[Ruff Rider]

Originally Posted by Socom

no turns? Someone please tell me the point of this type of racing? It's not like you get to keep his car if he looses.

If I play some one in ping pong I don't keep their paddle if I win. If I win at a game of basketball I don't keep the ball. I shake the persons hand and go on. It's called competition. I don't agree with racing on the public roads. Some people just like to see what their car will do against another car. After they are done they can drive away and not have to hand over a pink slip.

Now Socom go pay full retail for every thing you buy

[seven_227]

lol you got that right.

And about the road I wouldn’t worry much since it's a deserted road at 3 am.

[Boostin335]

what year was the vette?

[seven_227]

2007 LS2 auto

[Mr. 5]

I've ran against a couple C6s at Irwindale (1/8th mile) and it's been close every time.
Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose but it's never by much.

[Boostin335]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I've ran against a couple C6s at Irwindale (1/8th mile) and it's been close every time.
Sometimes I win and sometimes I lose but it's never by much.

what would your 8.22 1/8 translate over for a 1/4 mile time, all things equal?

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by Maroon

Auto LS2? impressive.

actually, not so much. The LS2 auto Vette's are about a half second slower then the LS2 6 spd. Vette in both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. The auto in the 2008 is much improved and is only about .1-.2 behind. People who are not too familiar with the difference are surprised to see the C6 auto run that slow and think it's a driver problem. It's really a tranny problem since the autos in the 05-07's are pieces of shit. In the case of this race, it's the difference between a dead even run with the Vette and the Vette walking away by 4-5 CL's.

Nice kill and it sounds like the Vette owner got exactly what he asked for.

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by Boostin335

what would your 8.22 1/8 translate over for a 1/4 mile time, all things equal?

8.2 in the 1/8th is equivalent to aproximately 12.6 or 12.7 in the 1/4 with our cars.

[DrewKo]

Man, I had no idea...I thought we didn't stand a chance to a C6...very interesting vids. Tx for posting.

[94JZA80]

Originally Posted by turbotko

Nice kill too, seems some of those C6 vets just don't run like they should. I kept seeing a LS2 C6 auto run at the track and was running 13.4's.........I kept teasing him about if he wanted a 12 second time slip I'd be glad to drive it for him. With 360 rwhp and weighing only 3250 lbs, it really should be a 12 second car.

are you referring to dyno proven numbers? b/c the last time i checked, a modest 15% drivetrain loss through a manual transmission will only allow a 400 crank HP motor to apply 340 of those ponies to the road. you're speaking of one with an automatic transmission, which loses a larger % of power through the drivertrain than its 6-speed manual counterpart (lets be modest and say 20% loss for an auto). so the auto C6 theoretically makes closer to 320 wheel HP. i still agree with you that even the automatic C6 should be in the 12's, but i don't think its quite as easy or as simple as you put it.

[Dr_Dirt]

Originally Posted by Socom

no turns? Someone please tell me the point of this type of racing? It's not like you get to keep his car if he looses.

Well, if you are comparing the accelleration of any car to another what better car to do it against than the corvette. LS2 vettes stock have 400hp probably at least 340rwhp and only 3180lbs. These things are everywhere and they have a 400lb weight advantage, if you can keep up with one your doing pretty well.
I'm not saying go out and race, but it is nice to know your getting your moneys worth when you put your foot down

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by seven_227

2007 LS2 auto

That partly explains it.

The LS2 autos trap at 111+ mph I think.

But I gotta be honest, from the stop it seems like Corvette owner didn't know how to launch very well.

And I also have to be honest, from the roll, it doesn't look like you were "head to head" even with the vette until 140....it looks like the vette started to creep away right away and looks to be more than 1 car length ahead by the end.


Is your 335i and auto or manual?

Now get v2 and you'll beat the vette.
But unlike the 335i's the manual vettes are a bit faster and the 2008 LS3's are even faster than that, by a decent amount.

Thanks for the vids, too bad the camera car wasn't faster so it could of kept up for better video.

[fast_lap28]

[94JZA80]

Originally Posted by DrewKo

Man, I had no idea...I thought we didn't stand a chance to a C6...very interesting vids. Tx for posting.

stock, you don't stand a chance. but its amazing what one [or a few] simple modification[s] will do. i can't help but stay tuned in to the 335i aftermarket scene because, like you all, i have a 3.0L twin turbo motor under the hood. and so to me it is very interesting to follow the progress/development of the N54 power plant.

aside from being able to use the simple "anything can happen on the street" disclaimer, this race really does make sense on paper as well (when you look at the numbers). seeing as how an exhaust (be it turbo-back or just cat-back) and a boost increase (via Vishnu, AA, etc.) is putting the 335i into a similar power/torque range as a BPU Supra, and only weighs approx. 100lbs more than a Supra, it makes sense to me that such a lightly modified 335i should be more than capable of handling a C6 auto. even the seemingly large 400lb. weight difference between the 335i and the C6 isn't enough of an advantage to outweigh the difference in wheel HP (from a dig you can obviously see that the weight difference does play a bigger part, but you know what i mean...)

[sflgator]

Nice video and very nice runs!!! One question though...the Evo is the camera car -- was he even racing (as he certainly looked like he was racing)? If so, I can't believe how slow he is compared with both the PROcede v1.47 335i and C6 'Vette.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Nice video and very nice runs!!! One question though...the Evo is the camera car -- was he even racing (as he certainly looked like he was racing)? If so, I can't believe how slow he is compared with both the PROcede v1.47 335i and C6 'Vette.

Well in his defense, he started out slowly as he wanted to be behind the others.
Problem is, he was stock and also had a passenger.
And if it was an EVO 8 they only trapped at like 101-102 mph.
If it was a EVO 9 they trapped stock around 103ish.

With the added passenger, you could knock 1.5 mph off that.

So he'd of been 4-5 CL's behind a STOCK 335i, much less the modded one.
That's why he was like 15 CL's back.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Driver72

Well in his defense, he started out slowly as he wanted to be behind the others.
Problem is, he was stock and also had a passenger.
And if it was an EVO 8 they only trapped at like 101-102 mph.
If it was a EVO 9 they trapped stock around 103ish.

With the added passenger, you could knock 1.5 mph off that.

So he'd of been 4-5 CL's behind a STOCK 335i, much less the modded one.
That's why he was like 15 CL's back.

Yeah, the video says, "Evo IX w/ bolt-ons, no tune, and slipping clutch."

[alms21]

While the C6 is a nice performer (I had an '05 and an '07Z06) the car is far far far far from a 335i in terms of pure quality.

Not bashing the Vette.... just speaking my opinion from owning both. I am surprised at the outcome. I need to get on the piggyback train after the first of the year for sure!!

[Sal@AUTOcouture]

that C6 was catchin up REAL fast in the second race hah...right past the Evo and I'm sure eventually past the 335i too. C6's are no joke, ESPECIALLY the 08's

Sal

[NM_BMW]

The Evo didn't look to be stock. In the video it said it had boltons? What bolt ons did the Evo have?

[RedGT3]

335 vs C5 vette.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...t=SV102180.flv

[94JZA80]

Originally Posted by fll335

335 vs C5 vette.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...t=SV102180.flv

stock Vs stock, or is one or both cars modded? times?