[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by Arustik1

I'm in Mass

So you dont need 13% tint. its not that hot up here. and really dark tint on any passenger car is ghetto. The only cars i see dark tints on up here are ricers and those old toyota corolla and redneck looking trucks.

[noro]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

So you dont need 13% tint. its not that hot up here. and really dark tint on any passenger car is ghetto. The only cars i see dark tints on up here are ricers and those old toyota corolla and redneck looking trucks.

Do you need those white vinyl outlines around you head lights? One might argue that's ghetto too.

Now that said I have to admit if you are going to do something that is illegal don't be surprised if you get caught. I drive without my front plates, I know it's not legal and when I get stopped I accept responsibility. I told a police officer out right that I know it's illegal but I like the clean look so don't give me a warning because I am not putting the plates back on.

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by noro

Do you need those white vinyl outlines around you head lights? One might argue that's ghetto too.

Now that said I have to admit if you are going to do something that is illegal don't be surprised if you get caught. I drive without my front plates, I know it's not legal and when I get stopped I accept responsibility. I told a police officer out right that I know it's illegal but I like the clean look so don't give me a warning because I am not putting the plates back on.

Yeah I do,. If i cant remove it I'm gonna cover it. that amber refelctor is fuggin ugly. How come they dont put that on the european bimmers. thats just fukked up.
That being said. Did you get a ticket for the missing plates?? and are u still driving around without the front plates?

[noro]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

Yeah I do,. If i cant remove it I'm gonna cover it. that amber refelctor is fuggin ugly. How come they dont put that on the european bimmers. thats just fukked up.
That being said. Did you get a ticket for the missing plates?? and are u still driving around without the front plates?

So what if he likes the look of tint just like you like the look of the euro lights... not to mention that if we gonna get on the legality wagon, the yellow is required per DOT.

Yes I got a ticket and yes I still have no front plate. In the past 10 years I got pulled of over 2 times for no front plate with a $35 fee and I am willing to live with that frequency.

[kevinbahnz]

Don't you get points for that? that'll affect your insurance rates.

[Staszek]

Not to be rude or anything but with 13% tint you are asking for trouble, a cops job is hard enough as it is without worrying about being shot all the time.

You joke around about what is he afraid of when he walks up slow, hmmmmm what the hell do you think he is afraid of, your car is basically spray painted he has no idea if you are even the owner, you could have stole it and be willing to shoot your way out before going to jail.

Just because you know you didnt do anything wrong doesnt mean the cop is psychic.

I am not a cop and yea some cops do take things a little far, but when it comes to his safety I dont think he was out of line one bit.

I am kind of tired of all the cop bashing on here, grow up. If you are going to pimp your car out with super dark tint and no plate expect to get pulled over. Its just that simple.

[shane335i]

We all like different things. I personally like the tinted look and if you think I am a "wannabe gangsta" because of that you are ignorant! Just because someone likes different things than you do doesnt mean you get to talk down to them. I had my windows tinted but stayed very light so as not to get myself unnecessary tkts. If I could have gone darker I would have. I would not personally go as dark as OP but so what, its his car and he likes it!

Ad for the LEO comments, my problem with it is the attitude that comes with it. I have been pulled over legitimately for speeding and I come clean. No excuses, no BS - just a "sorry, give me my tkt and I will pay it". Its when I get treated like a common criminal that I get uptight. The cops in CA are notorious for this. Basically they cruise around in the wealthier neighborhoods and treat people like they would if you lived in the "hood". I am all for them being safe etc and can understand when they have an attitude because YOU DO! Its when I am polite and they decide to get rude and arrogant that I get pissed off. I dont drive drunk, I dont shoot people or sell drugs, I pay my taxes and have had 2 speeding tkts in 18 years. Perhaps people would be more understanding if cops were polite in their duties and didnt come accross as having the worst "God complex" I have ever seen.

I am sure I will get flamed by the LEO's on here but that is pretty much to be expected and re-inforces what I am saying. Treat people the way you want people to treat you! You will be amazed by how much nicer your job could be. You can still be careful and do what you were trained to do without being rude and condescending! If someone gives you attitude, then by all means dish it back out. But dont START that way with someone. Remember - you are there to protect and serve!

[ejazbmw]

Originally Posted by Staszek

Not to be rude or anything but with 13% tint you are asking for trouble, a cops job is hard enough as it is without worrying about being shot all the time.

You joke around about what is he afraid of when he walks up slow, hmmmmm what the hell do you think he is afraid of, your car is basically spray painted he has no idea if you are even the owner, you could have stole it and be willing to shoot your way out before going to jail.

Just because you know you didnt do anything wrong doesnt mean the cop is psychic.

I am not a cop and yea some cops do take things a little far, but when it comes to his safety I dont think he was out of line one bit.

I am kind of tired of all the cop bashing on here, grow up. If you are going to pimp your car out with super dark tint and no plate expect to get pulled over. Its just that simple.

ok but shouldn't they be catching killers and drug dealers instead of something stupid like no plate or tints? there just bored so they pick on nice cars

[KkSc]

Originally Posted by Staszek

Not to be rude or anything but with 13% tint you are asking for trouble, a cops job is hard enough as it is without worrying about being shot all the time.

You joke around about what is he afraid of when he walks up slow, hmmmmm what the hell do you think he is afraid of, your car is basically spray painted he has no idea if you are even the owner, you could have stole it and be willing to shoot your way out before going to jail.

Just because you know you didnt do anything wrong doesnt mean the cop is psychic.

I am not a cop and yea some cops do take things a little far, but when it comes to his safety I dont think he was out of line one bit.

I am kind of tired of all the cop bashing on here, grow up. If you are going to pimp your car out with super dark tint and no plate expect to get pulled over. Its just that simple.

+1...totally agreed!

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by Arustik1

So last night I was reading up on the lower mesh grill DIY and decided to do it.

This afternoon, I shot over to Lowes and got the can, brush, and bucket...driving home with my girl and I see a statie (undercover) has a guy pulled over and is getting back in his car.

I slowed down with traffic slowing down and passed him (windows up).

My windows are tinted 13% (previously checked by another statie).

I'm in the left lane laughing about how he might pull me over cause looked like he had a stick up his ass, look in the rear view and he's on my tail. I merge into the right lane and watch as he kicks back (probably running my plate).

Next thing I know he's behind me with the blue lights on so I pull over and knew it was for the tints.

I roll the windows down and wait for him only to see him barely as he slowly and cautiously approaches my car (lol, what are you afraid of)?

He asks for my l&r and I hand him my license only to be accused of "having another license in my wallet" -- show him the wallet (no fakes or anything).

Asks me if I knew how dark my tints were and I said no idea.

He comes back with his reader and shows me the 13% and doesn't even let me ask him a question as he walks away with me saying "officer".

He then comes back with a $250 fine.

Crazy thing is I got my car inspected today...and I have no front plate (which he never caught).

I was told by a couple friends to rip the tint off, take some shots of the car, and take it to court with my and ask for the ticket to be dismissed.

What a shitty day...any suggestions? Sorry kinda had to vent.

$16 (supplies) + $250 (ticket) = one expensive lower mesh DIY

just pay the ticket and move on.

[shane335i]

Originally Posted by ejazbmw

ok but shouldn't they be catching killers and drug dealers instead of something stupid like no plate or tints? there just bored so they pick on nice cars

Hahahaha......oh man, you are going to get it for that one! Fact is its easy money but in their defense - they cant have a double standard and only stop shitty cars with tints either so its a lose/lose in that scenario.

[3pnt4maro]

Some cops have attitudes..you cant help that...it is somewhat hard not to be bitter when 90% of what you deal with is the most horrible sides of life, but I do understand what your saying...I treat everyone with respect on any traffic stop I make and go from there...

I stopped a girl the other night for a head light out and speeding...no big deal....it was a statistic for me and I had only planned on giving her a warning, but when I walked up to the car before I could even tell her who I was, the agency I represented, and the reason for the stop, she went off on me for no reason because she had a bad night at work....which is no way to avoid getting a ticket...she was upset because she violated the law, got caught, and it was my fault, there was no one else in the car forcing her to drive like she did...but I still remained professional and courteous and let her off with a warning...not all cops are assholes..so dont make that assumption...I have found in my career that you get alot more flies with honey, even the shitbags still come to you, but there are those very few who dont understand anything but being firm.....for those you really have to police


and as far as catching killers and drug dealers your right we should, and traffic stops are the probable cause to make that contact with a person..a tag light out not to long back led to a buddy of mine getting 7 lbs of marijuana out of a car....marijuana that could have been in route to your neighborhood...

I have arrested a child molester off a traffic stop, not to mention the tons of burglars and robbers we get with warrants off a simple traffic violation.....Like I said its a simply a means to make contact with someone...if you havent done anything wrong other than that I particularly dont care about spending any more time with you trying to develop something else...Its the criminals we want...not joe blow headed home to his wife and kids that pays his taxes, unless your doing something stupid

Once again until you have done our job, dont criticize what we do simply because you think what we do is pointless or bothersome or because we should "be catching killers or drug dealers" remember they drive right beside you down the same streets, and if you think they dont then your out of touch with reality....we have a reason for "messing with" simple traffic violators....Alot of what has been said in this thread has a basis in ignorance...not saying anyone is ignorant or stupid here....but if you dont know how law enforcement works then dont jump to conclusions

its proven that strict traffic enforcement reduces the number of accidents, accidents that could involve you and your family being struck by someone who is careless, speeding, etc....Imagine your city without any officers conducting traffic enforcement, do you know what the end result is...tons of people speeding around for no reason because there is no reason for them not to...what keeps you from doing 120-140mph on the highway consistently..cops!! yeah of course we all get out there and play around, but you realize your taking a chance...but the majority of the time you dont act too stupid because your afraid of a ticket or going to jail....if you say your not then your lying to yourself..again we serve a purpose

Not trying to be an ass, just hoping some of you see the other side of the fence...its easy to sit at home at night, comfortable in your bed, sleeping with your family, and doing your nine to five job when you dont see what else goes on that you simply never hear about because society as a whole doesnt want to hear about it, but were out there dealing with it

somebody has to be out there protecting the streets, while your safe and sound in your bed

which reminds me of our graduating class' slogan

"Sometimes there's justice, Sometimes there's just us..."

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by ejazbmw

ok but shouldn't they be catching killers and drug dealers instead of something stupid like no plate or tints? there just bored so they pick on nice cars

Umm, most drug dealers and criminals i know of drives around in dark(illegal)tinted pimped out rides.

[3pnt4maro]

and most of the people on this board are driving around right now with some infraction, brake light, tag light etc....your no different than that street criminal as far as the probable cause goes for the stop....now the difference is your not a killer or a drug dealer...and once we determine that we generally wont bother you any further, its not you that we want

[bsamoul]

I think that people believe that the cops don't do any good. They are just there to 'protect and serve you'. Which is what their job is.

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by ejazbmw

ok but shouldn't they be catching killers and drug dealers instead of something stupid like no plate or tints? there just bored so they pick on nice cars

How do you think they catch them with their X-Ray vision to see that you have no drugs or guns in your car?

Call it profiling call it what you want, but a ton of drug dealers drive expensive cars with dark tinted windows.

Bored or not the car is illegal, if a car is completely stock you are driving the speed limit and you get pulled over that is picking on someone with a nice car.

Its funny every single time I ever got pulled over I knew I was doing something wrong.

[Staszek]

Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro

Some cops have attitudes..you cant help that...it is somewhat hard not to be bitter when 90% of what you deal with is the most horrible sides of life, but I do understand what your saying...I treat everyone with respect on any traffic stop I make and go from there...

I stopped a girl the other night for a head light out and speeding...no big deal....it was a statistic for me and I had only planned on giving her a warning, but when I walked up to the car before I could even tell her who I was, the agency I represented, and the reason for the stop, she went off on me for no reason because she had a bad night at work....which is no way to avoid getting a ticket...she was upset because she violated the law, got caught, and it was my fault, there was no one else in the car forcing her to drive like she did...but I still remained professional and courteous and let her off with a warning...not all cops are assholes..so dont make that assumption...I have found in my career that you get alot more flies with honey, even the shitbags still come to you, but there are those very few who dont understand anything but being firm.....for those you really have to police


and as far as catching killers and drug dealers your right we should, and traffic stops are the probable cause to make that contact with a person..a tag light out not to long back led to a buddy of mine getting 7 lbs of marijuana out of a car....marijuana that could have been in route to your neighborhood...

I have arrested a child molester off a traffic stop, not to mention the tons of burglars and robbers we get with warrants off a simple traffic violation.....Like I said its a simply a means to make contact with someone...if you havent done anything wrong other than that I particularly dont care about spending any more time with you trying to develop something else...Its the criminals we want...not joe blow headed home to his wife and kids that pays his taxes, unless your doing something stupid

Once again until you have done our job, dont criticize what we do simply because you think what we do is pointless or bothersome or because we should "be catching killers or drug dealers" remember they drive right beside you down the same streets, and if you think they dont then your out of touch with reality....we have a reason for "messing with" simple traffic violators....Alot of what has been said in this thread has a basis in ignorance...not saying anyone is ignorant or stupid here....but if you dont know how law enforcement works then dont jump to conclusions

its proven that strict traffic enforcement reduces the number of accidents, accidents that could involve you and your family being struck by someone who is careless, speeding, etc....Imagine your city without any officers conducting traffic enforcement, do you know what the end result is...tons of people speeding around for no reason because there is no reason for them not to...what keeps you from doing 120-140mph on the highway consistently..cops!! yeah of course we all get out there and play around, but you realize your taking a chance...but the majority of the time you dont act too stupid because your afraid of a ticket or going to jail....if you say your not then your lying to yourself..again we serve a purpose

Not trying to be an ass, just hoping some of you see the other side of the fence...its easy to sit at home at night, comfortable in your bed, sleeping with your family, and doing your nine to five job when you dont see what else goes on that you simply never hear about because society as a whole doesnt want to hear about it, but were out there dealing with it

somebody has to be out there protecting the streets, while your safe and sound in your bed

which reminds me of our graduating class' slogan

"Sometimes there's justice, Sometimes there's just us..."

Exactly what I was trying to say.

[noro]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

Don't you get points for that? that'll affect your insurance rates.

One of very few violations in mass that will not add an SDIP point... which is strange because you get a point for not doing your inspection for example.

[ejazbmw]

Originally Posted by shane335i

Hahahaha......oh man, you are going to get it for that one! Fact is its easy money but in their defense - they cant have a double standard and only stop shitty cars with tints either so its a lose/lose in that scenario.

lol i just call it as i see it man most people won't agree with me and thats fine because i don't agree with a lot crap people write here....

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

Umm, most drug dealers and criminals i know of drives around in dark(illegal)tinted pimped out rides.

lol i have 40% tints which you can completely see through and i got 2 tint tickets....

Originally Posted by Staszek

How do you think they catch them with their X-Ray vision to see that you have no drugs or guns in your car?

Call it profiling call it what you want, but a ton of drug dealers drive expensive cars with dark tinted windows.

Bored or not the car is illegal, if a car is completely stock you are driving the speed limit and you get pulled over that is picking on someone with a nice car.

Its funny every single time I ever got pulled over I knew I was doing something wrong.

ok first off........claim down your talking this subject way to serious
I'm just saying most cops are dicks about stupid little things like no front plate and tints....thats my opinion deal with it foo

[shane335i]

Originally Posted by 3pnt4maro

Some cops have attitudes..you cant help that...it is somewhat hard not to be bitter when 90% of what you deal with is the most horrible sides of life, but I do understand what your saying...I treat everyone with respect on any traffic stop I make and go from there...

I stopped a girl the other night for a head light out and speeding...no big deal....it was a statistic for me and I had only planned on giving her a warning, but when I walked up to the car before I could even tell her who I was, the agency I represented, and the reason for the stop, she went off on me for no reason because she had a bad night at work....which is no way to avoid getting a ticket...she was upset because she violated the law, got caught, and it was my fault, there was no one else in the car forcing her to drive like she did...but I still remained professional and courteous and let her off with a warning...not all cops are assholes..so dont make that assumption...I have found in my career that you get alot more flies with honey, even the shitbags still come to you, but there are those very few who dont understand anything but being firm.....for those you really have to police


and as far as catching killers and drug dealers your right we should, and traffic stops are the probable cause to make that contact with a person..a tag light out not to long back led to a buddy of mine getting 7 lbs of marijuana out of a car....marijuana that could have been in route to your neighborhood...

I have arrested a child molester off a traffic stop, not to mention the tons of burglars and robbers we get with warrants off a simple traffic violation.....Like I said its a simply a means to make contact with someone...if you havent done anything wrong other than that I particularly dont care about spending any more time with you trying to develop something else...Its the criminals we want...not joe blow headed home to his wife and kids that pays his taxes, unless your doing something stupid

Once again until you have done our job, dont criticize what we do simply because you think what we do is pointless or bothersome or because we should "be catching killers or drug dealers" remember they drive right beside you down the same streets, and if you think they dont then your out of touch with reality....we have a reason for "messing with" simple traffic violators....Alot of what has been said in this thread has a basis in ignorance...not saying anyone is ignorant or stupid here....but if you dont know how law enforcement works then dont jump to conclusions

its proven that strict traffic enforcement reduces the number of accidents, accidents that could involve you and your family being struck by someone who is careless, speeding, etc....Imagine your city without any officers conducting traffic enforcement, do you know what the end result is...tons of people speeding around for no reason because there is no reason for them not to...what keeps you from doing 120-140mph on the highway consistently..cops!! yeah of course we all get out there and play around, but you realize your taking a chance...but the majority of the time you dont act too stupid because your afraid of a ticket or going to jail....if you say your not then your lying to yourself..again we serve a purpose

Not trying to be an ass, just hoping some of you see the other side of the fence...its easy to sit at home at night, comfortable in your bed, sleeping with your family, and doing your nine to five job when you dont see what else goes on that you simply never hear about because society as a whole doesnt want to hear about it, but were out there dealing with it

somebody has to be out there protecting the streets, while your safe and sound in your bed

which reminds me of our graduating class' slogan

"Sometimes there's justice, Sometimes there's just us..."

Assuming you are addressing me, I agree with most of what you said, in fact almost all of it. I agree its always easy to assume things especially when we havent been there ourselves. I, for one, can tell you I have been involved in a very similar line of "work" where friends were killed and we constantly had to worry about not seeing the end of the next day.

You have a right to defend yourself against these "generalizations", I most likely would too. Its a situation where the bad ones wreck it for the good ones right? I am not pointing fingers directly at anyone and only speak to what i have seen and experienced. I would simply like to see more LEO's treat the people with a little more respect assuming they are not getting yelled at like the situation with this woman was yelling at you because she was frustrated. She was just plain stupid and deserved what she got.

Here is a quick example for you although we are really far off topic. I was riding my bicycle 2 weeks ago and came off a downhill, just freewheeling along and I was pulled over. Turns out I was doing 10mph over the speed limit!! Initially I was proud and thought it humorous really. LEO asked me for my ID and I said, "Sorry sir, I dont have it with me, its in my car". I was not a smart-ass AT ALL. I was nice, respectful and polite. the guy flew off the deep end! I dont even remember all the stuff he said but he laid into me 2nd to none. I was on an empty road with no traffic ON A BICYCLE!!! If we are talking "black and white". Yes, I was speeding but did I really need to get pulled over on my bicycle while I was freewheeling off a hill. And even so, why treat me like a freaking loser and criminal for something like that. I gave him all my details as I know my DL number. He said he couldnt give me a tkt without seeing my ID??? He said if he catches me again riding anywhere on HIS streets without ID he would take me to jail. Seriously.......was this really necessary? He ran my info and obviously saw I had no tkts etc and clearly I was not dealing drugs from my bicycle or performing a drive by shooting!

Anyway - we could go back and forth on these things forever. Cops are necessary. I just wish there was a better system in place to monitor and review their behavior. I figure I might as well just be a jerk with the way I got treated anyway.

-shane

PS - you are absolutely right, I would be hauling around at 120mph RIGHT NOW if I thought I could get away with it! LOL.

[shane335i]

Originally Posted by ejazbmw

lol i just call it as i see it man most people won't agree with me and thats fine because i don't agree with a lot crap people write here....

[kevinbahnz]

when you say bicycle. you mean a motorcycle , right?? I hope you did. cause if it was really a bicycle. then thats one messed up cop that should take a few weeks off, and get some anger managment skills.