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02-19-2011, 09:07 AM | #243 |
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I am not an expert but can speak from recent experience. I just did the rear on my car with M3 subframe bushings, m3 rear sway, M3 rear guide rod and Velocity rear toe arms. I did not do the rear wishbones.
I already had Koni yellow shocks and BMW performance yellow springs, M3 front bits and M3 front swaybar. The overall improvement was dramatic. As best I can tell, the subframe bushinngs were absolutely the most important change. The M3 bushings eliminate 80-90% of the rear end deflection and "slop" in aggressive cornering. They also remove much of the deflection felt on hard acceleration, where it almost felt like I was stretching a rubber band in the back. I think the arms are also contributing to the improvement, but to a lesser extent. Hard to tell, as I did them all at the same time. I was advised by Harold at HP Autowerks and Matt at Camber-Toe on this and their advice is highly reliable. With regard to the M3 rear swaybar, I am very happy I did this. The labor is basically already included when you are doing subframe bushings. It is way stiffer than stock and the car corners much much flatter. My springs are not too stiff so the sway does not hurt cornering traction all that much. I am told that with really stiff springs (eg Bilstein coilovers), that the M3 rear sway can hurt traction more if you're running without LSD (as I am). There is a lot written on this topic by people who know more than me. So, in your situation and thinking about budget, I'd do all the front pieces, the subframe bushings, maybe the M3 rear sway, and of course the coilovers and then drive it and see if the other rear M3 parts are needed. |
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02-19-2011, 10:02 AM | #244 | |
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also another question for whoever can respond. what is the install like for the other three links (steering rod, camber link and trailing arms) are they pretty straight forward so they wont require much labor? |
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02-19-2011, 07:29 PM | #245 | |
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02-19-2011, 07:45 PM | #246 |
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Yep. I've been doing research and am familiar with the install process of the bushings but not too familiar with the other 3 links and if they would involve dripping the subframe. I wouldn't think so but we all know the over engineering
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yea i was thinking about just doing all the things that i can do in my garage that dont need an alignment. (upper front and the 3 rear links). then get coils rear sway, bushings. dont think ill be able to mustard the coils and diff. at the same time Last edited by CubanJJ09; 02-22-2011 at 12:48 PM.. |
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02-22-2011, 12:47 PM | #249 | |
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http://www.hpashop.com/product.sc?pr...categoryId=176 The rear lower camber link conversion kit will require the use of M3 style rear dampers as well. |
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02-22-2011, 12:53 PM | #251 |
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so were on the same page #4 cant be used
http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...16&hg=33&fg=30 what other part do i need to get? |
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Thanks again. I wanna get some bilsteins if I do a coilover so that kills that
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02-23-2011, 08:28 PM | #254 |
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Harold back to using the m3 dampers with the camber link. This guy seemed to use it with the bilstein coilovers. Maybe Im not understanding the definition of dampers
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Dampers is just another term for shocks. |
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02-23-2011, 09:15 PM | #256 |
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02-23-2011, 09:33 PM | #257 |
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When getting the car aligned after install of the M3 parts what specs should I be shooting for. I would seldom be tracking the car, and would rather not shred through front tires.
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02-23-2011, 10:52 PM | #258 |
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Any way to modify the lower camber links to accept the bilstein shocks? I see koni and another brand work but I currently have bilstein.
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I see your point with the stud and eye mounts. So both end need to have eye mounts then?
The m3 only has one eye mount as well http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...10&hg=33&fg=45 |
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