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[odariel]

Hello guys,

i made a search, and i have been reading a bit about it but most of the threads seem to refer to pre lci models which have more room to accomodate bigger wheels...

I read in a thread that LCI models have 8mm less than pre E92's... is that number correct?

I am thinking about getting a set of Forgestar F14s... I want my car to keep on handling well and don't rub... i want the wheels to look flush (or as flush as it can be without rubbing and rolling fenders..)

I guess these are the logical choices:
BACK: 19X9,5 super deep concave OFFSET ???
FRONT: 19x9 semi concave OFFSET ???

i don't want my car to have a huge difference in concavity in the front and the back, like this one:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=816527

So, i don't know if i should go with deep concaves on the back instead of super deep concaves... (the second ones look better, but i think that the car will look more balanced with the first ones...)

Deep concave in the front and superdeep in the back would have been perfect, but the smallest for the deep is 9,5 which i believe it is too much for the front...

So the other option would be
BACK: 19X9,5 deep concave OFFSET ???
FRONT: 19x9 semi concave OFFSET ???

As you can see i am all doubts...
Thoughts? Recommendations?? Best combo and ets for both options??

Lastly, i plan on wrapping them in Michelin PSS

Thanks in advance!

[bmw325i]

9.5 et33 will fit up front with a 235/35/19 easily, so deep concave should work up front.

You could do 11 et38 with a 265/30/19 super deep concave in the rear, but you would need to roll the rears.

The lci e90 has wider track than the prelci e90. The e92 is the same whether its lci or prelci.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ght=19x11+et33

[odariel]

Originally Posted by bmw325i

9.5 et33 will fit up front with a 235/35/19 easily, so deep concave should work up front.

You could do 11 et38 with a 265/30/19 super deep concave in the rear, but you would need to roll the rears.

The lci e90 has wider track than the prelci e90. The e92 is the same whether its lci or prelci.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ght=19x11+et33

Many thanks for your response, and sorry for my late reply, i went on holiday the day after posting this an i came back just last week.

Sooo, my car has the same room to accomodate wheels as the pre models, that's good, thanks for confirming that for me.

Now onto the wheels, i've got questions!

I see that deep concave in the front is needed so the wheels look balanced, but why do i need to go 11 at the back instead of 10?? (bear with me, i am a noob regarding this) I thought that with 11 width i had to go with a minimum of 275... wouldn't the 265 be too streched??? and why 11 instead of 10?

Also what about dinamics?? won't my car become a bit sluggish with so much tyre??


TIA

[bmw325i]

Originally Posted by odariel

Many thanks for your response, and sorry for my late reply, i went on holiday the day after posting this an i came back just last week.

Sooo, my car has the same room to accomodate wheels as the pre models, that's good, thanks for confirming that for me.

Now onto the wheels, i've got questions!

I see that deep concave in the front is needed so the wheels look balanced, but why do i need to go 11 at the back instead of 10?? (bear with me, i am a noob regarding this) I thought that with 11 width i had to go with a minimum of 275... wouldn't the 265 be too streched??? and why 11 instead of 10?

Also what about dinamics?? won't my car become a bit sluggish with so much tyre??


TIA

You don't have to go with an 11 rear, but you can. 9.5/11 are about the widest you can fit easily.

[Projekt_BooGie]

question....so you want to run stretched tires??? B/c that'll make a difference. You can run 9(+25)/10(+25) and that'll put your wheels flush with your fenders, but you would have to run stretched tires. Doing this, you could run the semi/super deep set up. Which I think would keep everything pretty close.

[odariel]

Originally Posted by bmw325i

You don't have to go with an 11 rear, but you can. 9.5/11 are about the widest you can fit easily.

But i mean, won't the dynamics suffer even more running 11 instead of 10?? ( i mean if i wrap them in the tyre that i should)... Also, i suppose that with 11 means either running streched tyres or roll the rears more aggressively than with 10 if i want to fit the proper tyres...

Why so keen on the 11, does the concavity change so much between 10 and 11??

Thanks again for your help!

Originally Posted by ACEE

question....so you want to run stretched tires??? B/c that'll make a difference. You can run 9(+25)/10(+25) and that'll put your wheels flush with your fenders, but you would have to run stretched tires. Doing this, you could run the semi/super deep set up. Which I think would keep everything pretty close.

Not really, actually i rather not. I rather have some tyre there to protect the wheel.. Alsto semi + super deep looks odd to me.. take a look at the link in the initial post... it doesn't look balanced..

THanks for your input!

[bmw325i]

Originally Posted by odariel

But i mean, won't the dynamics suffer even more running 11 instead of 10?? ( i mean if i wrap them in the tyre that i should)... Also, i suppose that with 11 means either running streched tyres or roll the rears more aggressively than with 10 if i want to fit the proper tyres...

Why so keen on the 11, does the concavity change so much between 10 and 11??

Thanks again for your help!



Not really, actually i rather not. I rather have some tyre there to protect the wheel.. Alsto semi + super deep looks odd to me.. take a look at the link in the initial post... it doesn't look balanced..

THanks for your input!

The 11 is the most aggressive/concave size you can fit easily. You would need slightly stretched and rolled fenders of course, but if you don't want stretched tires the 10" might work better for you. I doubt you would notice a difference in how the car drives either way, but like you said there is less protection for the rims.

I think 19x9 et35 front 19x10 et35 rear would be best for you. with a 235/35/19 and 265/30/19. It won't be flush, but about as close as you can get without stretching tires or rolling fenders.

[Projekt_BooGie]

Originally Posted by odariel

Why so keen on the 11, does the concavity change so much between 10 and 11??

Normally offset determines concavity. So the lower your offset the deeper the concavity. (in most instance, I would double check with forgestar about this)

Originally Posted by bmw325i

The 11 is the most aggressive/concave size you can fit easily. You would need slightly stretched and rolled fenders of course, but if you don't want stretched tires the 10" might work better for you. I doubt you would notice a difference in how the car drives either way, but like you said there is less protection for the rims.

I think 19x9 et35 front 19x10 et35 rear would be best for you. with a 235/35/19 and 265/30/19. It won't be flush, but about as close as you can get without stretching tires or rolling fenders.

If you wouldn't mind at least getting a roll I would say go with +30 offsets all the way around.

[odariel]

Originally Posted by bmw325i

The 11 is the most aggressive/concave size you can fit easily. You would need slightly stretched and rolled fenders of course, but if you don't want stretched tires the 10" might work better for you. I doubt you would notice a difference in how the car drives either way, but like you said there is less protection for the rims.

I think 19x9 et35 front 19x10 et35 rear would be best for you. with a 235/35/19 and 265/30/19. It won't be flush, but about as close as you can get without stretching tires or rolling fenders.

The thing is the front has to be 9.5, it is the minimum size they make the deep concave... 9 would be more appropiate for my car, but they don't make the deep concave in 9, so its a no go...

Regarding rolling the fenders, you convinced me to roll the rears a bit if needed...
What i don't know is if i should /could roll the front fenders... i am running M3 replica fenders at the moment, but since they are ABS plastic, i don't know if they can be rolled... (the original front fenders are also made of plastic)

So if i understood correctly, it has to be something like this:

FRONT 19"x 9.5 DEEP CONCAVE | OFFSET: 33 235/35/19
BACK: 19"x10 SUPER DEEP CONCAVE | OFFSET: ?? 265/30/19

This way the wheels will look pretty flush right?? ( i know, not completely, but will look good...) and i only need to roll the rears a bit... correct me if i am wrong

By the way, this is my car... With foglight delete ala 335is and M3 replica fenders (minus the ///M3 logo)

I hope it ends up looking somewhere along the lines of the M3 of the last pic!!!

Thanks again for your help!

[bmw325i]

Originally Posted by odariel

The thing is the front has to be 9.5, it is the minimum size they make the deep concave... 9 would be more appropiate for my car, but they don't make the deep concave in 9, so its a no go...

Regarding rolling the fenders, you convinced me to roll the rears a bit if needed...
What i don't know is if i should /could roll the front fenders... i am running M3 replica fenders at the moment, but since they are ABS plastic, i don't know if they can be rolled... (the original front fenders are also made of plastic)

So if i understood correctly, it has to be something like this:

FRONT 19"x 9.5 DEEP CONCAVE | OFFSET: 33 235/35/19
BACK: 19"x10 SUPER DEEP CONCAVE | OFFSET: ?? 265/30/19

This way the wheels will look pretty flush right?? ( i know, not completely, but will look good...) and i only need to roll the rears a bit... correct me if i am wrong

By the way, this is my car... With foglight delete ala 335is and M3 replica fenders (minus the ///M3 logo)

I hope it ends up looking somewhere along the lines of the M3 of the last pic!!!

Thanks again for your help!

The reason I suggested the 11" rear is because it would work better with the 9.5 up front.

With 9.5/10 there is 1/2" difference in the width of the wheels from front to back and about 1 & 1/4" difference in the width of the tires. You will have a slightly stretched front tire and no stretch on the rear tire. Not sure if this matters to you.


Another option is to run 9.5 et30 up front 9.5 et20 in the rear with either 235/35/19 or 245/35/19 all around. This may or may not need a slight roll in the rear. The front will be fine.

[hawaiianeze]

Concavity of the wheel is preset for all SDC wheels as well as Deep concave. Widths and offsets do not play a factor with these wheels. If you go with 9.5 and 11 you need to go deep concave in front, SDC with the offsets you want will not work due to brake caliper clearance. I'd suggest a 9 and 10 setup

[CarEnthused]

Originally Posted by hawaiianeze

If you go with 9.5 and 11 you need to go deep concave in front, SDC with the offsets you want will not work due to brake caliper clearance.

That's simply not true. We have at least one member running 19x11 SDC in the rear with 19x9.5 SDC in the front. Check out Gunda's thread.

EDIT: BTW I don't mean any disrespect. I just don't understand where the brake caliper thing that I keep hearing about came from as it's been disproven already

[hawaiianeze]

Originally Posted by tylerwillingham

That's simply not true. We have at least one member running 19x11 SDC in the rear with 19x9.5 SDC in the front. Check out Gunda's thread.

look at his offset, he's talking about offsets in the mid 30s that's extremely close to the strut Glinda runs under a 20. Gunda has room but 15 is quite a bit of difference and to use the same specs has gunda would defeat the purpose of OP setup by not rubbing

[CarEnthused]

Originally Posted by hawaiianeze

And look at his offset, he's talking about offsets in the mid 30s that's extremely close to the strut Glinda runs under a 20 from what a remember

I'm pretty sure he runs an ET22 in the front but mentions that you could run a more aggressive offset. But he's also not rubbing and seemed to scoff at the caliper being an issue.

I don't think the OP would plan to run an ET3X with a 19x11 or 19x9.5 or so but I'm speculating there.

[CarEnthused]

Originally Posted by hawaiianeze

And look at his offset, he's talking about offsets in the mid 30s that's extremely close to the strut Glinda runs under a 20. Gunda has room but 15 is quite a bit of difference and to use the same specs has gunda would defeat the purpose of OP setup by not rubbing

lol we're editing our posts but quoting eachother before the edits

Gunda's fronts don't rub but his rears required work. Strictly speaking to the front you can run SDC. We also already know SDC can be ran in the rear without fender work by running 19x10 and perhaps 19x10.5

Personally I think that if the OP is interested in getting a deep concave setup it seems like he would want something similar to what I'll be pulling the trigger on this winter which is 19x9.5 in the front (I'll match Gunda's offset there) and 19x10 in the rear. I know it's not much of a staggered setup but I'm looking for the easiest way to run SDC front and rear.

[hawaiianeze]

From what I looked back on, gunda runs

Front 19x9.5 et 18 SDC
Rear 19x11 et 20 SDC

If OP is looking for a non rubbing setup there's no way he'd ever want this. Rubbing is based mostly on how low your car is and spring rates, even with shaved fenders the fronts will run quite a bit without camber plates. According to recent posts OP was considering offsets in the 30s (talking about fronts). Even though its proven SDC works on all four corners on non M with that much change between offsets of gunda and OP brake caliper clearance will more than likely be a problem. Point is back to OPs recommendation the most ideal setup would probably be a deep concave setup up with 19x9 and 19x10 or deep in front and SDC in rear

[steamroller]

@odariel what did you end up going with? I am looking at a similar setup for my E92:

FRONT 19"x 9.5 ET32 DEEP CONCAVE | OFFSET: 32 235/35/19
BACK: 19"x10 ET30 SUPER DEEP CONCAVE 265/30/19

[odariel]

Originally Posted by steamroller

@odariel what did you end up going with? I am looking at a similar setup for my E92:

FRONT 19"x 9.5 ET32 DEEP CONCAVE | OFFSET: 32 235/35/19
BACK: 19"x10 ET30 SUPER DEEP CONCAVE 265/30/19

Hello!

In the end, due to the fact that super deep concave front and rear is what looks great and that means 9.5 on the front i discarded the idea.
And mixing the super deep concave with a deep concave is a no go for me, the SDC is so deep that it makes DC look flat in the front... and i don't want that look. Looks unbalanced to me.

Also, if you want to keep a staggered set up as bmw325i mentioned, you probably need/want to go 11 at the back, fender your rears, etc. And since i am not a fan of streched tyres it implies having serious rubber on the car... too much for my taste...

Sorry i can't be of more help...

[Game]

Bump this up. Any updates?

[bmw325i]

Originally Posted by Game

Bump this up. Any updates?

I've been talking to Pat@SonicTuning about this, and I was told 9.5 et23 super deep concave will clear the brakes even on a 325i. He even confirmed it with Forgestar.

I'm a little unsure about it still.

[Game]

Originally Posted by bmw325i

I've been talking to Pat@SonicTuning about this, and I was told 9.5 et23 super deep concave will clear the brakes even on a 325i. He even confirmed it with Forgestar.

I'm a little unsure about it still.

I know for a fact that guys are fitting 19x11 +25 on an E92 so I don't see why your specs wouldn't work.

[bmw325i]

Originally Posted by Game

I know for a fact that guys are fitting 19x11 +25 on an E92 so I don't see why your specs wouldn't work.

I meant in the front. I know super deep concave in the rear is no problem. Gunda did 9.5 et18 on a e92, but I don't want it to poke so much, and his front brakes are larger.