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01-11-2010, 03:51 PM | #507 | |
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In my particular M3 (6sp, no PDC) there's no CAN reverse signal so I used the reverse light 12V thru a relay to trigger the camera view. Once triggered the interface simply takes over the display from the CIC. The CIC display is still active and can be set either as an adjustable picture-in-picture (shown in the photo above) or in the OEM split screen view. For PDC cars the interface will get a CAN message from the car. The cameras/videos display can be turned on using the iDrive controller as well, no coding required either. You can connect any RCA video device to this interface, including night vision cameras and it will work the same. |
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01-12-2010, 10:12 AM | #509 |
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CIC Retrofit Update E90/E92/E93
The new CID is now fitted, found original BMW plug so everything very factory. New Controller is now installed (waiting for upper console to finish). CIC is installed, USB lead installed into the Glove BOX. Powered up to see how we stand, unit was as used kit so coding from last car looks like: TV (not fitted in current car but adding as we speak) so the coding can stay. L7 was activated (must have been in last car) so that needs to go, this would explain why we have no sound at present. Gone into CIP and errors have presented themselves (this was expected), as the cars ID (vin number / year) would not expect a CIC so its having a wobble. This would also be the issue if BMW wanted to generate enabling codes as the car is not expected to see the CIC (this problem needs to be addressed later). So it all looks great, so the plan is to UPDATE software levels on the new CIC + CON + CID, and then CODE the CIC (+ any relevant modules) to tie it into the spec of the car (E92 M3) . The software guys are working on this now and we await some workaround (watch this *******. In the meantime we can install new rear antenna booster to allow for the CICs internal DAB tuner & New TV module. Also need to replace roof antenna as this has the L-Band DAB aerial in it (other DAB aerial in rear screen). Also need to reconfigure the USB/Aux plug, and whilst the cars apart plan wire run for rear camera (will run via tv module in boot). Will update once software issues are resolved, so we can tidy up the coding/software levels. So far so good. http://www.cartronics.co.uk/index.cfm?cID=10890 Last edited by cartronics GB; 01-12-2010 at 10:23 AM.. Reason: pic |
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01-12-2010, 10:35 AM | #511 | |
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01-12-2010, 10:37 AM | #512 |
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Indeed, they are on the job. I believe (could be yourself) a USA customer is awaiting a solution? Once its been tricked out should have some workaround..
I shall keep you updated. Looks nice, sadly my donor car was L7 enabled so no sound but least this spurs me on to fix! Found the part number if needed for the CID screen connector (8way). Also a workable solution for the USB lead (TBC) if you need any info PM me. Mark@cartronics.co.uk |
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01-12-2010, 10:40 AM | #513 | |
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Its in the V/O as the CCC so thats not the issue, its the BMW database (now its server side) as the car is listed as not having CIC fitted at that year. So a little coding is needed (working on this now). |
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01-12-2010, 10:43 AM | #514 | |
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Autologic will set your CIC to the correct analog output with the coding, so that's a non-issue. The issue is still getting the FSC codes from BMW or something custom to enable Nav and Voice Control. You should post the P/N of the 1-row/8-pin connector and how to create the USB cable as nobody knows here how to get those yet, so that would help a lot those that want to do the retrofit as well. I was lucky enough to get them both with my used parts. Thanks! |
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01-12-2010, 12:33 PM | #515 | |
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Just wondering Mark (Cartronics), if you guys get this to work in a 3-seriers model, can it also be done in a 525D from june 2005? I have the Pro navigation with the DVD, the CCC and the split-screen monitor and I would love to have it upgraded to the new CIC-based system. Willem (Netherlands) |
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01-12-2010, 01:40 PM | #516 | |
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If it works on the 3 series, then retrofitting the CIC on the E60 would be no different. Again I will keep you updated, once its coded/updated we can move onto the codes. mark PS Willem just as a in between upgrade you can add the NEW controller on your old CCC - that alone is so much easier to use. |
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01-12-2010, 01:43 PM | #517 | |
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Is your CIC retrofit car >2007? |
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01-12-2010, 01:45 PM | #518 | |
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01-12-2010, 01:47 PM | #519 |
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01-12-2010, 01:47 PM | #520 | |
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My retrofit is in a MY2008 E90 M3, and the CIC is brand new from a BMW dealer (not installed in another car previously). No Nav or Voice Control are enabled. |
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01-12-2010, 01:48 PM | #521 | |
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I'm missing this part in my installation and would be happy to do it asap. Thanks, Patryk |
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01-12-2010, 01:53 PM | #522 | |
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Now I will get back to you about a vigin unit, the Master tech did mention about virgin units.. along the lines of from factory to dealer the nav is NOT enabled. The PDI (pre delivery inspection) guys have some form of enabling code (possibly different or in addition to him enabling the system)? should be able to confirm in a little more detail next week. |
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01-12-2010, 01:57 PM | #523 | |
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It will probably stop working after your restart your car a few times. That happened to me and other guys that had their used CICs installed. |
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01-12-2010, 02:02 PM | #524 | |
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When you get an CIC from a donor's car and install it in another car, both the Nav and the Voice Control will be disabled (see OEM atached document). I know of at least three CICs (new or used, no matter) that after retrofitting to another car the Nav and the Voice Control did not work, and still they do not work to this day. Yours is the first used unit that I know that the maps are working without the FSC codes. I think that your unit is in some type of temporary state, and once you unit is fully coded then the Navigation will be also disabled like it is supposed to be. |
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01-12-2010, 02:03 PM | #525 | |
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if true the unit must be checking CAS/LM and not see correct VIN (really the only defining feature between cars) and somehow locking it self ( writing to its own internal self).. Umh.... Has anyone every popped the lid of the CIC yet? Proccessor types -????? |
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01-12-2010, 02:06 PM | #526 | |
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01-12-2010, 02:07 PM | #527 | |
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OR ...... Thougths on this. if above is true, ie works until coded (which in effect ties it into the CAS/LM). When I code the car I will ONLY code relevent parts of the CIC, ie I will not recode the NAV.. I will not recode the Voice (if it works) but code additional features needed & or remove items not needed . By doing this the Nav still thinks its coded to the donor card. ?????????????????? Maybe Thanks for the heads up will check that out as well. |
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01-12-2010, 02:10 PM | #528 | |
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The VIN in your CIC doesn't match with the actual one. That's why the FSC codes are VIN specific. |
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