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Please talk me out of buying a 2010 Audi S4
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11-03-2009, 06:57 PM | #45 |
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Just having driven the B8 S4, I can say wow. My brother's friend is a salesman at an Audi dealership, so he let me rip the car a new asshole. That thing goes, no doubt. My cousin's stock 335i is a bit abrupt on torque delivery. The S4 was very smooth on power delivery. The ride was firm, but wasn't uncomfortable. It didn't have the Audi Drive select or S Tronic, but it had the new torque vectoring differential. First impressions: black really showed off the lines in the light and was very classy. Some guy was taking delivery of an Ibis White S4, and that looked fantastic. The car hasn't been started the whole day, so hearing the car start up with a roar was exciting. It was throaty, but it was never intrusive in the cabin. The clutch was smooth and kind of soft, but it let me feel the biting point. The interior smelled distinctly Audi. The seats were THE BOMB. Great leather surface, although I noticed it absorbed my finger oil easily. Pulling out of the dealership, I was instructed to turn out into an empty straight where all the cars there are test driven. I rolled onto the throttle and was quickly gaining speed. No supercharger whine at all, just that deep V6. I didn't want to redline it, the car only had 126 miles and the engine was slightly cold. At the end of the straight is a bridge, and after that a series of sharp turns with wet patches(likely due to the sprinkling system)I naturally, wanting to experience this new Quattro trick diff, jammed the throttle and yanked the steering wheel. It was an odd experience to say the least. The car remained perfectly calm, even through the wet patches, and sailed through like the road was dry. It didn't feel natural, but it was definitely impressive. The steering was light, but not too light. It was easy to maneuver it back to its space later on. Unfortunately, I was too caught up in driving, so I didn't test out the audio or MMI. I can say that the buttons have a crisp feeling when you touch them. BMWs have a soft feel when you press into the buttons. The Audi had a crisp click, and each button didn't require much force to activate them. I kinda liked that, nice feedback coming from the buttons. People say the car doesn't have steering feel, but that is absolutely wrong. Although not as direct as say, my cousin's 335i sedan, I could feel what the tires where doing to a certain extent. Overall, I would definitely try out the S4. One test drive could change your mind!
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11-05-2009, 02:34 AM | #49 | |
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But if you don't mind a more polished experience then be in no doubt, the S4 is superior in every way to the 335i. |
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11-05-2009, 07:27 AM | #50 | |
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1) Yes, the looks are subjective. 2) Weight distribution of the S4 is CLOSE to 50/50, not like the Bimmer, but close. 60/40 is the AWD distribution. However, the AWD adds a LOT to the fun, stability and handling. 3) Stock for stock, S4 performs better than the 335. I believe the 335 is easier to modify though. 4) Manual Transmission is IMO day and night. THough very precise with the Bimmer, it was fairly disappointing with a long throw and sometimes sticky and fairly heavy clutch pedal. 5) Price, S4 Premium Plus (Base model) I purchased yesterday was $47k out of the door, that is equivalent to the Bimmers Premium + Sport package. I believe the price is pretty much the same if not a tad cheaper with the Audi 6) Problems -- there is a clear data on the 2009 B8 model reliability, and...I believe it is actually better than the 335 that has been around for a few years. Every car has issues... |
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11-05-2009, 09:57 AM | #52 | |
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You can get the separate options: - Nav - B&O Stereo (Logic7 equivalent) - 19" wheels - ADS system - an other options. Prestige package automatically adds the Nav, B&O, and some other things that I did not care about... |
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11-05-2009, 10:04 AM | #53 |
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Not to beat a dead horse, but the premium plus package is the equivalent of the BMW 335Xi or i with sport, cold weather and premium packages. Price out a 335i with those options and you are higher than the base price of the S4 at $45,900. The Xi is higher still. The only way the BMW is cheaper is to go with base only, sport only or premium only.
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11-05-2009, 10:36 AM | #54 |
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The new S4 has a tune you can buy already..and more will be coming. I personally cant afford a new S4..or a new M3..or a new 335i for that matter...I have had both BMWs and Audis...and I like them both. Its all a matter of your taste..not what fanboys say. You only go around once...live a little..and get what really moves you.
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11-05-2009, 02:08 PM | #57 |
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I wanted it like this because the options are expensive and did not need/want them. This was the only "base" S4 in the region from NC to TX to FL. This one was at the lot in Palm Beach (25 miles from me)
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11-05-2009, 02:09 PM | #58 | |
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Also, since you pointed out me picking on someone, I should inform you that 54.7 + 44.3 does not equal 100... |
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11-06-2009, 01:03 AM | #61 |
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S4s are awesome, and priced right. If I was doing it again, I'd put some serious consideration into the Audi. Especially if you want AWD, because I think Quattro > Xdrive.
Then again, Msport > Quattro, plus you can do EuroDelivery on the 335i and go to Munich for an unforgettable experience! And/or, the Performance Center!
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A finger fart on the keyboard, it should have read 45.3%. My point was where BMW make a big deal of their 50/50 balance (as do their following) your rounding up a full 5% on either axle was a bit mis-leading to the unfamiliar. I'm not saying that it makes a mountain of difference, it's not like the 335i or xi can corner any harder or quicker than the S4, in fact it's probably the opposite. |
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