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      04-02-2009, 09:39 AM   #23
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It would not be in the best interest for a company like BT or any other diagnostic tool company with coding capabilities to provide TPMS disablement as it is a federal regulation to have TPMS function in all new passenger cars sold today(please correct me if I am wrong).

TPMS is no longer is a warning light, such as low fuel, coolant, or windshield washer fluid. It is a MIL or "Malfunction Indicator Lamp", like the check engine light/service engine soon light we see in our BMW's.

Disablement of TPMS or CEL is against federal regulations.
Can't they just cover their ass by saying that it is for "offroad use only." I say this coming from the mindset that its also a federal requirement to have cats on your car, but you don't see exhaust manufacturers who make testpipes run into any legal issues. I see your point though.
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      04-02-2009, 10:25 AM   #24
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Can't they just cover their ass by saying that it is for "offroad use only." I say this coming from the mindset that its also a federal requirement to have cats on your car, but you don't see exhaust manufacturers who make testpipes run into any legal issues. I see your point though.
I guess that is for BT and other diagnostic tool companies to find out if they decide to release the coding for none TPMS diablement.

It's up to the independent/performance/tire shop to determine if they should or should not be doing that.
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can the BT diagnostic tool tell me whats wrong with my tpms system?
i took it to the dealer and they say i have to pay them so they see whats wrong with it cuz i got aftermarket rims and coilovers....
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The TPMS light has bailed me out a couple times.
One time I got the light on just before going to Vegas.
If I had the TPMS dissabled, i would have been on the 15 in the middle of no where with a flat.
I do have a pump in the back with the soultion, but I will do whatever it takes to not use that.
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      08-24-2009, 01:49 PM   #27
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TPMS Disablement

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The Transportation Recall Enhancement, Accountability and
Documentation (TREAD) Act was passed in the fall of 2000.
The TREAD Act mandated that every new car manufactured for sale in
the U.S. after September 1, 2007 must be equipped with sensors that
monitor the pressure in all four tires. Sensors installed in the vehicle’s
wheels send a signal via RF to the vehicles computer. The computer
then processes the sensor data to alert the driver if pressure drops
25% below the specified cold placard pressure for the tire.

In section III (C) (5) of the TREAD ACT, "The June 2002 final rule did not permit disablement of the TPMS, as it is the agency�s normal practice not to allow safety systems to be disabled. Paragraphs S4.2.1 and S4.2.2 stated that the TPMS telltale must continue to illuminate as long as any of the vehicle�s tires is experiencing under-inflation at the level specified under each option when the ignition locking system is in the "On" ("Run") position. The preamble to the TPMS final rule specifically stated that NHTSA decided to prohibit any control that automatically disables the TPMS under any condition, dismissing arguments for even temporary disablement of the system."

The BT tool 300 or 400 is designed to determine which TPMS sensor has malfunctioned and is also designed in the relearn procedures. It is not designed to disable the TPMS system...direct or indirect.
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      08-24-2009, 03:37 PM   #28
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just get new sensors i mean an individual will already be spending over a grand on wheels and tires whats another hundred or so when u are already spending that much.
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From my 15mintues or so with it hooked up over the weekend, here is a brief rundown:

1. Can view and clear codes and shadow codes for each system. (ECU, Transmission, PDC, Fuel pump, Steering sensors, DTC, etc)

2. Reset adaptation data on certain systems (transmission, ecu, fuel, etc.)

3. Can be used to trouble shoot with activation commands.
-Say for instance, with my old car, my cruise control would not work. So i took my car to a shop with the GT1(i believe). With this software (and BT) you can activate the cruise control indicators thru the software to help narrow down the problem. It will also acctivate certain equipment thru the software to verify signals are being sent. From the manual:

The Activations option allows you to start and stop supported available components within the car for troubleshooting purposes. The tool supports components ranging from the engine fan to injection valves. For example, to confirm all indicators of the instrument cluster are working properly, use this feature to turn them on, or “activate” them.

4. It CANT enable alarms, disable drls, disable tpms or other systems, but can identify faults within.

5. It can datalog multiple parameters

Hope this clears things up. If you have any questions, i can try and help you out.
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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks View Post
It would not be in the best interest for a company like BT or any other diagnostic tool company with coding capabilities to provide TPMS disablement as it is a federal regulation to have TPMS function in all new passenger cars sold today(please correct me if I am wrong).

TPMS is no longer is a warning light, such as low fuel, coolant, or windshield washer fluid. It is a MIL or "Malfunction Indicator Lamp", like the check engine light/service engine soon light we see in our BMW's.

Disablement of TPMS or CEL is against federal regulations.

... and NOBODY has been disabling CEL's on modded cars. That's just unheard of.
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ok i got the bt tool but it dosent even tell me whats wrong with the tpms or which sensor is acting up i cant find the tpms thing in the menu
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Can the BT tool get me a date with Jessica Alba?
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eas or one of the vendors sells something now that will cancel out the TPMS system. Can be set on or off based on holding the window switches, looks to be a pretty neat set up.
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ok i got the bt tool but it dosent even tell me whats wrong with the tpms or which sensor is acting up i cant find the tpms thing in the menu
It is probably listed under a weird category: i.e. stability control, ecu, etc

Run a short test in the function pull down menu, it should bring up the code.
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It is probably listed under a weird category: i.e. stability control, ecu, etc

Run a short test in the function pull down menu, it should bring up the code.
i did and everything came up ok... and i still cant find the tpms
has anyone tried to look at the tpms on the bt tool? maybe mine is messed up ??
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Do you have metal valve stem caps?

You might need to recalibrate the system. Should be in the manual how to do it. Try that.
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Nope....

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Can't they just cover their ass by saying that it is for "offroad use only." I say this coming from the mindset that its also a federal requirement to have cats on your car, but you don't see exhaust manufacturers who make testpipes run into any legal issues. I see your point though.

...no Federal regulation recognizes the term "off road use only" and there is no legal loophole for exhaust manufacturers either.

There have been numerous NHTSA rulings stating, in effect, that if a part can be attached to a vehicle that can be registered/titled then that part needs to comply with all applicable requirements.

If short, there is no legal loophole. The people selling aftermarket lighting, catless exhausts and devices to disable Federally mandated safety gear are doing it illegally - sometimes the NHTSA goes on a rampage and starts requiring recalls and levies fines - a very expensive proposition...
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Do you have metal valve stem caps?

You might need to recalibrate the system. Should be in the manual how to do it. Try that.
yes i have metal valve caps, do you think thats whats why its malfunctioning??
i have tried to recalibrate it but it dose not work...
thanks for your help
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I think Audi guys can do this with Vacom or whatever it is called.
VAG COM is worlds better than the BT cable though.
I loved that thing!!
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      08-26-2009, 04:17 PM   #40
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yes, take off the metal valve caps. It will cause interference with the system. Put some plastic caps on and clear the system and see if the fault clears.
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VAG COM is worlds better than the BT cable though.
I loved that thing!!
VAG for Audi, Volkswagen, Skoda, Seat, but not BMW, right?
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Another option is to get an emulation module from Macht Schnell
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