3 stage intake manifold

BudVlad · 10-27-2010, 09:18 AM

After 3 tries with software finally success: 183.1 kW (249 hp) gain of 36.3 kW (49.4 hp) at the wheel. 280.8 Nm (207 f/p) gain of 36.5 Nm (27 f/p).

Firs try 330i software

Second try Wintertuning

Software reload by BMW

Third try DS Motorsport

e90pilot · 10-27-2010, 09:25 AM

Hmm... Nice! Now, by 249hp do you mean ps? 250 to the wheels is pretty damn good even if the dyno is generous.

BudVlad · 10-27-2010, 09:44 AM

249 is wheel horsepower. It’s totally different car!
This guy is really professional, not like backyard Wintertuning. He has showroom with M1, M3s, 2002 Tis and race prepared cars.

I drove 700 km home from Freudenberg Germany and the fuel consumption was 9.2 l/km (21.6 MPG US).

3002 tii · 10-27-2010, 10:02 AM

what other mods do you have? how did you put 249 to the wheels when those are crank numbers for a stock 330i?

BlackBimmer1991 · 10-27-2010, 10:09 AM

can you take a 335 now? haha

BudVlad · 10-27-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dubbedown

what other mods do you have? how did you put 249 to the wheels when those are crank numbers for a stock 330i?

I have Remus exhaust and BMW Performance intake.
330i with N53 has 272 bhp. I have N53B30 engine.

benzo23 · 10-27-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBimmer1991

can you take a 335 now? haha

Easily since there sitting on the side of the highway with there failed HPFP...HAHAHAHAHA

BudVlad · 10-27-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by benzo23

Easily since there sitting on the side of the highway with there failed HPFP...HAHAHAHAHA

Unfortunately I have the same HPFP as 335i but my car doesn’t overheat, I don’t have turbo lag and my car is much lighter.

Digitalinkartist · 10-27-2010, 11:15 AM

Wow, very impressive results

A few questions:
What octane were you running for the test?
Are you 6 spd manual?

Your complete mod list includes: remus exhaust, BMW Perf Intake, 3-stage 330 intake manifold swap

BudVlad · 10-27-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Digitalinkartist

Wow, very impressive results

A few questions:
What octane were you running for the test?
Are you 6 spd manual?

Your complete mod list includes: remus exhaust, BMW Perf Intake, 3-stage 330 intake manifold swap

I had Shell V power racing 100 octane. I use only 100 octane (Euro).
6 speed manual.

Gavin@MMW · 10-27-2010, 11:55 AM

Wow 249 at the wheels?

What kind of dyno is that?

Can you do any 0-62 runs?

guerilla twang · 10-27-2010, 12:09 PM

+1 nice numbers.

DimSum · 10-27-2010, 12:25 PM

Good job Vlad, but where is DS Wintertuning in Toronto?

benzo23 · 10-27-2010, 12:28 PM

If they could get that tune, on to a cd or a flash drive or its own obd port something rather for cheap money, and just swap manifolds this would sell ALL DAY

BudVlad · 10-27-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Craven 328

Wow 249 at the wheels?

What kind of dyno is that?

Can you do any 0-62 runs?

The dyno is Bosch.
If I get a chance I will time the acceleration. I can definitely feel the power increase, it’s a different car than before.

mike-y · 10-27-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by benzo23

If they could get that tune, on to a cd or a flash drive or its own obd port something rather for cheap money, and just swap manifolds this would sell ALL DAY

maybe.. but remember, he has an N53 motor, not an N52 like most of us, so I'd imagine there would have to be different fuel tuning. But at least we could get the changes in valve lift, which seems to be the item that most tuners have not really been able to change.

3002 tii · 10-27-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mike-y

maybe.. but remember, he has an N53 motor, not an N52 like most of us, so I'd imagine there would have to be different fuel tuning. But at least we could get the changes in valve lift, which seems to be the item that most tuners have not really been able to change.

but I thought hte N53 wasn't even available in North America (incl. Canada)? It was only released for the European market... maybe I'm wrong?

Trelos · 10-27-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dubbedown

but I thought hte N53 wasn't even available in North America (incl. Canada)? It was only released for the European market... maybe I'm wrong?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BudVlad

I drove 700 km home from Freudenberg Germany and the fuel consumption was 9.2 l/km (21.6 MPG US).

I think he's in Germany... that would explain the N53

e90pilot · 10-27-2010, 03:44 PM

Well, he said ealier that he drove from Freudenburg, Germany. I don't think we're getting the N53 in any country in North America. I am curious about the tuning applications. It seems there's more room in the DI cars. How does your conversion compare to a tuned 330i?

5erman · 10-27-2010, 04:08 PM

The n53 does not have valvetronic so no valvelift to play with through the software-it uses regular camshafts that cannot be modified by ecu to change lift. It uses a traditional throttle body to control air.

It is a direct inejcted engine which accoutns for its abilifty to produce more horsepower as you can be much more aggressive as the DI cools the combustion chamber so you can run higher compressions, more timing and leaner mixtures all creating more HP

mike-y · 10-27-2010, 05:35 PM

ahh, yes, that's right.. the N53 has dual Vanos, not valvetronic. So nothing for us North American folks. Move along, nothing to see here.

BudVlad · 10-28-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 5erman

The n53 does not have valvetronic so no valvelift to play with through the software-it uses regular camshafts that cannot be modified by ecu to change lift. It uses a traditional throttle body to control air.

BTW: I live in Toronto but I work in Europe where the car is.
It would be much cheaper to bring 328i from Canada but in 2008 I couldn’t get the M Sport package and the potential of N53 engine made me to get the car in Europe.

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