refined the production process but i have read dozens of these threads and I have yet to see proof
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04-21-2007, 11:42 AM | #35 |
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Well, if there IS a problem with the current fuel pumps (which to a small degree there seems to be) I hope BMW makes a change by next month, as that's when my new coupe is built.
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04-21-2007, 12:04 PM | #36 |
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Mine went into production two days ago, i'm praying that they are putting some type of revised pump in there. It would really suck to wait 3 months for a car and then to have the fuel pump take a crap.
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04-21-2007, 12:12 PM | #37 |
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Sorry OT here but Boosted, I just noticed you live in Wilmington, NC
Where? I "lived" there for 4 months while working. Love that city, had a blast, great people! I rented a condo on Front Street off Market, across from the City Limits Saloon above the gallery. It has white shutters in the windows. Little party area right there...good time, man good times. |
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04-21-2007, 12:30 PM | #38 | |
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04-21-2007, 01:00 PM | #39 |
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Just my .02, but I'd like to comment that it really sucks to have to drive around a 335i that isn't running to full potential. My car feels like it has a major power loss and the idle sometimes gets so low that it feels like the engine is going to stop. It also takes most the joy out of driving the car.
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04-21-2007, 04:17 PM | #40 | |
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06-18-2007, 09:56 AM | #41 |
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I got a replacement approx 1 week ago. The fuel pump went bad again within 3 days...must have been an old-new pump. The service bulliten told them to order a specific part number when this started to happen. Not sure why an old-new pump was ordered.
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06-18-2007, 10:18 AM | #42 | |
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although i have not visited the bimmerfest site in a while, they had some threads re new fuel pump. seems that the old siemens pump has been replaced by a bosh. all newly produced cars should have these new pumps - is what the threads imply. if someone could confirm this it would be great. i am running late for the dentist... ___________________ 2008 335i convert: on order 1968 Chevelle 396 convertible ’94 M3 retired ’95 540i retired ’81 911 Carerra retired |
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06-18-2007, 11:12 AM | #43 |
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what i have heard from bmw "higher ups" is that they are changing manufactures hence the drastic backorder in parts. the problem has been isolated to a leaking (or alltogehter) failed internal valve inside the high pressure pump. We are installing the 13-53-7-537-320 pumps as replacement pumps. Also I believe that up to march 2007 may still have bad pumps installed.
my pump took a dump and i have replaced it already with the 320 pumps - so far its ok. pump failed at 4000 miles - have 1000 on new pump still ok. my car is a late feb 07 production
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06-18-2007, 12:47 PM | #44 | |
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Do you believe the failure is actually what they said, and if it is an internal valve failure did you hear if they believe all the pumps would fail or are we looking at some manufacturing process issue where some are good and some are bad. It would be nice to have some idea what we are looking at here. |
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