OEM suspension vs. M Sport Suspension

TrueLoyaltyInc · 04-17-2013, 10:22 PM

What are the differences? As far as height? And Drive? Could a M sport suspension from a 335i 2010 coupe Fit a 2007 328i coupe? I may be getting it for a good price so I'm currently considering... Thanks in advance

TrueLoyaltyInc · 04-18-2013, 06:30 AM

Morning bump

Volasko · 04-18-2013, 11:03 AM

Best thing to do when in doubt is to look up the suspension part numbers in realoem (dot) com. Look up the suspension part number using your vin number and compare it to a new model.

Phil325i · 04-18-2013, 11:41 AM

A little lower and a little firmer is the answer. With RFTs some feel the MSport kit makes the ride too firm.

And they're both OEM of course...

TrueLoyaltyInc · 04-18-2013, 06:43 PM

Thanks y'all

N8N · 04-18-2013, 06:45 PM

Too firm? Meh, I think it's a great comfortable street suspension.

Maybe I just am too used to driving my old VWs which I always immediately installed H&R springs w/ Koni Yellows as soon as something suspension related needed attention

gpb · 04-18-2013, 07:12 PM

I like the ride. Couldn't wait to get out of the rental Camry on my last business trip and get home!

Daily_Driver · 04-20-2013, 11:14 AM

to the OP... I see that Phil325 is from the UK. As I understand it, the US M-sport is the European/UK 'sport' suspension. In Europe/UK, the order is Base<sport<M-sport, whereas in the US it is Base<Sport and to get the European M-sport, you have to go to the (aftermarket) BMW 'Performance Suspension'.

When Phil325 says that some find it too stiff, I think he is referring to the equivalent of the BMW Performance Suspension.

quattr0 · 04-21-2013, 03:20 PM

I have sport suspension with non-rft. Yes it is too firm for me at times especially after 5 years driving it and one day drove the wife MDX lol

Bavarian Black · 04-21-2013, 03:27 PM

McPherson make the 335i suspension. I would suggest finding out if there the same?? But we're talking about 2 diff cars hear...dimensions, curb weight etc all come into play. I suggest you ask a pro BMW mechanic just in case

Bavarian Black · 04-21-2013, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daily_Driver

to the OP... I see that Phil325 is from the UK. As I understand it, the US M-sport is the European/UK 'sport' suspension. In Europe/UK, the order is Base<sport<M-sport, whereas in the US it is Base<Sport and to get the European M-sport, you have to go to the (aftermarket) BMW 'Performance Suspension'.

When Phil325 says that some find it too stiff, I think he is referring to the equivalent of the BMW Performance Suspension.

ALL 335i's come with the same suspension. Sport pkg is cosmetic. Regarding us vs uk. That's something I cannot answer.

BB

MCoupeInsanity · 04-21-2013, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bavarian Black

ALL 335i's come with the same suspension. Sport pkg is cosmetic. Regarding us vs uk. That's something I cannot answer.

BB

That's not entirely correct, as far as I know. I believe Sport package and M-sport package share a more aggressive suspension than the base vehicle.

N8N · 04-21-2013, 07:43 PM

Well, as far as I know at least in the US all E92s have the M-sport suspension. E90s may have standard or M-sport depending on how the car was optioned. I have heard before that M-sport does not mean the same thing in the US or Europe but I can't confirm or deny.

Bavarian Black · 04-22-2013, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8N

Well, as far as I know at least in the US all E92s have the M-sport suspension. E90s may have standard or M-sport depending on how the car was optioned. I have heard before that M-sport does not mean the same thing in the US or Europe but I can't confirm or deny.

Correrct. My 335i was imported from the US. It has the sports steering wheel, and MSports pgk.

I had an article on the standard set up of a 335i and you will see it comes as standard with

Suspension. Click to collapse.
Independent Double Pivot Strut Front Suspension With Alloy Subframe, Coil Springs, Gas Charged Shock Absorbers and Sport Ride Type
Independent Multi-Link Rear Suspension With Coil Springs Gas Charged Shock Absorbers and Sport Ride Type
Front Stabilizer Bar
Rear Stabilizer Bar

http://autos.yahoo.com/bmw/3-series-coupe/2007/335i/features.html

I'm quite sure that all 335i have sports suspension ESP US versions.

Anyone else care to join and explain further please do.

Thanks

BB

Bavarian Black · 04-22-2013, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8N

Well, as far as I know at least in the US all E92s have the M-sport suspension. E90s may have standard or M-sport depending on how the car was optioned. I have heard before that M-sport does not mean the same thing in the US or Europe but I can't confirm or deny.

Correrct. My 335i was imported from the US. It has the sports steering wheel, and MSports pgk.

I had an article on the standard set up of a 335i and you will see it comes as standard with

Suspension. Click to collapse.
Independent Double Pivot Strut Front Suspension With Alloy Subframe, Coil Springs, Gas Charged Shock Absorbers and Sport Ride Type
Independent Multi-Link Rear Suspension With Coil Springs Gas Charged Shock Absorbers and Sport Ride Type
Front Stabilizer Bar
Rear Stabilizer Bar

http://autos.yahoo.com/bmw/3-series-.../features.html

I'm quite sure that all 335i have sports suspension ESP US versions.
Please don't get confused with BMW's performance package and the sports suspension.

Anyone else care to join and explain further please do.

Thanks

BB

raceyBMW · 04-22-2013, 01:05 PM

In the US, there is no M-sport suspension, the M-sport package was purely cosmetic. There is only Sport suspension on the coupes. So it does not matter if you are non-sport package (ZSP). When you add the ZSP package, you get bumped to the 18" wheel combo and raised speed limiter (plus the other goodies that come with ZSP).

This is for RWD models, XI I *think* is a different story.

So no, going to sport (again, no M-sport) suspension will not do anything for you. What you need to do to upgrade is go BMW Performance suspension or go aftermarket.

boostedstyle95 · 04-22-2013, 05:33 PM

Quick question, how much should i pay to get oem sport suspension installed on non sport suspension e90 335i thats springs and struts (the whole 9 yards)

Bavarian Black · 04-23-2013, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raceyBMW

In the US, there is no M-sport suspension, the M-sport package was purely cosmetic. There is only Sport suspension on the coupes. So it does not matter if you are non-sport package (ZSP). When you add the ZSP package, you get bumped to the 18" wheel combo and raised speed limiter (plus the other goodies that come with ZSP).

This is for RWD models, XI I *think* is a different story.

So no, going to sport (again, no M-sport) suspension will not do anything for you. What you need to do to upgrade is go BMW Performance suspension or go aftermarket.

+1

And there you have it!

=C= · 02-26-2016, 10:56 PM

What's the difference between bwm performance suspension springs (yellow) vs m-sport/sport suspension (black) springs.

feuer · 02-27-2016, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =C=

What's the difference between bwm performance suspension springs (yellow) vs m-sport/sport suspension (black) springs.

read here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235797

=C= · 02-27-2016, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feuer

read here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235797

Is the spring rate the only difference?

feuer · 02-27-2016, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =C=

Is the spring rate the only difference?

I guess you did not read through it!

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