[Dominus]

Been playing with the Xdrive in the snow

then I got too confident




I dont think thatll buff out

[BigTexas335]

Dear god that sucks man

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by BigTexas335

Dear god that sucks man

i know. luckily no mechanical damage, though 4x4 light came on for a minute. and the splitters are cheapo ebay ones that ive been meaning to replace.

My options now are:
1: price out paint
2: ///M Sideskirt and hope the door buffs
3: clean it up and wrap it like i planned

4: sell it and lease an f30 . . .

[wdeerfield]

video private, what did you hit?

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by wdeerfield

video private, what did you hit?

didnt realize youtube defaulted to private. should be fixed.

counter-steered into a ditch with a rocky bank
didnt get stuck though Xdrive FTW!

[AndySix]

Sorry for you, dude!

Xdrive is too efficient. Makes the car go to fast in the snow.
With RWD you can have lots of slow-mo fun almost without any risk!

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by AndySix

Sorry for you, dude!

Xdrive is too efficient. Makes the car go to fast in the snow.
With RWD you can have lots of slow-mo fun almost without any risk!

Too Efficient INDEED! but its so nice to pass jeeps and trucks uphill while their 4 wheel drives are spinning out

Pros and Cons both ways i suppose so it wont be a deciding factor for the next car. just as long as it isnt FWD

[DOMs335D]

Sorry to see that but drifting in the snow is just too addicting

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by DOMs335D

Sorry to see that but drifting in the snow is just too addicting

I had to have made at least 30-40 runs that night on different roads from midnight till 5am. it wasnt until the following day that i put it into the ditch.

[eric@helix]

Bummer. Been there myself.

[Mike.]

Id go with the whatever the cheaper option is between wrapping/painting it. Then I would wait a year and get a CPO f30 and make it a FBO f30 ha

[Averdi]

i was having some fun too and then i fishtailed and went right up on a curb…very surpinsgly there was no damage. good luck!!

[DOMs335D]

Originally Posted by Dominus

Too Efficient INDEED! but its so nice to pass jeeps and trucks uphill while their 4 wheel drives are spinning out

Pros and Cons both ways i suppose so it wont be a deciding factor for the next car. just as long as it isnt FWD

+1

[blackbeast06]

Snow drifting is so much fun, so fun that we sometimes forget about the consequences.

[_Sinister_]

BMW is not the best cars to do stunts in lol maybe a subaru or an evo for their ride hight would have been a better choice

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by _Sinister_

BMW is not the best cars to do stunts in lol maybe a subaru or an evo for their ride hight would have been a better choice

except either way id have them both lowered lol.

[AlpineSwift]

Xdrive is unpredictable sometimes when you really get sideways (for fun). Noticed it the first time I put my blizzaks on and went out to a parking lot. The system shifting the power around even with DSC and DTC off can be a hazard if you aren't aware of where the power is going. I've had a couple close calls because of it even in open spaces.

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

Xdrive is unpredictable sometimes when you really get sideways (for fun). Noticed it the first time I put my blizzaks on and went out to a parking lot. The system shifting the power around even with DSC and DTC off can be a hazard if you aren't aware of where the power is going. I've had a couple close calls because of it even in open spaces.

ive never had a problem with predictability with DTC and DSC off . . .

i have winter tires as well (hankook iPikes) and as the video shows it runs just fine. i ran into the ditch because of user error. the road had more ice (from previous sessions) than i thought and it swung out further than i wanted and i overreacted with the counter-steer.

can anyone confirm how xdrive works when dtc and dsc is off? i thought it just defaulted to 60/40.

[AlpineSwift]

Pulled this off another site for reference:

The normal state of the stability/traction control systems (no lights on) is DSC on (DSC: Dynamic Stability Control). As noted, in this mode the car will brake individual wheels and/or override the throttle as needed, to keep the vehicle on course and suppress almost all wheelspin.

Pressing the traction control button once, briefly, actually switches DTC on (Dynamic Traction Control). DTC tolerates considerable wheelspin to improve loose-surface traction (snow, gravel, sand). It also raises the threshold for DSC's yaw-control intervention. DSC is still active, but it will wait for you to get further out of shape before attempting to save you.

Pressing and holding the DTC/traction button for 2+ seconds turns DTC and DSC off. Now you're back in 1980 and the only thing keeping the car on line is your own wits & skill. However, the xDrive dynamic torque-bias control is still active (can only be disabled by pulling a fuse), which still keeps the car considerably more stable than a rear-driver with DSC off.

[Dominus]

Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

However, the xDrive dynamic torque-bias control is still active (can only be disabled by pulling a fuse), which still keeps the car considerably more stable than a rear-driver with DSC off.

thanks, you learn something new every day. i guess i never felt the difference. i wonder how active this torque bias control is. . .

[AlpineSwift]

Originally Posted by Dominus

thanks, you learn something new every day. i guess i never felt the difference. i wonder how active this torque bias control is. . .

It's supposed to be almost instantaneous. Don't know how accurate that statement is but I definitely feel it when it happens. Don't know if that's because you're in an E90 and I'm in an E92 or if I'm just more used to RWD so feeling the front kick in more/less bite is easier for me to notice.

[Mardio]

I feel ya man, bummer.