New N54 5-10 v5 PWM maps/firmware

enrita · 05-12-2011, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by import36

can these new beta maps be used for those with MT without meth? if so, i'd like to try out the new non-DIC and DIC maps.

yeah of course you can use them on pump.

AhmEd_B_Stylin · 05-12-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Not quite, since tuners tend indeed to blame hardware even when the car runs fine stock. Because running more boost puts more stress on the hardware etc...

Thank you

AhmEd_B_Stylin · 05-12-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky66

For someone with only 7 posts you come across as rather stupid, since anyone with half a brain would remove the Procede from the equation and check to see if the misfires are still present...........and then decide if injectors, plugs or coils need replacing.

It don't matter how many posts I have trust me I'm not a newbie in the n54 game, and you are a 100% right about removing procede and checking the hardware but tuner claims that it's more prone to misfire when @ high boost, alright fanboy

import36 · 05-12-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

yeah of course you can use them on pump.

thanks enrita...wasn't sure if they were meth-specific maps or what.

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Originally Posted by NiVeDh

Shiv your mail quota is full.

^

AltecBX · 05-12-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Nice!

Could you explain the these:
-extended crank at start-up
-cruise control deactivation

Also, will the Automatic maps be non-DIC as well? Any performance enhancement in these maps?

Can someone explain when you these issues occur?

enrita · 05-12-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Can someone explain when you these issues occur?

Extended crank: from my experience basically the car takes half a sec longer to start than normal.
Cruise control: i did not experience this issue

Probably AT maps will have both DIC and Non-DIC as the MT ones.

Zasquatch · 05-12-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Extended crank: from my experience basically the car takes half a sec longer to start than normal.
Cruise control: i did not experience this issue

Probably AT maps will have both DIC and Non-DIC as the MT ones.

My extended crank phenomenon was much worse than that. It progressively got worse and worse and as of yesterday took a good 3 sec to start. I removed the Procede and the car starts the second you push the button. Glad to see this is all sorted out in the latest FW though.

AltecBX · 05-12-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

Extended crank: from my experience basically the car takes half a sec longer to start than normal.
Cruise control: i did not experience this issue

Probably AT maps will have both DIC and Non-DIC as the MT ones.

Thanks. You know I have my car at the dealer as we speak because of this. They just called me telling me that anything less than 4 sec to start is normal. I brang it in thinking it was the HPFP again. I have to go pick it up today. I'm glad this was tune related and it's fixed, because I didn't want to live with a 2-3 sec crank.

OpenFlash · 05-12-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NiVeDh

Shiv your mail quota is full.

Fixed! Got a lot of requests in the last couple of days

thwgw24 · 05-12-2011, 01:28 PM

Still haven't received the file.

pentaxis · 05-12-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zasquatch

My extended crank phenomenon was much worse than that. It progressively got worse and worse and as of yesterday took a good 3 sec to start. I removed the Procede and the car starts the second you push the button. Glad to see this is all sorted out in the latest FW though.

Wasn't extended crank a "feature"?

pentaxis · 05-12-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The dpeed de-limiter should have always worked. But it's just turn off by default in the user adjustable menu. Once you turn it on, it should work. If you did that and it still didn't work, perhaps the bug that caused cruise control to drop out intermittently on some cars also caused the same issue in those particular cars. It's hard for me to know because our test cars have had neither problem. Which is why i'm eager to send these updates into the field. Just collecting some more emails and should send off the update later tonight!

Lol... we will offer an inexpensive little add-on device to do the speed delimiter function for those who run PWM meth. Kind of an overkill/waste using the fully mappable digital output in the Procede to do a simple digital frequency clamp.

Perhaps just including it with the PWM kit would make sense. That way adding the PWM meth kit doesn't cause you to lose any functionality whatsover without purchasing more hardware?

jpsimon · 05-12-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pentaxis

Wasn't extended crank a "feature"?

there was some diagnostic thing he was doing, my extended crank was barely noticeable. MAYBE 1/2 a second at most

jdbretz · 05-12-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pentaxis

Wasn't extended crank a "feature"?

Yes but it was only intended to extend the crank by ~0.5 seconds. I guess some people it was cranking much longer. I didn't have any cranking issues, but I did have the cruise control deactivating problem.

pentaxis · 05-12-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

there was some diagnostic thing he was doing, my extended crank was barely noticeable. MAYBE 1/2 a second at most

Mine wasn't terrible either. Just a little rough compared to normal. Glad to see they reverted back to the standard start nonetheless!

Zasquatch · 05-12-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

there was some diagnostic thing he was doing, my extended crank was barely noticeable. MAYBE 1/2 a second at most

I really woudn't have cared if that was the case... and that is how it started. 1/2 sec at most. Once it got to 2 seconds, then 3 seconds, then 3.5 and barely starting it was time to take it out and see if it was a "hardware" issue. It wasn't.

In any case, these maps address the issue so no worries for you guys

crazydrummer · 05-12-2011, 01:51 PM

Anyone got them yet haha? Im desperate

AltecBX · 05-12-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zasquatch

I really woudn't have cared if that was the case... and that is how it started. 1/2 sec at most. Once it got to 2 seconds, then 3 seconds, then 3.5 and barely starting it was time to take it out and see if it was a "hardware" issue. It wasn't.

In any case, these maps address the issue so no worries for you guys

Yea, I just got back from Cali and thought it was due to the long rest, but my finance has been using it. So I started it the next day and it was the same. About 2 1/2 sec the 1st day, and almost 2 sec the next day, so I had to bring it to dealer because I thought it was the HPFP again. I didn't think to revert it to map 0, to see if it was tune related. Have people here tried starting in map 0, or have you Zasquatch tried it in map 0 to notice the difference?

Shiv, why was these feature introduce for?

Zasquatch · 05-12-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Yea, I just got back from Cali and thought it was due to the long rest, but my finance has been using it. So I started it the next day and it was the same. About 2 1/2 sec the 1st day, and almost 2 sec the next day, so I had to bring it to dealer because I thought it was the HPFP again. I didn't think to revert it to map 0, to see if it was tune related. Have people here tried starting in map 0, or have you Zasquatch tried it in map 0 to notice the difference?

Shiv, why was these feature introduce for?

I actually never really tried it in map 0, only with the entire PROcede removed.

EastBayE90 · 05-12-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crazydrummer

Anyone got them yet haha? Im desperate

I got em he he he

EDIT: I was getting the long crank even in map 0. I thought it was the HPFP too. I took it in and got the HPFP replaced and 3 injectors. Also did the spark plugs later that night. Kinda glad that I did have this long crank issue because it motivated me to get the car back to stock and freshen some things up before getting the PWM meth installed.

Bme30 · 05-12-2011, 03:11 PM

so how are they?????

OpenFlash · 05-12-2011, 03:25 PM

Hi guys, the extended crank wasn't a feature. But rather a byproduct of a diagnostic we were running with the beta maps. Because of this diagnostic, it took approx .5s longer for the Procede to sync with the crank signal. A lot of little things had to be rewritten once we increased crank signal resolution a few months ago. It caused all sorts of nifty overrun issues with low speed digital signals which took some time to work out. All innocuous but a bit annoying (solenoid farting, cruise control disabling). But that's what beta maps are all about.

Looks like I'm going to Buttonwillow Raceway tomorrow with a local tester/customer to do one final test of the new updates. The opportunity presented itself last night. So i makes sense to put it through that torture test before emailing them out. So if you can't wait, just pretend you never read this thread.

Once I email out the update, I'll post here

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OpenFlash 1736 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	Hi guys, the extended crank wasn't a feature. But rather a byproduct of a diagnostic we were running with the beta maps. Because of this diagnostic, it took approx .5s longer for the Procede to sync with the crank signal. A lot of little things had to be rewritten once we increased crank signal resolution a few months ago. It caused all sorts of nifty overrun issues with low speed digital signals which took some time to work out. All innocuous but a bit annoying (solenoid farting, cruise control disabling). But that's what beta maps are all about. Looks like I'm going to Buttonwillow Raceway tomorrow with a local tester/customer to do one final test of the new updates. The opportunity presented itself last night. So i makes sense to put it through that torture test before emailing them out. So if you can't wait, just pretend you never read this thread. Once I email out the update, I'll post here
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