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      10-23-2013, 05:54 PM   #1
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Meth numbers...

I was thinking about installing a meth kit to go with my JBD. Any idea of power increase with this setup? What kit would work best? I remember hearing there were a couple for the d.
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I have read anywhere from 50-70 hp gains, that said I also read if you want to use the CHEAPO meth use winshield wiper fluid. YES. you read that right. Snow Performance has universal intsallation kits @ $500 a pop and moves on to bigger stages, I beleive 50-70 gain is enough for our cars w JB or Flashes
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      10-24-2013, 09:05 AM   #3
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Not sure about the gains, that depends on a lot of factors and I dont know enough about it to wager a guess at our flow numbers.

The kit that Burger sells that is JBD specific goes for the price on their site for the cheapest methanol kit, unless you want to add goodies. I went with a windshield washer bottle install and I use 50/50 mix in it
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Not sure about the gains, that depends on a lot of factors and I dont know enough about it to wager a guess at our flow numbers.

The kit that Burger sells that is JBD specific goes for the price on their site for the cheapest methanol kit, unless you want to add goodies. I went with a windshield washer bottle install and I use 50/50 mix in it
Have you dynoed your car? Track?
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      10-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #5
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No dyno yet, 12.933@106 in the 1/4 @ about 80F
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      10-25-2013, 12:42 PM   #6
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No dyno yet, 12.933@106 in the 1/4 @ about 80F
That is awesome. What mods? I can search if you would like, but I'm on my phone and it's a pain. Haha.

I ran a best of 13.9 @ 100 with JBD @ 100% only. 80F also.
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JBD at 100% and the Burger meth kit with 50/50 mix is all
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      10-25-2013, 03:35 PM   #8
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JBD at 100% and the Burger meth kit with 50/50 mix is all
Cool. That is exactly what I am about to do. Do you have stock wheels and tires? Any runs with JBD only?
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Cool. That is exactly what I am about to do. Do you have stock wheels and tires? Any runs with JBD only?
all stock everything except the JBD and meth, down to the tire pressures. This is with sport package wheels and tires. I never ran without the meth but I did not notice a huge difference when I installed it, mostly that the power continues to deliver stronger at higher RPM than just JBD
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I have read anywhere from 50-70 hp gains, that said I also read if you want to use the CHEAPO meth use winshield wiper fluid. YES. you read that right. Snow Performance has universal intsallation kits @ $500 a pop and moves on to bigger stages, I beleive 50-70 gain is enough for our cars w JB or Flashes
I wonder if anybody has tried injecting DEF. Might boost power and clean out the DPF at the same time.
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No dyno yet, 12.933@106 in the 1/4 @ about 80F
that meth adds HUGE gains that's 1 sec faster in the 1/4 than my car with reflash. at least this is a projected time considering i consistently run a 9 sec 1/8 @ 80mph with reflash. with meth that thing has to be pushing 400hp
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      10-25-2013, 07:44 PM   #12
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that meth adds HUGE gains that's 1 sec faster in the 1/4 than my car with reflash. at least this is a projected time considering i consistently run a 9 sec 1/8 @ 80mph with reflash. with meth that thing has to be pushing 400hp
I don't think so, you can't just compare my 1/4 and your projected 1/4. 1 second in the quarter is a big gain that you can REALLY feel on the butt dyno, the methanol just didn't have that effect. I would estimate maybe 2-3 tenths at best. Your 13.9 is way too close to stock, something was up with that run. I know the numbers from that run lined up and made sense so it wasn't the driving but something else. I might go back in the next couple week so to satisfy everyones interest I'll run one with the methanol off.
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I have read anywhere from 50-70 hp gains, that said I also read if you want to use the CHEAPO meth use winshield wiper fluid. YES. you read that right. Snow Performance has universal intsallation kits @ $500 a pop and moves on to bigger stages, I beleive 50-70 gain is enough for our cars w JB or Flashes
Are you joking?
The cheaper kits utilize the windshield wiper tank as a meth tank..they dont use windshield wiper fluid as methanol!
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Are you joking?
The cheaper kits utilize the windshield wiper tank as a meth tank..they dont use windshield wiper fluid as methanol!
No, you can use wiper fluid, but only from some parts of the country, probably not vegas. In colder areas of the country they mix water and methanol to keep fluid from freezing, somewhere around 30%meth/70%water.
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No, you can use wiper fluid, but only from some parts of the country, probably not vegas. In colder areas of the country they mix water and methanol to keep fluid from freezing, somewhere around 30%meth/70%water.
hmmm thats like smoking oregano to get hi lol
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Well I guess it doesn't matter now since I was informed today that Terry doesn't produce a meth kit for diesels anymore. Now I have to find one that will work on my car with the JBD. :|
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Well I guess it doesn't matter now since I was informed today that Terry doesn't produce a meth kit for diesels anymore. Now I have to find one that will work on my car with the JBD. :|
Did you email him? It wasn't listed on their site but when I emailed their sales email they told me what to do
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From Terry:

"Hi Jeremy,

We're no longer supporting 335d meth kits. Not enough volume there to
justify the product. Sorry but we won't be able to help you with that."

And then...
"Sorry for the confusion. We don't actually offer anything on the meth kit front. But meth is compatible with the 335d. Try aquamist perhaps on that."

I found a BMS WW kit with a $140 upgraded pump head for $350, but it is for a 335i. Different fuel controller. That's the missing part I can't find. The Aquamist is like $800.
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From Terry:

"Hi Jeremy,

We're no longer supporting 335d meth kits. Not enough volume there to
justify the product. Sorry but we won't be able to help you with that."

And then...
"Sorry for the confusion. We don't actually offer anything on the meth kit front. But meth is compatible with the 335d. Try aquamist perhaps on that."

I found a BMS WW kit with a $140 upgraded pump head for $350, but it is for a 335i. Different fuel controller. That's the missing part I can't find. The Aquamist is like $800.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm sure they did very minimal business there, I was kind of surprised they still did it when I got mine. You should seek advice from tdiwyse on wiring if you want to go forward with it, if you're comfortable with electronics its not that difficult, though the bms solution was undoubtedly the easiest.
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that meth adds HUGE gains that's 1 sec faster in the 1/4 than my car with reflash. at least this is a projected time considering i consistently run a 9 sec 1/8 @ 80mph with reflash. with meth that thing has to be pushing 400hp
Your car dont perform as it should.
I run 13,2 105 with just JBD @ 100% on crappy tire with 2.2 sec 60ft.
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ok Im leaning in using the WW tank I need to clean most of the SOOT in my intakes even though i drive her like a two cent whore
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Your car dont perform as it should.
I run 13,2 105 with just JBD @ 100% on crappy tire with 2.2 sec 60ft.
LUCKY! Haha. What temps? Look at my time slips and see what you think.

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