E92/E93's future?!

GuitarDTO · 01-19-2012, 09:07 PM

I think the 3 series all still look classy. I love the e46 look still even though I have an e92. I think the 92 looks very classy and future proof. As long as they drive well they really aren't going anywhere. My main concern is how the n54 holds up over time and if I can get 200,000 out of it with minimal repairs

drkeng · 01-19-2012, 10:03 PM

will probably get first 'vert, just like I did with e93--have first week production car.

BQTuning · 01-19-2012, 10:40 PM

IMO....the N54 was built as a benchmark, and as many have said they over built this motor which is a good thing for those who have long term intensions for a build

The new F32 motor just seems to be a more inferior motor to the N54. The F30-32 car itself looks sharp but I dont see it looking that much better than reputable 335is - legacy carrier of the N54

I remember when I got my 2007 E92 335i, and then the 335is came out I was

I desired so strong to get the 335is, and not I finally got one.

Samething happened with the release of the F9x cars, but I had more disappointment and repulse

electro-house · 01-20-2012, 12:15 AM

e46 still looks great, and still will when the f30 comes out. There comes a point where it becomes hard to keep developing a newer car to look "better", and perform significantly better, hence why e46 and e9x will continue to look great when the newer models are released, and are still awesome cars to drive.

You couldn't say the same 10 years ago, about models two generations older still looking nice and performing as well. e36 looked outdated when e46 came out, but so much progression has occurred since then.

Cars have naturally plateaued a little bit, IMO, along with many other things in life that were progressively getting better and better with technology say 10-15 years ago. It's just difficult to keep significantly improving cars that are already so good. I'd almost say the newer models are more of a change than a MAJOR upgrade. Still might be an upgrade, but not a MUST have by any means if your car is running fine.

So no, I am in no way ditching my car when the f30 comes out. I STILL have regrets of trading in my e46 for my e92, if I could go back, I wouldn't have done it.

Ask any average person what they think of an e46 330ci zhp and you'll be surprised how much people love those cars, still one of the baddest ass looking cars out there, and you can pick them up for $15k easy.

Cozy · 01-20-2012, 02:51 AM

The E46 M-Sport still looks great, they are still really popular and holding their value really well over here in the UK. Theres a black LCI E46 330i M-Sport convertible right around the corner from me and whenever I see it I can't help but want it...very modern looking, fresh lines, they did a great job here so much so that the E92/93 almost looks like a different model altogether. I'd not hesitate to own an E46 convertible, M-Sport or M3 if I needed some extra cash but wanted a BMW still, that's for sure.

As has been said, E9x - F3x transition isn't so great so to most the difference won't be noticed and I doubt that people in love with the F3x would have a problem buying a used E9x, it'll still look fresh. The way I see it anyhow is that I have what, 2yrs until the F33 (presume that will be the cabrio), so I keep my E93 4yrs from now and by that time the F33 would have had two years to develop most of it's faults and have them fixed (and depreciate some

). Much like the '07 335i's over here had their issues ironed out by '08.

J3FF3RSON · 01-20-2012, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary88

E46 is far from forgotten.

I love my E46!! Still looks classy.

But I will probably not go for the Next Coupe/Conv, since I really don't like the way the new 3 looks.

1QuikWS6 · 01-20-2012, 04:30 AM

After seeing the new design F32 - makes me really happy that I have an E92.

I'm not liking the new body style at all - if the design is still the same when I am trading in, I'll be going with another mfg...

Frenchstef · 01-20-2012, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary88

E46 is far from forgotten.

I totally agree with you, the e46 is still very nice.

I thought that the e92/93 is the last 2 doors "serie 3" and should be replaced by the "serie 4".
And I dont like the 4 as a number...

Dark_Knight_335 · 01-20-2012, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebra99

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDeFranco1

You all have no choice you're all gonna have to move to the four pots one day. Your in-line sixes ain't going to outlive you that's for sure...

Yes they will!! *throws a hissy fit*

they just might! But I should hope they won't- God willing.

BEAR-AvHistory · 01-20-2012, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDeFranco1

You all have no choice you're all gonna have to move to the four pots one day. Your in-line sixes ain't going to outlive you that's for sure...

They said that about the V8 in the 1970's.

ndog14 · 01-20-2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gary88

E46 is far from forgotten.

In 50 years from now it will be the second most valuable classic 3 series, the E30 wins it every time. If I could have one car to keep for eternity in OEM, mint condition it would be an E30 M3. Even over an E46 M3 GTR.

Dark_Knight_335 · 01-20-2012, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDeFranco1

You all have no choice you're all gonna have to move to the four pots one day. Your in-line sixes ain't going to outlive you that's for sure...

They said that about the V8 in the 1970's.

Good point Bear.

redline2001 · 01-21-2012, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuraQ

Going from an inline 6 to a 4 cyl ain't worth it. Might as well go straight to the turbo charged M3 V6 if the rumors are true about its specs

If you don't want a 4cyl turbo then stay away from the f32 328i and get the f32 6cyl 335i. Problem solved, now that wasn't too hard was it.

Blubaron79 · 01-21-2012, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redline2001

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuraQ

Going from an inline 6 to a 4 cyl ain't worth it. Might as well go straight to the turbo charged M3 V6 if the rumors are true about its specs

If you don't want a 4cyl turbo then stay away from the f32 328i and get the f32 6cyl 335i. Problem solved, now that wasn't too hard was it.

People need to drive the N20 before they start making assumptions. I'd take the N20 over the N52 any day!

Cozy · 01-23-2012, 10:00 AM

Honestly would have no problem owning one of these.

I'm sure I'll say the same about the E9x when the F3x is out and the next 'must have' 3er.

WingZeroX5 · 01-23-2012, 10:01 AM

I want an F35

fistofsouth · 11-16-2012, 07:54 PM

If they are available with an inline 6 I will look at the 4 series, otherwise forget about it. I'm already having a hard time getting over the headlights that stretch to the grilles on the new BMWs, but a 3 Series (or it's successor) lacking an inline 6 seems sinful.

EDIT: Wow sorry I didn't notice how old this thread was.

N8N · 11-16-2012, 08:23 PM

I will always love a good straight six and if you are worried about your car looking old I will trade you my E92 even up for a good E9 3.0CSx with 5-speed any day of the week. The day I can't get a small/mid sized RWD coupe with a decent straight six engine will be a true day of mourning for car enthusiasts everywhere.

fistofsouth · 11-16-2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N8N

I will always love a good straight six and if you are worried about your car looking old I will trade you my E92 even up for a good E9 3.0CSx with 5-speed any day of the week. The day I can't get a small/mid sized RWD coupe with a decent straight six engine will be a true day of mourning for car enthusiasts everywhere.

Here, here. I just don't know what I'd do if there was not a BMW with an I-6, MT, RWD and that BMW Handling and Steering. I also must admit that I am absolutely crestfallen about the fact that the Coupe has now been exiled from the legendary 3 nameplate.

Amini77 · 11-16-2012, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike-y

yes. your car won't be cool anymore.

HAHAHA! but hey in a sense it's true I mean of course something better is always bound to come out. E46 isn't forgotten it's probably going to be a classic like the E30 but I highly doubt the E9x are going to be classics.

Amini77 · 11-16-2012, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuraQ

Going from an inline 6 to a 4 cyl ain't worth it. Might as well go straight to the turbo charged M3 V6 if the rumors are true about its specs

I got a chance to drive the F30 328i and man the thing is quick but the steering is more luxurious, short story though..it isn't anything like the E9x 328. And with sport body the F30 looks great IMO even though it has a squished nose

Can't wait for the F8x

gds52 · 11-16-2012, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335isWhite

What is going to happen when F32 comes to the market? will people forget about E9x's, like they have forgetten E46's?

Are you willing to trade your E92/93 for a new F32 then?

We will see when F32 comes.
As of now F30 steering wheel sucks. It's too light and shakes.
I had a 3k miles F32 loaner and the steering wheel was shaking @40-45mph speed.

However, the car was def quicker as compared to current automatic 328i.

01-19-2012, 09:07 PM	#23
GuitarDTO Private 17 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	I think the 3 series all still look classy. I love the e46 look still even though I have an e92. I think the 92 looks very classy and future proof. As long as they drive well they really aren't going anywhere. My main concern is how the n54 holds up over time and if I can get 200,000 out of it with minimal repairs
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-19-2012, 10:03 PM	#24
drkeng Major 156 Rep 1,014 Posts Drives: '18 M4 'vert Tanz Blue Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northbrook, IL iTrader: (0)	will probably get first 'vert, just like I did with e93--have first week production car. __________________ ///M4 'vert
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-19-2012, 10:40 PM	#25
BQTuning Banned 469 Rep 4,392 Posts Drives: 2012 Z4 sDrive35i M Sport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: bq@bqtuning.com iTrader: (0)	IMO....the N54 was built as a benchmark, and as many have said they over built this motor which is a good thing for those who have long term intensions for a build The new F32 motor just seems to be a more inferior motor to the N54. The F30-32 car itself looks sharp but I dont see it looking that much better than reputable 335is - legacy carrier of the N54 I remember when I got my 2007 E92 335i, and then the 335is came out I was I desired so strong to get the 335is, and not I finally got one. Samething happened with the release of the F9x cars, but I had more disappointment and repulse
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-20-2012, 12:15 AM	#26
electro-house Lieutenant 24 Rep 533 Posts Drives: 2008 335i coupe Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Phoenix iTrader: (0)	e46 still looks great, and still will when the f30 comes out. There comes a point where it becomes hard to keep developing a newer car to look "better", and perform significantly better, hence why e46 and e9x will continue to look great when the newer models are released, and are still awesome cars to drive. You couldn't say the same 10 years ago, about models two generations older still looking nice and performing as well. e36 looked outdated when e46 came out, but so much progression has occurred since then. Cars have naturally plateaued a little bit, IMO, along with many other things in life that were progressively getting better and better with technology say 10-15 years ago. It's just difficult to keep significantly improving cars that are already so good. I'd almost say the newer models are more of a change than a MAJOR upgrade. Still might be an upgrade, but not a MUST have by any means if your car is running fine. So no, I am in no way ditching my car when the f30 comes out. I STILL have regrets of trading in my e46 for my e92, if I could go back, I wouldn't have done it. Ask any average person what they think of an e46 330ci zhp and you'll be surprised how much people love those cars, still one of the baddest ass looking cars out there, and you can pick them up for $15k easy.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-20-2012, 02:51 AM	#27
Cozy Major 111 Rep 1,487 Posts Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey, England iTrader: (0)	The E46 M-Sport still looks great, they are still really popular and holding their value really well over here in the UK. Theres a black LCI E46 330i M-Sport convertible right around the corner from me and whenever I see it I can't help but want it...very modern looking, fresh lines, they did a great job here so much so that the E92/93 almost looks like a different model altogether. I'd not hesitate to own an E46 convertible, M-Sport or M3 if I needed some extra cash but wanted a BMW still, that's for sure. As has been said, E9x - F3x transition isn't so great so to most the difference won't be noticed and I doubt that people in love with the F3x would have a problem buying a used E9x, it'll still look fresh. The way I see it anyhow is that I have what, 2yrs until the F33 (presume that will be the cabrio), so I keep my E93 4yrs from now and by that time the F33 would have had two years to develop most of it's faults and have them fixed (and depreciate some ). Much like the '07 335i's over here had their issues ironed out by '08.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-20-2012, 04:30 AM	#29
1QuikWS6 No 55mph 1619 Rep 8,476 Posts Drives: F32 435ix MSport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blitzburgh, PA iTrader: (113) Garage List 2022 BMW M440ix Vert [0.00] 2015 BMW 435ix MSport [0.00] 2000 Pontiac Trans Am [0.00]	After seeing the new design F32 - makes me really happy that I have an E92. I'm not liking the new body style at all - if the design is still the same when I am trading in, I'll be going with another mfg... __________________ F32 435ix//MGM//M Sport-Prem-Tech-Driver Assist-Lighting-Cold Weather-Dyn Handling Pkgs//M4 Black Lthr Int w/M4 Alum Blade Trim//HK w/Bavsound Stg3//763M//M4 Euro LCI Tails//M4 Mirrors w/CF Covers//AWCarbon CF F/R Spoilers-Side Splitters-Diffuser 6WB/ID6 HU+HUD/IND M4 Alcantara Armrest//PURE S2 Turbo//AA FMIC+DP//ER CP+TIC//3.5bar TMAP/TS DV//AWE Tuning Exh w/Blk Tips//Turner MS CF Intake//BM3 Cary Jordan Tune//MPerf Diff//PrecRW Ignition Kit
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-23-2012, 10:00 AM	#37
Cozy Major 111 Rep 1,487 Posts Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey, England iTrader: (0)	Honestly would have no problem owning one of these. I'm sure I'll say the same about the E9x when the F3x is out and the next 'must have' 3er.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-23-2012, 10:01 AM	#38
WingZeroX5 Colonel 766 Rep 2,361 Posts Drives: F80 / F30 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (14)	I want an F35
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-16-2012, 07:54 PM	#39
fistofsouth Enlisted Member 4 Rep 41 Posts Drives: 209 BMW 335i E92 N54 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Denton, Texas iTrader: (1)	If they are available with an inline 6 I will look at the 4 series, otherwise forget about it. I'm already having a hard time getting over the headlights that stretch to the grilles on the new BMWs, but a 3 Series (or it's successor) lacking an inline 6 seems sinful. EDIT: Wow sorry I didn't notice how old this thread was.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-16-2012, 08:23 PM	#40
N8N Lieutenant Colonel 168 Rep 1,843 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Berwyn Heights, MD iTrader: (2)	I will always love a good straight six and if you are worried about your car looking old I will trade you my E92 even up for a good E9 3.0CSx with 5-speed any day of the week. The day I can't get a small/mid sized RWD coupe with a decent straight six engine will be a true day of mourning for car enthusiasts everywhere.
	Appreciate 0 Quote