[saxon]

Just had my car aligned due to tire wear and lately my pass side rim has been rubbing on the strut on right hand turns


My alignment sheet, somehow my camber is way out of whack and i'm stock sport suspension with,19" m359's


alignment by saxonbrian2, on Flickr

[Br0]

Check your bushings, etc on the front suspension components and also your front shocks are prob blown or near dead, right front being the worst.


...Your front camber is horrible for being on stock sport setup, with 2.8 you should literally see and easily notice your front wheel leaning into the top of the wheel well.

[saxon]

i can def notice its more cambered, suspension shop said everything looked straight and no bad bushings etc

[David1]

If your suspension is stock, than you have suspension damage. Was the car in a wreck?

[saxon]

car was never in a wreck, all original components

what suspension pieces will effect camber at the bottom of the hub?

[David1]

Originally Posted by saxon

car was never in a wreck, all original components

what suspension pieces will effect camber at the bottom of the hub?

Hubs, control arms, the strut itself, etc. Are you the original owner?

[Br0]

Im still leaning towards completely blown frnt struts.


How many miles on the car?

[David1]

Originally Posted by Br0

Im still leaning towards completely blown frnt struts.


How many miles on the car?

Worn out struts will not change alignment settings or ride height to effect camber. Something either has been changed or damaged.

[Br0]

Originally Posted by David1

Worn out struts will not change alignment settings or ride height to effect camber. Something either has been changed or damaged.

Yes, springs do, but i highly doubt his springs are damaged and he stated no damage to the arms or bushings could be seen. If that's the case, i have no idea.

EDIT: And btw blown charged gas struts *can* mildly affect ride height due to the charged gas placing some upward force on the car with the spring. But ya prob not enough to put the front at 2.8.

[David1]

There is more to the story.........

[CALWATERBOY]

Originally Posted by saxon

i can def notice its more cambered, suspension shop said everything looked straight and no bad bushings etc

No compressed bushings/balls, or no obviously damaged bushings/balls.....how did they evaluate?

Mileage on current suspension?

Your measured ride height, all wheels?

Hey....need data, without which, shootin' blanks.

[saxon]

mileage on car is currently 48k miles

here is a pic that shows ride height


Untitled by saxonbrian2, on Flickr


Untitled by saxonbrian2, on Flickr

slight curb rash on original rims but it still doesnt explain why it would be that far off on both sides

i checked the springs and they look oem with a plastic sticker tag that wraps around one of the coils and no signs or eibach etc on them

ride heights

drivers side

Untitled by saxonbrian2, on Flickr

pass side

pass side by saxonbrian2, on Flickr

[CALWATERBOY]

Originally Posted by saxon

mileage on car is currently 48k miles

here is a pic that shows ride height

Okee Dokee now we're movin'....pics show:

~25 4/8" Driver and ~25 3/8" Passenger.

Assuming that's from the top of the wheel well fender flange to the bottom of the wheel rim, Bentley says 19" wheel stock ride height should be:

24.60" -- 625 mm Front
23.82" -- 605 mm Rear

Big dff - are your measurements to pavement? If so, what do we have as spec'd above?


Including the tire will introduce error depending on inflation & wear, so let's take that out for now.

Are tires worn, esp on the inside?

[saxon]

tires are evenly worn (thank god i got the alignment when i did or they would have worn unevenly)

i measured from the middle top portion of the fender to the ground (not to the bottom of the wheel)

[CALWATERBOY]

Originally Posted by saxon

tires are evenly worn (thank god i got the alignment when i did or they would have worn unevenly)

i measured from the middle top portion of the fender to the ground (not to the bottom of the wheel)

Well, measured as Bentley says, if spot-on let's call your struts OK for now.

Just for kicks, goes w/o saying, and sure it was done, check the tower strut brace & strut mounts in the engine compartment. OK? All nuts at torque? Everything stock?

Suspension arms. Assuming all arms straight and undamaged, were bushings/balls visually inspected w/o any work, or was there more?

With your mileage, you might want to retorque suspension nuts/bolts. There's a technique to that.

Hesitate to mention, but did anyone look at the subframe?

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[saxon]

Subframe is about the only thing that had not been looked at

All arms joints,nuts are all straight/tight/torqued

[CALWATERBOY]

Originally Posted by saxon

Subframe is about the only thing that had not been looked at

All arms joints,nuts are all straight/tight/torqued

OK, but how would you know?