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05-13-2007, 10:47 PM | #45 | |
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I hit the speed limiter (158 mph indicated) at 9000 feet yesterday....no code. AA should look into that. Shiv went up to Boulder (6000 ft) and did some dyno runs there, so maybe AA should ask him how he made it work. |
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05-13-2007, 11:14 PM | #47 |
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I was referncing the SIZE of the tire!!! Im looking at getting the 555r 285/35/18 its only 10mm wider so thats why i think i can do it!:rocks:
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P.s.... Trying to launch a smg sucks big time. I was having to use burn out mode just to get off the line without bogging big time. Had a good time ... I was nice meeting everyone...
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05-14-2007, 12:02 AM | #51 | |
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wow SL55 and a Turbo Porsche ran 13.5's??? they must have felt slow compared to the 335's. That VF m3 is sick fast down in the valley.... |
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05-14-2007, 12:09 AM | #52 | |
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05-14-2007, 12:14 AM | #53 | |
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Did any PROcedes have your issue? Just curious. Again at that 12,000 ft. summit I stopped the car and got out and walked around for a bit. Got back in and idled for a few minutes while I got ready for the downhill portion. Never threw a code. |
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05-14-2007, 12:17 AM | #54 |
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There was a rs6 . It was running 13.5 - 14.00's ... not good... don't quote me this info is from someone else that was there.
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05-14-2007, 12:59 AM | #55 |
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Sounds like a good time, thanks for reporting guys. Terry, excellent runs That is really impressive that you had faster runs than the SC M3's
That code probelm sounds odd though. At least it cleared up back down to lower elevation. |
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05-14-2007, 01:17 AM | #56 |
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Very pleased with the performance of my 335i steptronic sedan..
Last time I came out to LACR with my 2006 M3, my best time was around a 14 flat at 100.1mph or so. At Famosa, I got a 13.554 @ 104.14, which was actually one of the quickest stock M3 times of the day. I know that the high elevation of LACR hurts the M3 more, so this time I brought my 335i. Another 335i owner told me its best to let the engine cool off for 45 minutes before running. But I didn't want to wait, and made like 4 runs in a row. (All together I made 21 till I ran out of gas!). Surprisingly the runs were pretty good considering I went straight from finish line to the staging lanes. My best runs were a 13.465,13.470,13.598. my best trap speed was 102.459mph. Interestingly enough, later in the day my ET sucked, but I had many runs over 102mph. I had traction problems later in the day, and had to modulate the throttle more, and sometimes the car would short shift into 2nd, so maybe thats part of the reason. The car is so uneventful and easy to drive with the steptronic compared to my M3. The first time I ran against the with Turbo Tuner coupe, my car shifted into 2nd too soon, so I asked him if we could run again. I beat him to the finish line due to my quicker reaction time, but he ran a .024 second quicker ET 13.797 vs 13.773, but it was lots of fun. More impressive is I was running on a totally stock 335i, 1800 miles, and on run flats! Well, it was fun talking to everyone, including Driver 72, as we are both very technical. I won about 50% more races than I lost, and most of the loses were against modified vehicles. Fortunately my reaction often time was about 1/2 that of the other driver in many of the runs (.14 sec). I even had a .073 and .094 second reaction time on a couple runs, which is pretty decent. I also had one -.001 ! That is close! You generally get better with more experience. I was actually amazed at how slow some of the modified cars, and big AMGs were running. I know the SL55 AMG and CLS63 AMG have about 500 horse power, but my best times overlapped into their E.T. range. Of course at sea level I'm sure they are monsters. The one E39 M5 seemed to run right around 14.5 seconds at less than 100mph. I will try and list the times that I recorded, but I have to get another report done.
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05-14-2007, 01:25 AM | #58 |
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You guys did damn good, congrats!
Most of the cars ran like crap, some stage 3 B5 S4's were trapping 109, 110, which is far below their norm, but we all knew this about LACR, but there were some S4's that ran pretty good, but far below their normal 120+ traps, fun day regardless. Best I did was 13.25 at 108 MPH, 2.1 60'. VF - Engineering Stage 1 SC'd M3, 5.3psi, DR's, full weight.
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05-14-2007, 02:32 AM | #59 |
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The RS6's did terrible, mid 13's, 14's at 101-104 MPH, I believe they were both chipped as well.
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08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
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05-14-2007, 04:09 AM | #60 |
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By looking at the times, you can see how even going against a faster, more powerful car, it can still be a drivers race. An M3 convertible turned in faster times than some of the coupes. And if I ever told you that my stock 335i sedan could turn in a time as quick as a 500HP AMG Mercedes, you would think I was lying, but if you look at the times that people actually get, you can see how some people might actually think they beat a faster car because they had a little .50 second head start on the take off.
So here is an unofficial compiliation of the times that I observed. Unfortunately those damn timing lights are hard to read sometimes with their missing bulbs. (Someone should tell them to fix those!) I was in my car running for much of the time, so Im sure that I missed many of the better times that some of you ran. So again these are only the times that I observed, or had people run against me. I am sure I messed up on the VW model names, and some of the Audis, but at least this should get you a rough idea of the times that were run: LACR . German Invasion. May 13th, 2007. Blue Audi S4 Turbo 12.18 @ 114.49mph Silver Porsche Turbo 12.51 @ 114.96mph Silver Porsche Turbo 12.53 @ 115.31mph Silver Porsche Turbo 12.54 @ 115.32mph Blue Audi S4 Turbo 12.974 @ 108.464mph Silver Porsche Turbo 12.98 @ 115.88mph Blue Audi S4 Turbo. (Awe Tuning) 12.98 @ 110.10mph Red Mercedes SLK32 AMG 13.14 @ 104.70mph Blue Audi S4 Turbo. 13.14 @ 104.57mph Silver Audi S4 Turbo 13.18 @ 103.33mph Grey BMW E46 M3 (Supercharged) 13.25 @ 108.02mph Red Mercedes SL55 AMG 13.40 @ 105.39mph Black Audi S4 Turbo.13.45 @ 104.30mph White BMW E90 335i Sedan (Stock) 13.465 @ 101.070mph White BMW E90 335i Sedan (Stock) 13.470 @ 101.179mph Red Audi Turbo Quattro (034 Motorsport) 13.49 @ 107.24mph Grey BMW E46 M3 Supercharged 13.49 @ 107.00mph White BMW E46 M3 Supercharged 13.51 @ 108.00mph Blue Audi S4 13.55 @ 100.56mph Red Mercedes SL55 AMG 13.57 @ 106.43mph Grey BMW E46 M3 Supercharged 13.57 @ 106.16mph White BMW E46 M3 Supercharged 13.58 @ 107.99mph Red Mercedes SL55 AMG 13.58 @ 104.71mph Black Mercedes CLS 63 AMG 13.59 @ 105.48mph White BMW E90 335i Sedan (Stock) 13.598 @ 101.869mph Black BMW E92 335i (software/exhaust?) 13.60 @ 104.07mph Black BMW E92 335i (software/exhaust?) 13.65 @ 105.22mph Black Mercedes CLS 63 AMG 13.66 @ 106.19mph Black Mercedes CLS 63 AMG 13.684 @ 105.305mph Grey Audi RS6 13.691 @ 102.401mph Black BMW E90 335i (Xede?) 13.701 @ 104.323mph Blue Audi S4 13.76 @ 103.79 mph Blk BMW E46 M3 (2 Dr Jet) 13.76 @ 103.37mph White BMW E92 335i (Turbo Tuner) 13.773 @ 102.784mph Black BMW E92 335i (software/exhaust?) 13.79 @ 104.15mph Silver BMW E90 335i Xede? 13.83 @ 102.22mph Blue Audi S4 13.86 @ 102.52mph White BMW E46 M3 Supercharged 13.89 @ 107.99mph Grey BMW E46 M3 13.89 @ 107.24mph White BMW E92 335i (Turbo Tuner) 13.890 @ 99.182mph White BMW E92 335i (Turbo Tuner) 13.90 @ 103.23mph Blk Mercedes CLS63 AMG 13.96 @ 105.99mph Grey BMW E46 M3. 13.97 @ 107.76mph Silver Audi S6 13.99 @ 102.17mph Blk BMW E46 M3 (Mvenom) 14.03 @ 99.23mph Red Mercedes SLK32 AMG 14.04 @ 100.67mph White BMW E92 335i 14.05 @ 99.77mph Black Mercedes CLS 63 AMG 14.09 @ 106.63mph Blue BMW E46 M3 (Active AW) 14.13 @ 104.24mph Red Porsche Turbo 14.140 @ 105.393mph Blk BMW E46 M3 (2 Dr Jet) 14.15 @ 101.14mph Blk BMW E46 M3 (2 Dr Jet) 14.18 @ 101.02mph Grey BMW E46 M3 14.198 @ 98.042mph Red Audi S4 14.23 @ 96.64mph Grey BMW E90 335i Sedan. (Turbo Tuner) 14.25 @ 101.06mph Blk BMW E46 M3 (2 Dr Jet) 14.26 @ 101.10mph Grey Mercedes CLS 550 14.28 @ 96.73mph Silver Audi S4 14.29 @ 95.70mph Blk BMW E46 M3 (2 Dr Jet) 14.32 @ 100.96mph Blue BMW E46 M3 14.33 @ 100.55mph Red Audi S4 Turbo 14.33 @ 96.32mph Grey Mercedes CLS 550 14.333 @ 96.603mph Grey BMW E46 M3 14.37 @ 99.351mph Silver BMW E46 M3 14.37 @ 97.36mph Silver Mercedes C32 AMG Sedan 14.39 @ 98.27mph Silver Mercedes C32 AMG Sedan 14.463 @ 97.307mph Blue BMW E46 M3 14.47 @ 96.48mph Silver BMW E39 M5 14.48 @ 97.97mph Silver Mercedes C32 AMG Sedan 14.48 @ 97.85mph Blue Audi S4 14.49 @ 94.10mph Black BMW E46 M3 14.53 @ 99.94mph Black BMW E46 M3 14.537 @ 97.482mph Blue Audi S4 14.53 @ 95.64mph Black VW R32 Supercharged 14.62 @ 95.17mph Silver Audi S6 14.63 @ 96.91mph Blue BMW E46 M3 Conv. 14.64 @ 96.96mph Grey BMW E46 M3 14.650 @ 97.603mph Black BMW E46 M3 14.67 @ 99.42mph Silver BMW E39 M5 14.67 @ 98.02mph Silver BMW E39 M5 14.67 @ 97.91mph Silver Mercedes C32 AMG Sedan 14.67 @ 97.67mph Blue BMW E46 M3 Coupe 14.68 @ 96.79mph Blue BMW E46 M3 Conv 14.68 @ 96.54mphh Blue BMW E46 M3 Conv. 14.70 @ 96.86mph Silver BMW E46 M3 14.72 @ 97.46mph Silver BMW E39 M5 14.73 @ 97.30mph Blue BMW E46 M3 Coupe 14.75 @ 97.55mph Blue BMW E46 M3 Conv 14.76 @ 97.10mph Black Audi S4 V8 14.76 @ 92.81mph Blue Audi S4 14.78 @ 95.26mph VW Silver Golf 14.82 @ 90.64mph Silver Audi S6 14.89 @ 98.95mph Silver Mercedes AMG C32 Sedan 14.90 @ 97.73mph Blue BMW E46 M3 (Active AW) 14.96 @ 102.32mph Blue Audi S4 14.96 @ 92.22mph Blue BMW E46 M3 Conv. 14.97 @ 95.16mph Silver Mercedes AMG C32 Sedan 14.98 @ 97.97mph Blue BMW E46 M3 14.98 @ 96.94mph Black Audi S4 V8 14.99 @ 92.75mph Silver BMW E39 M3 15.04 @ 95.46mph Red VW Jetta. 15.16 @ 94.66mph Red VW Jetta 15.36 @ 94.02mph Silver Audi S4 V8 15.16 @ 94.82mph Grey Audi S4 V8 15.19 @ 92.31mph Black VW R32 Supercharged 15.42 @ 92.81mph Grey Audi S4 V8 15.43 @ 92.94mph Red VW Jetta 15.53 @ 91.15mph Black Audi S4 15.51 @ 92.91mph Silver VW GTI 15.68 @ 92.04mph Black Audi S4 15.69 @ 93.70mph White Audi A4 15.74 @ 88.57mph White VW GTI 15.79 @ 91.36mph Grey VW Jetta 16.59 @ 84.30mph |
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05-14-2007, 07:06 AM | #61 |
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Great time on the stock 335i at that elevation! It looks like the factories 0.2 bar overboost really helps at the higher elevation.
I have seen this question come up, but never really answered. Does the PROcede, or even AA xede, still allow for this overboost? If it still does, then maybe this is what caused some 'code errors' as someone mentioned. I recalled Shiv testing this out at some point during the beta testing, so I am assuming it was addressed in development. If the overboost function is not present, this could explain why the stock 335i faired so well against the modded 335is. |
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05-14-2007, 09:50 AM | #62 |
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Both PROceded cars never threw a code. There have been several PROceded cars run at LACR in recent weeks, including mine. No issues. And as ADHD said, he lives like 10 minutes from LACR and drives up there all the time with his PROcede, no codes. I did however, throw a brief code on one run when I floored it going into 3rd and traction was SO BAD a few weeks ago, that it spun like crazy and the tach whipped PAST redline, which threw a code. But by the time I drove back to the pits it had cleared itself. This also happened to me once when I raced a 05-07 Mustang GT (and wasted it), but again within a minute or two after I turned off the freeway the code cleared. Car never lost any power or faultered, just the brief codes. Maybe Raybrab can chime in too and see if his TT car cleared the code once he got back down closer to sea level. The white TT coupe had no issues however. |
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05-14-2007, 11:25 AM | #63 |
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and trapping like DLJ5S said...in the 101-104 range, which is way off from their norm. Seems like most cars were trapping anywhere from 4-7 MPH from their "norm", compared to other tracks. I mean....Chipped RS6's should be in the 108-111 range or higher easily. 996TT trapping 107? Tells you about the conditions.
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05-14-2007, 11:40 AM | #65 | |
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11.15 or something from an 86 GTI (forgot the trap) 11.52@119.7 Dark Blue Stage 3 S4 11.6@124 or something from a 500+ whp A4 11.9@120 Cactus Green Stage 3+ S4 11.9@115.xx Nogaro Stage 3 S4 the 034 Motorsport Audi Quattro you have above was much faster....it trapped 126-128 from what i remember, forgot the ET Conditions were less than ideal as said......but most importantly, eveyone had fun. The 335i's held their own imo, as did a couple SC M3's under the conditions. I was happy with my results from the Audi camp, my best ET was 12.3@114.9 and my best trap of the day was 116.331. See ya all at the next German Invasion..........GI2 hopefully in the fall |
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