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      03-03-2016, 06:27 PM   #1
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Michelin PSS from Costco not the same as that sold by Michelin Dealers?

So I ordered a set of Michelin Pilot Sports from Costco and when they came in the shop manager calls me to tell me that they won't install non runflats on a car that came with them OEM. This is a major headache because now I have to go get them and take them somewhere else to be installed.

As I start calling installers and telling my story, 2 separate shops give me shit about buying Michelins from Costco claiming that the tires are different than those sold at any other Michelin dealer and are inferior. One shop claimed they are BFG's rebranded as Michelins and said the sku#s are different. I don't believe the first part of that but it turns out the SKU's ARE different. Anyone have any idea why this is or hear of this before? I find it had to believe that Michelin would sell a lesser quality PSS flaghip to anyone.
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Lot of bs there.
1) if it says Michelin on the side, it's a Michelin tire. Trademark infringement is a very serious no-no.
2) likely what the shops mean is that it's not a Starred BMW OEM tire (BMW oem tires have a star on them, if you didn't know.) All it means is that it's slightly different from the OEM. (I have no idea about the actual differences; they're sure to be so slight it won't matter.)
3) bs from your Costco, too. I ordered a set of Bridgestone WS80 go-flats from the Issaquah Costco today for my 335d (sale for $70 off - they're next year's winter tires), and yeah they asked if I had TPMS in the rims, but they didn't care other than that.
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So I ordered a set of Michelin Pilot Sports from Costco and when they came in the shop manager calls me to tell me that they won't install non runflats on a car that came with them OEM. This is a major headache because now I have to go get them and take them somewhere else to be installed.

As I start calling installers and telling my story, 2 separate shops give me shit about buying Michelins from Costco claiming that the tires are different than those sold at any other Michelin dealer and are inferior. One shop claimed they are BFG's rebranded as Michelins and said the sku#s are different. I don't believe the first part of that but it turns out the SKU's ARE different. Anyone have any idea why this is or hear of this before? I find it had to believe that Michelin would sell a lesser quality PSS flaghip to anyone.
SKU is different just because it's Costco.
They do not make a lesser tire for Costco.

They are giving you crap because you got them cheaper than they sell them.
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SKU is different just because it's Costco.
They do not make a lesser tire for Costco.

They are giving you crap because you got them cheaper than they sell them.
Lol yes I understand their motivation for giving me a hard time but the SKUS should be the same across the same merchandise. I googled this question and there's some heated debates on the Internet about it, just wondered if anyone knew why they were not the same.

And yes, my local Costco is full of it, they are claiming they can't do it for liability issues. Going to cost me more than double for a different installer.
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They are giving you crap because you got them cheaper than they sell them.
Agreed.

If they won't touch the car because it came with run flats, take your wheels off, pop out the center caps, and just take the wheels in and tell 'em they're off of a ford windstar or something lol

If that doesn't work, go get the list of installers off of TireRack that have already given price quotes to do this exact work.
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Yes, find a TireRack installer. They have no issues mounting tires that were not sold by the shop.
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They tried the same crap here where i live. What i did was take my wheels off myself and then had them mount the tires on my loose wheels. That way they are not putting them on the car and can't say anything.
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I dunno about tire but I did work for a company which is also a costco supplier. Costco business logic is they buying a big truck load of defeated products that any other resellers not willing to take(not passing QC). So that's why the model#/sku# are different than you find from usual store. So I avoid buying any electronics from Costco
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SKU is different just because it's Costco.
They do not make a lesser tire for Costco.

They are giving you crap because you got them cheaper than they sell them.
Exactly

Many brands make a special sku for costco items, so they don't have issues with other distributors getting pissed off about having to price match.

Happens with their tvs all the time. Same brand, same tv specs, different sku at Costco vs best buy
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Was explained to me by our tire rep, there are basically three levels of tires. They are built the same, and then go through 12 or 13 different quality checks. The best ones that pass all the tests go to the car manufacturers for cars on the assembly line. Next level that pass most of the tests go to the tire companies authorised retailers, like Tirerack or wholesalers, who in turn either sell to the public or dealerships. The ones that are "good enough" passing only some of the quality tests go to places like Costco.

So yes, it is the same tire, but it is not the same quality.

I will never buy tires from Costco, or for the other Canadians of the forum, from Canadian Tire.

I believe Michelin puts an X in the tire DOT to denote a tire that is sold to third parties, and Michelin will not directly warranty these tires. We can not send Costco Michelin tires back to our wholesale tire supplier for warranty issues.

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Yeah, with some digging my understanding is that the warranty needs to be covered by Costco initially and that if I am not happy with Costco warranty service then Michelin will cover it.

BTW when I called Michelin and asked them and they adamantly denied that the tires sold at Costco are different in any way from tires sold elsewhere other than the warranty process.

Just passing along my experiences...
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My Costco has a 50,000km warranty on PSS. 80,000km on Pirelli P Zero. Good enough for me.
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Sounds like the Costco RFT policy differs by location or individual.

I burn through 2 - 3 sets of performance tires per summer on the track. I took time to cultivate a relationship with the local Costco tire manager, because I knew that I would be working with him frequently. He's never let me down, replacing some tires under warranty, swapping different rims, etc.

Additionally, Costco is Class A. I've met Jim Senegal (founder / CEO) through various good works. He's always impressed me as an ethical businessman, and his company reflects this by giving back to the community and standing behind what they sell.
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It's straight BS. I used to work for a tire delivery company, and Costco got the exact same tires as everyone else (Walmart, small shops, dealerships, you name it). We didn't have a special section for just Costco or Walmart...despite popular belief.
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