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      05-29-2010, 09:44 PM   #1
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meth not flowing?

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have the coolingmist kit and procede v4. I went for a drive and i was noticing that meth is only flowing at 4-8 on my debug byte 7. It should be flowing from 18-25 , depending ofcourse.

my future use 1, was always set at 18. Im running an M5 nozzle and still awaiting my M7 nozzle, but nontheless I should be seeing higher flow on my debug byte 7, it used 2 flow at 20-24. Im also seeing more fluid within the lines after I took my cowl off too check it.

anybody suggest where too look first?
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all the fittings for clogs, if all else fails purge the line (which is a pain in the ass as I went through that)
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m7 nozzle is usually 13-14 future use 1. M5 should be less. If you set it to 18 then you will never see the full map 2 settings and feel less power.
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m7 nozzle is usually 13-14 future use 1. M5 should be less. If you set it to 18 then you will never see the full map 2 settings and feel less power.
he has a coolingmist flow sensor which reads higher than our Ifs-30. fwiw, I get 15 on my do10 nozzle with labonte. yandy gets 24-26 on his cmgs with do10.
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Hi guys,

have the coolingmist kit and procede v4. I went for a drive and i was noticing that meth is only flowing at 4-8 on my debug byte 7. It should be flowing from 18-25 , depending ofcourse.

my future use 1, was always set at 18. Im running an M5 nozzle and still awaiting my M7 nozzle, but nontheless I should be seeing higher flow on my debug byte 7, it used 2 flow at 20-24. Im also seeing more fluid within the lines after I took my cowl off too check it.

anybody suggest where too look first?

I would look at the display and see what its reading.

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      05-30-2010, 07:39 AM   #6
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Hi guys,

have the coolingmist kit and procede v4. I went for a drive and i was noticing that meth is only flowing at 4-8 on my debug byte 7. It should be flowing from 18-25 , depending ofcourse.

my future use 1, was always set at 18. Im running an M5 nozzle and still awaiting my M7 nozzle, but nontheless I should be seeing higher flow on my debug byte 7, it used 2 flow at 20-24. Im also seeing more fluid within the lines after I took my cowl off too check it.

anybody suggest where too look first?
Most of the people experiencing problems with this meth kit usually its the check valve...check that first
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Most of the people experiencing problems with this meth kit usually its the check valve...check that first

Customer is getting flow, indicated by his 4-8, unless I am reading this wrong. If this is the case, he is flowing and does not make much sense to look at a checkvalve as causing an issue. Also, our checkvalves never have issues. Flow issues are caused when the customer does not follow the instructions and put the pickup tap in which can cause intermittent flow issues. I dont think thats the problem here.


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Gian,

The other thing to note, I dont know if you have every checked your settings. Since that "shop" botched your install I would bet they did not set your controller up correctly.

Here is what I need you to do.

Turn the MIN and MAX to 0. It will count down 5.4.3.2.1.0.

After it counts down the first LED flow bar will light up and then a number will show up. That number should be "000", write that down. Turn the MAX knob 1 position until the 2nd flow bar lights up and the next number comes up. Do not turn the MIN knob at all. That number should be "000" for example. Due this for all of the params and report back to this thread what they are. Very important, once you go past #8, 2 bars will light up and the VC2 will flash the fault light fast. you need to continue and get all of those settings as well.

#9, 10 and 11 will not light up so dont worry about those. I need all the others (15 of them).

Once you get me those numbers written down take the Max knob and move all the way clockwise and turn the min knob all the way clockwise and then move the MIN and MAX back to the setting you have them at before we did this test.
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Alright I checked out the paramaters on my vc2. When I got my meth installed, the shop told me they would leave the gauge alone and leave it up me 2 set my gauge. Parameters are as follows: 1-000, 2-000, 3-025, 4-100, 5-001, 6-220, 7-000, 8-004, 12-000, 13-000.

Anything past thirteen, does not light up.

I think I should look elsewhere, If only I had pictured instructions on how the meth kit should precisely look, so I can figure out of there is a clog of somesort.
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Alright I checked out the paramaters on my vc2. When I got my meth installed, the shop told me they would leave the gauge alone and leave it up me 2 set my gauge. Parameters are as follows: 1-000, 2-000, 3-025, 4-100, 5-001, 6-220, 7-000, 8-004, 12-000, 13-000.

Anything past thirteen, does not light up.

I think I should look elsewhere, If only I had pictured instructions on how the meth kit should precisely look, so I can figure out of there is a clog of somesort.

Your problem is not a clog. If your flow sensor is in the trunk you need to change the #6 to approx 270. This will greatly change the flow output value being sent to the procede.

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My meth system is setup in the trunk, along with my vc2, so the flow. I will definately set parameter 6 too 270. What does parameter 6 represent btw(flowvoltage output) ?

Also my bro has the same settings as me and his flow is 22-24, any reasoning behind that?
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Don't think it's your vc2 params..Think it's clogged
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Don't think it's your vc2 params..Think it's clogged

His VC2 param is wrong. The 220 is going to cause the flow reading to be off by as much as 30%. He may or may not have a clog, but 100% certain his param for the flow config is wrong.

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Went to dyno today, change my M5 nozzle to the M7 and put parameter #6 at 270, as per dave at coolingmist. in hopes that it would read higher on my Future use 1.

But First I wanted to see if it would flow properly so I took the meth line out of the fitting and put it in an empty jug to see it flow. So i set MIN at 1 and max at 4. On the first try it didnt flow AT ALL. Which was very weird and I couldnt come to any conclusion ( but a line clog), So we rechecked all our parameters. I tried it one more time it started to flow properly.

While we were dynoing, I saw my meth flow from 15-18 and as the runs progressed I was getting mixed numbers, It would get lower on a couple runs 13-16 and 13-17 . Which was very odd and some runs would not map up properly (only for a short period of time, which was very annoying. I checked after a couple runs and I did use a considerable amount of meth, so that does mean its flowing, but im wondering Why are my future use 1 numbers bouncing around when they should be pretty stable? And why are they considerably low, when meth is being use? I am truly stumped, Im probably gonna to a shop and get them to check the lines and the rest of the install.

My best run was 387/417 (dynojet) on pump and meth. I wasnt really happy with these numbers, was really expecting more of a 400-410 whp run, but could never get it. My brother who has pretty much exact mods as I, dynoed 402/445 , on same dyno. The only difference is today was more humid and hot.
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I had a problem with my labonte IFS-30 flow sensor; it would read 14-15, then drop to 6-7, then drop to 0. I checked system, flow sensor itself was leaking. Why don't you spray into a bucket and check the system for leaks or clogs?

I have since upgraded to a solenoid and got a new IFS-30 under warranty and I flow 16-17 all day.
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Went to dyno today, change my M5 nozzle to the M7 and put parameter #6 at 270, as per dave at coolingmist. in hopes that it would read higher on my Future use 1.

But First I wanted to see if it would flow properly so I took the meth line out of the fitting and put it in an empty jug to see it flow. So i set MIN at 1 and max at 4. On the first try it didnt flow AT ALL. Which was very weird and I couldnt come to any conclusion ( but a line clog), So we rechecked all our parameters. I tried it one more time it started to flow properly.

While we were dynoing, I saw my meth flow from 15-18 and as the runs progressed I was getting mixed numbers, It would get lower on a couple runs 13-16 and 13-17 . Which was very odd and some runs would not map up properly (only for a short period of time, which was very annoying. I checked after a couple runs and I did use a considerable amount of meth, so that does mean its flowing, but im wondering Why are my future use 1 numbers bouncing around when they should be pretty stable? And why are they considerably low, when meth is being use? I am truly stumped, Im probably gonna to a shop and get them to check the lines and the rest of the install.

My best run was 387/417 (dynojet) on pump and meth. I wasnt really happy with these numbers, was really expecting more of a 400-410 whp run, but could never get it. My brother who has pretty much exact mods as I, dynoed 402/445 , on same dyno. The only difference is today was more humid and hot.
Shoot me a pm and its probably best you pop by on the weekend and have me look at it. I have a pretty good idea what could be wrong. Have installed a few of these already

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I had a problem with my labonte IFS-30 flow sensor; it would read 14-15, then drop to 6-7, then drop to 0. I checked system, flow sensor itself was leaking. Why don't you spray into a bucket and check the system for leaks or clogs?

I have since upgraded to a solenoid and got a new IFS-30 under warranty and I flow 16-17 all day.
It was weird. It didnt flow at all at first. Then I tried it again it flowed properly. I sprayed into a jug and it came out normally, Im jus confused on what it could be, we shall see soon hopefully. These problems have been dragging on
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It was weird. It didnt flow at all at first. Then I tried it again it flowed properly. I sprayed into a jug and it came out normally, Im jus confused on what it could be, we shall see soon hopefully. These problems have been dragging on
Similar issues with my faulty Labonte flow sensor. I think it's a hardware issue or a leak somewhere.
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