N54 HPFP recall issues get national news coverage

bryce · 10-26-2010, 09:09 AM

way to go, abc. this article and news coverage has prompted bmw to take action immediately. is it a recall? whatever it is, it wouldn't have happened without abc

import36 · 10-26-2010, 09:13 AM

BMW admitted to ABC News that it wasn't until March of this year, four years after these cars were introduced, that it finally found a fix: a properly working fuel pump. "We were making changes but we also had to see and make sure that they were actually reliable in the field," said Baloga.

is this in reference to the -933 pump and the software upgrade...which according to some posts on this forum....still didn't resolve the issue??

bryce · 10-26-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by import36

BMW admitted to ABC News that it wasn't until March of this year, four years after these cars were introduced, that it finally found a fix: a properly working fuel pump. "We were making changes but we also had to see and make sure that they were actually reliable in the field," said Baloga.

is this in reference to the -933 pump and the software upgrade...which according to some posts on this forum....still didn't resolve the issue??

there have been failed 933 pumps, so i'm not sure if that's the pending announcement bmw is going to make. we'll see

shortseller · 10-26-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Probably that they extended the warranty on the HPFP.

or maybe M3s for everyone!

bryce · 10-26-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by shortseller

or maybe M3s for everyone!

that'd be nice

possible335i2008 · 10-26-2010, 09:16 AM

Wonder when they are going to make this announcement? And if pump 933 is the solution we are still in the same boat can someone contact abc about the waste gates!

tke344 · 10-26-2010, 09:18 AM

I'm guessing the big statement is an official recall.. to upgrade everyone to the 933 pump and new software. With this story in the news BMW needs to do something, even though we all know it isn't a fix.

bryce · 10-26-2010, 09:20 AM

^it's to save face. if it's the 933 pump, they'll keep failing as we've already seen on this forum

PKumarM3 · 10-26-2010, 09:26 AM

i bet that it will be a recall to install the 933 pump into all n54 based vehicles and of course, the obligatory software update!

bryce · 10-26-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PKumarM3

i bet that it will be a recall to install the 933 pump into all n54 based vehicles and of course, the obligatory software update!

that would suck. we've seen 933 pumps fail, and what about n55's? they're already experiencing hpfp failures, albeit on a smaller scale.

335iseb · 10-26-2010, 09:35 AM

That announcement will probably not be a recall but like somebody who stated before that it will be the awesome warranty for 10 years or 120k miles.

PKumarM3 · 10-26-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bryce

that would suck. we've seen 933 pumps fail, and what about n55's? they're already experiencing hpfp failures, albeit on a smaller scale.

would u not agree that this report now has given bmw the oppurtunity to say

look, we are issuing a recall. we understand that we were wrong in not wanting to "inconvenience" our customers, but since the customers do want us to issue recalls and update pumps. we will now issue recalls and improvements of our high pressure fuel pumps whenever they come out....BUT will there be a catch?

the e46 m3 had its rear floor come off on cars (rear subframe). bmw issued a "fix" but only if the car had retained its stock suspension. what will bmw do now

tscdennab · 10-26-2010, 09:41 AM

I have noticed that since the 933 pump there are very few to none reports of failure. The percentage is much smaller than before.

WWM3 · 10-26-2010, 09:43 AM

Gotta love some of the comments on the ABC article claiming its B.S. and ABC is trying to destroy BMW.

shortseller · 10-26-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PKumarM3

i bet that it will be a recall to install the 933 pump into all n54 based vehicles and of course, the obligatory software update!

...is what should have us concerned. The SW seems to have the effect of prolonging the pump but to the detriment of performance, at least that was the case in my experience, tamed the beast!

tke344 · 10-26-2010, 09:51 AM

^ I dont even think the pump itself is really improved, I'd guess that the software is masking symptoms and combined with a fresh pump it will last a little longer. Still not a solution.. The fuel system should last the life of a vehicle.

MusclezMarinara · 10-26-2010, 09:51 AM

I had a "limp mode" at 11k .... had my car brought in they replaced the low pressure sensor and updated my software 8k later not a single glitch...im pretty sure the failures are getting few and far between....

bryce · 10-26-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MusclezMarinara

I had a "limp mode" at 11k .... had my car brought in they replaced the low pressure sensor and updated my software 8k later not a single glitch...im pretty sure the failures are getting few and far between....

wrong. bmw dealerships have recently said they see an average of 5 cars per day with hpfp failures.

5 cars per day.

MusclezMarinara · 10-26-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bryce

wrong. bmw dealerships have recently said they see an average of 5 cars per day with hpfp failures.

5 cars per day.

Where did you get those statistics from?

JHOOPS2 · 10-26-2010, 10:00 AM

I'm still of the opinion that it is a priming and lubrication issue that is causing the failures.

-Jeff

shockin330i · 10-26-2010, 10:02 AM

Some people are so dramatic

MusclezMarinara · 10-26-2010, 10:04 AM

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Some people are so dramatic

+10

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possible335i2008 Major 166 Rep 1,222 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: united states iTrader: (10)	Wonder when they are going to make this announcement? And if pump 933 is the solution we are still in the same boat can someone contact abc about the waste gates!
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tke344 Lieutenant 38 Rep 463 Posts Drives: f15 X5 50i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Charlotte iTrader: (1)	I'm guessing the big statement is an official recall.. to upgrade everyone to the 933 pump and new software. With this story in the news BMW needs to do something, even though we all know it isn't a fix.
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tke344 Lieutenant 38 Rep 463 Posts Drives: f15 X5 50i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Charlotte iTrader: (1)	^ I dont even think the pump itself is really improved, I'd guess that the software is masking symptoms and combined with a fresh pump it will last a little longer. Still not a solution.. The fuel system should last the life of a vehicle.
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