Help me decide!

urfankhaliq · 02-09-2012, 10:19 AM

I'm in a bit of a dilemma!

I need to decide between 18 or 19 inch wheels on my E90

The choices are:

18 inch MV3
18 inch Style 189
19 inch MV4 (Can you get 18 inch MV4?)
19 inch Style 235

I don't REALLY like the MV3 that much, I think the style 189 looks better then the MV3 but I REALLY like the look of the MV4 but the fact its 19 inch puts me off when I think of the cost of tyres but more importantly I wonder if it will ruin the ride of the car or the look of the car with mahoosive wheels and stock disc/calipers etc. Don't want it looking stupid!

Mart1000 · 02-09-2012, 11:37 AM

Looks wise it's a no brainer for me. 19" look far better imho. Can't comment about ride quality as I've got 18's on which are fine.

urfankhaliq · 02-09-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mart1000

Looks wise it's a no brainer for me. 19" look far better imho. Can't comment about ride quality as I've got 18's on which are fine.

Which 18's do you have? You would rather have 19's then?

Mart1000 · 02-09-2012, 11:50 AM

I've got 18" MV3's on at the mo, standard m sport suspension. Rides firm but nice. Non run flats too. Yeah I'd prefer 19's for sure.

urfankhaliq · 02-09-2012, 11:53 AM

The MV3's seem very common (as in around alot) lol

The trouble is I just dont think they look very good and I cant find anything else in 18" that attracts me as much as the MV4 but then that is a 19 and im a little unsure about going 19"

Mart1000 · 02-09-2012, 12:00 PM

Think the MV3 is standard figment on the e90 m sport saloon anyway hence why they are common. I'm not too sure about the MV4 either. Personally I love the CSL 19" style wheels. I doubt ride wise there's much between 18 & 19" (non rft). The 19"s fill the arches much nicer and if you do some hunting around for tyre prices I doubt there's a huge amount in that either

urfankhaliq · 02-09-2012, 12:25 PM

Well I just got another option....

18 inch CSL

Seen these....

http://www.supersportwheels.co.uk/sh...id_product=241

Question I have is does anyone have experience of these guys?

I just spoke to him on the phone, seems like a nice guy, says the CSL's are original and NEW, not refurbed! When I asked how he can sell so cheap as NEW and not refurb he says they buy direct from Germany....

I'm a little skeptical.....

Thoughts?

Mart1000 · 02-09-2012, 12:43 PM

Now they look very, very nice. I'm sure they are reps at that price

BUT I bet you have them on the car for a few weeks before regretting going for the 19's lol.
I'm sure someone who is in the know will be along soon to give more knowledgable input on these wheels mate.

urfankhaliq · 02-09-2012, 01:04 PM

well when i spoke to the guy he assured me they are genuine and not reps and said they order from Germany hence why its cheap.....

I hope they ARE genuine cos i would go for them

Hotcoupe · 02-09-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by urfankhaliq

Seen these....

http://www.supersportwheels.co.uk/sh...id_product=241

Question I have is does anyone have experience of these guys?

I just spoke to him on the phone, seems like a nice guy, says the CSL's are original and NEW, not refurbed! When I asked how he can sell so cheap as NEW and not refurb he says they buy direct from Germany....

I'm a little skeptical.....

Thoughts?

Thoughts:

From the ad -

■Set of4X18 Inch BMW CSL Alloy Wheels
■Limited Edition finished in Matt Black
■Brand New
■REAR 18//9J FRONT 18/8J
■Please Note: REAR WHEEL HAS A DEEPER DISH LOOKS MEAN
■Suitable for most 3 SERIES BMW including E46 M3 & E92 M3

No where in the ad does it mention what the offset of the wheels is.
It states: Suitable for most 3 SERIES BMW including E46 M3 & E92 M3
which is clearly incorrect as both have completly different offsets to E90/91/92 cars.

Have a look at what Mark @ Bmautosport has to offer:
http://www.bmautosport.co.uk/showroo...93-c-51_23_122

a quick glance and I've noticed several NEW sets of CSL alloys at prices far cheaper than the site you've posted, and at the offsets stated are suitable for your car.

urfankhaliq · 02-09-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

Thoughts:

From the ad -

■Set of4X18 Inch BMW CSL Alloy Wheels
■Limited Edition finished in Matt Black
■Brand New
■REAR 18//9J FRONT 18/8J
■Please Note: REAR WHEEL HAS A DEEPER DISH LOOKS MEAN
■Suitable for most 3 SERIES BMW including E46 M3 & E92 M3

No where in the ad does it mention what the offset of the wheels is.
It states: Suitable for most 3 SERIES BMW including E46 M3 & E92 M3
which is clearly incorrect as both have completly different offsets to E90/91/92 cars.

Have a look at what Mark @ Bmautosport has to offer:
http://www.bmautosport.co.uk/showroo...93-c-51_23_122

a quick glance and I've noticed several NEW sets of CSL alloys at prices far cheaper than the site you've posted, and at the offsets stated are suitable for your car.

So does that mean that the wheels from supersportwheels are not genuine bmw wheels?

I know it sounds silly to even ask because BMW to charge a fortune compared to the advertised price for the CSL's BUT even here he has sold a genuine set of CSL's, brand new for £850 (19 inch)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1108015426...#ht_500wt_1413

where as the wheels from Mark are clearly not OEM (the ones in the new section anyway)..

Hotcoupe · 02-09-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by urfankhaliq

So does that mean that the wheels from supersportwheels are not genuine bmw wheels?

I know it sounds silly to even ask because BMW to charge a fortune compared to the advertised price for the CSL's BUT even here he has sold a genuine set of CSL's, brand new for £850 (19 inch)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1108015426...#ht_500wt_1413

where as the wheels from Mark are clearly not OEM (the ones in the new section anyway)..

OEM CSL wheels were only ever available in 19".

The Ebay ad above may well be for original CSL wheels,however the other link you posted direct to Supersportwheels own website advertises 18" CSL wheels,so no, I would suggest that those 18" wheels are not original, which is why I pointed you in the direction of Bmautosport.

If it's OEM CSL wheels you require, the sizes are 8.5J X 19 ET44 front & 9.5J x 19 ET27 rear.
For your E90 you'd require a 10 or 12mm spacer on the front,the rears would be fine.

SteveC · 02-10-2012, 01:09 AM

Quite a few reasons I'd personally stay with 18" rims

1. BMW don't offer 19" wheels as standard options on the e90, whereas they do for the coupe. This then puts 19" rims into the non-standard category
2. I like the security of run flat tyres, but the ride would probably be slightly too firm with the lower sidewall 19s
3. I don't like paying lots of money for cosmetics without function. When 18" function better than 19 in terms of ride that becomes especially true.
4. I don't like paying extra insurance because the insurance companies classify 19" wheels as non standard (see 1 above)
5. I don't like paying a lot more for tyres for cosmetic reasons only
6. I'm not a great fan of spending money to replace perfectly good hardware that I've already paid for once (different from paying to delete one option in order to upgrade to a more expensive option)
7. I stop noticing something like wheels about 6 weeks after they're fitted, so value for money is really poor.
8. For the same money as a set of wheels I can have a lot, lot more fun ( a week touring in the Alps or Scotland, with some of Europe's finest roads, for example). A week worth of fun vs. some some mildly upgraded cosmetics that I hardly notice....no brainer in my case.

urfankhaliq · 02-10-2012, 08:09 AM

Thanks for the comments guys. I think I would like to stick with OEM 18" wheels also but all I can find is MV3's! (and these http://www.bmautosport.co.uk/showroo...=51_23_122_119)

225_AB · 02-10-2012, 08:30 AM

Agree with many of the comments above as to why you should stick with 18" BUT
19" wheels look much better than 18"
the ride on non run flats is fine
The ride on RFT 's is awful in my opinion

Your choice

bmwak · 02-10-2012, 09:11 AM

I personally would go for 19"s. From experiencing both 18" and 19" I felt that it was only a marginally harder ride than 18"s.

Out of those the MV4's does it for me - maybe I'm biased though as my car has those as standard

. I do remember seeing pictures of a E90 with MV4's on here somewhere. Might be worth doing a search to get an idea on what they'd look like on an E90!

urfankhaliq · 02-10-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by doc_ab

Agree with many of the comments above as to why you should stick with 18" BUT
19" wheels look much better than 18"
the ride on non run flats is fine
The ride on RFT 's is awful in my opinion

Your choice

Given a choice I would deffo stick to non run flats wether 18 or 19

mowflow · 02-10-2012, 06:34 PM

You have to think about the fact your car is an SE so I'm assuming it's standard SE suspension. If so 19s will look stupid unless you lower it. I also wouldn't get anything too gappy as it's never a good idea to draw attention to the milk bottle top brakes on a 320.

I'd look for some style 216 wheels. Classy and very rarely see them.

CarAbuser · 02-10-2012, 07:03 PM

The more detailed wheel designs look out of place on the SE, best sticking with the bolder more chunky designs that BMW offer from the factory.

IMO CSLs just look like barry-boy wheels!

urfankhaliq · 02-10-2012, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarAbuser

The more detailed wheel designs look out of place on the SE, best sticking with the bolder more chunky designs that BMW offer from the factory.

IMO CSLs just look like barry-boy wheels!

When you say chunkier do you mean the style 189 type design?

CarAbuser · 02-10-2012, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urfankhaliq

When you say chunkier do you mean the style 189 type design?

Yup, they look great on the SE coupé but I haven't seen them on an E90 yet.

Edit:
Picture here http://www.pbrun.net/cars/BMW/Pics/Type189_1.jpg

I'd say they look pretty good.

Boz335i · 02-11-2012, 04:57 AM

A bit out of left field here, but I find my 19"s a slightly softer ride than my 18"s, this is on Eibach prokit springs.

I run 19" 313s with Bridgestones RFT's in the summer and 18" MV3s Bridgestone RFT's in the winter.

The reason I think, is because the 18"s need pumping up to a higher PSI than the 19"s. The 18"s feel like they have concrete tyres, so I'm looking forward to the summer for my spines sake.

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urfankhaliq Captain 65 Rep 824 Posts Drives: BMW 530e G30 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leeds iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 325D Msport [0.00] 2003 BMW X5 [0.00] 2005 BMW 320D SE [0.00]	Help me decide! I'm in a bit of a dilemma! I need to decide between 18 or 19 inch wheels on my E90 The choices are: 18 inch MV3 18 inch Style 189 19 inch MV4 (Can you get 18 inch MV4?) 19 inch Style 235 I don't REALLY like the MV3 that much, I think the style 189 looks better then the MV3 but I REALLY like the look of the MV4 but the fact its 19 inch puts me off when I think of the cost of tyres but more importantly I wonder if it will ruin the ride of the car or the look of the car with mahoosive wheels and stock disc/calipers etc. Don't want it looking stupid! __________________ BMW 530e G30 Last edited by urfankhaliq; 02-09-2012 at 10:41 AM..
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Mart1000 Capt Slow 37 Rep 1,076 Posts Drives: Leon FR Supercopa Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Suffolk iTrader: (1)	Looks wise it's a no brainer for me. 19" look far better imho. Can't comment about ride quality as I've got 18's on which are fine.
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Mart1000 Capt Slow 37 Rep 1,076 Posts Drives: Leon FR Supercopa Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Suffolk iTrader: (1)	I've got 18" MV3's on at the mo, standard m sport suspension. Rides firm but nice. Non run flats too. Yeah I'd prefer 19's for sure.
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urfankhaliq Captain 65 Rep 824 Posts Drives: BMW 530e G30 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leeds iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 325D Msport [0.00] 2003 BMW X5 [0.00] 2005 BMW 320D SE [0.00]	The MV3's seem very common (as in around alot) lol The trouble is I just dont think they look very good and I cant find anything else in 18" that attracts me as much as the MV4 but then that is a 19 and im a little unsure about going 19" __________________ BMW 530e G30
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Mart1000 Capt Slow 37 Rep 1,076 Posts Drives: Leon FR Supercopa Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Suffolk iTrader: (1)	Think the MV3 is standard figment on the e90 m sport saloon anyway hence why they are common. I'm not too sure about the MV4 either. Personally I love the CSL 19" style wheels. I doubt ride wise there's much between 18 & 19" (non rft). The 19"s fill the arches much nicer and if you do some hunting around for tyre prices I doubt there's a huge amount in that either
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urfankhaliq Captain 65 Rep 824 Posts Drives: BMW 530e G30 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leeds iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 325D Msport [0.00] 2003 BMW X5 [0.00] 2005 BMW 320D SE [0.00]	Well I just got another option.... 18 inch CSL Seen these.... http://www.supersportwheels.co.uk/sh...id_product=241 Question I have is does anyone have experience of these guys? I just spoke to him on the phone, seems like a nice guy, says the CSL's are original and NEW, not refurbed! When I asked how he can sell so cheap as NEW and not refurb he says they buy direct from Germany.... I'm a little skeptical..... Thoughts? __________________ BMW 530e G30
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Mart1000 Capt Slow 37 Rep 1,076 Posts Drives: Leon FR Supercopa Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Suffolk iTrader: (1)	Now they look very, very nice. I'm sure they are reps at that price BUT I bet you have them on the car for a few weeks before regretting going for the 19's lol. I'm sure someone who is in the know will be along soon to give more knowledgable input on these wheels mate.
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urfankhaliq Captain 65 Rep 824 Posts Drives: BMW 530e G30 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leeds iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 325D Msport [0.00] 2003 BMW X5 [0.00] 2005 BMW 320D SE [0.00]	well when i spoke to the guy he assured me they are genuine and not reps and said they order from Germany hence why its cheap..... I hope they ARE genuine cos i would go for them __________________ BMW 530e G30
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SteveC Major 220 Rep 1,231 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North East iTrader: (1)	Standard vs. Non-Standard Wheels Quite a few reasons I'd personally stay with 18" rims 1. BMW don't offer 19" wheels as standard options on the e90, whereas they do for the coupe. This then puts 19" rims into the non-standard category 2. I like the security of run flat tyres, but the ride would probably be slightly too firm with the lower sidewall 19s 3. I don't like paying lots of money for cosmetics without function. When 18" function better than 19 in terms of ride that becomes especially true. 4. I don't like paying extra insurance because the insurance companies classify 19" wheels as non standard (see 1 above) 5. I don't like paying a lot more for tyres for cosmetic reasons only 6. I'm not a great fan of spending money to replace perfectly good hardware that I've already paid for once (different from paying to delete one option in order to upgrade to a more expensive option) 7. I stop noticing something like wheels about 6 weeks after they're fitted, so value for money is really poor. 8. For the same money as a set of wheels I can have a lot, lot more fun ( a week touring in the Alps or Scotland, with some of Europe's finest roads, for example). A week worth of fun vs. some some mildly upgraded cosmetics that I hardly notice....no brainer in my case.
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urfankhaliq Captain 65 Rep 824 Posts Drives: BMW 530e G30 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Leeds iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 BMW 325D Msport [0.00] 2003 BMW X5 [0.00] 2005 BMW 320D SE [0.00]	Thanks for the comments guys. I think I would like to stick with OEM 18" wheels also but all I can find is MV3's! (and these http://www.bmautosport.co.uk/showroo...=51_23_122_119) __________________ BMW 530e G30
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225_AB Major 65 Rep 1,377 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: May 2010 Location: buckinghamshire iTrader: (1) Garage List 2014 M235i [0.00] 2009 BMW 330D [0.00]	Agree with many of the comments above as to why you should stick with 18" BUT 19" wheels look much better than 18" the ride on non run flats is fine The ride on RFT 's is awful in my opinion Your choice
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bmwak Major 106 Rep 1,235 Posts Drives: 440i M-Sport Gran Coupe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: London iTrader: (4)	I personally would go for 19"s. From experiencing both 18" and 19" I felt that it was only a marginally harder ride than 18"s. Out of those the MV4's does it for me - maybe I'm biased though as my car has those as standard . I do remember seeing pictures of a E90 with MV4's on here somewhere. Might be worth doing a search to get an idea on what they'd look like on an E90!
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mowflow Colonel 62 Rep 2,472 Posts Drives: Golf 7R Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (2)	You have to think about the fact your car is an SE so I'm assuming it's standard SE suspension. If so 19s will look stupid unless you lower it. I also wouldn't get anything too gappy as it's never a good idea to draw attention to the milk bottle top brakes on a 320. I'd look for some style 216 wheels. Classy and very rarely see them.
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CarAbuser Lieutenant Colonel 469 Rep 1,536 Posts Drives: Z4 35i DCT / E92 335i DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	The more detailed wheel designs look out of place on the SE, best sticking with the bolder more chunky designs that BMW offer from the factory. IMO CSLs just look like barry-boy wheels!
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Boz335i Captain 28 Rep 636 Posts Drives: E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Buckingham iTrader: (5)	A bit out of left field here, but I find my 19"s a slightly softer ride than my 18"s, this is on Eibach prokit springs. I run 19" 313s with Bridgestones RFT's in the summer and 18" MV3s Bridgestone RFT's in the winter. The reason I think, is because the 18"s need pumping up to a higher PSI than the 19"s. The 18"s feel like they have concrete tyres, so I'm looking forward to the summer for my spines sake.
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