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01-13-2011, 09:31 PM | #1 |
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PBX vs AA
im trying to do some work under the hood on my n52... first things first i was thinking about throwing a chip in it... now i know powerbox is under 300... but is the 500 dollars i will spend for the active autowerkz mod be that much worth it? i was also thinking about an intake... what would u recommend for me ? thanks alotttt
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01-13-2011, 09:49 PM | #2 |
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As far as intake goes, just do a carbon filter delete and get an afe drop in and scoops. Cold air intakes sound good but don't do much.
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01-13-2011, 11:48 PM | #4 |
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2 things you should automatically shit can from your mind right now: PBX and CAI.
I just UNINSTALLED an aFe stage 2 CAI because I lost a ton of power with it on my car. I removed the PBX after 3 weeks because it made absolutely no difference at the track. If you want to get some real power go for the AA or OE tunes. Personally I would do exhaust before either of those. Contact Craven 328 on this board from MMW and ask for pricing on his headers and muffler. Sweetest sounding and best bang for the buck. After you do that you can get the tune modified for running with the free flowing exhaust setup you're running, that way you can maximize your gains. As Anthony said, Carbon Filter Delete, Scoops, and K&N Drop in for your intake. That's all you need. Unless you decide to do a 3 stage manifold swap. Gotta shell out some serious cash for that though. Hope this helps.
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01-14-2011, 02:12 AM | #5 |
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Only annoying problem about a flash tune, is that every time BMW does an 'update' - they erase your custom tune and it needs to be reloaded
In the case where you have to send your ECU in for aftermarket flash, since you are not local to tuning company, this is a real PITA I've never before seen a car company that has such a love for reprogramming the car every frackin time you bring it in. I have it in writing in my service records that no reprogramming can be done without my signature 1st. But sooner or later there is gonna be an update that I will prolly need to have done. Hell, I've had my custom tune in my GM's (and constantly tweak them) for 10 yrs without ever having to worry about it being overwritten. With my GM's I have the tuning software - so actually I could reload it at will if I ever needed to...
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01-14-2011, 02:46 AM | #6 | |
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Anyway, once the EZflash module gets released, its gonna make this PITA a hell of a lot easier to deal with. Stupid stealerships...
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01-14-2011, 03:34 AM | #7 |
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Actually, yes I spent a lot of time over the years on that forum - same car in my sig, same handle.
I still have that car and after 35k+ in mods over the $27K I spent on the car, I pretty much am done and have it where I want it. Especially after the Lingenfelter built 427 install I still love the design of that car and the power/handling - not gonna ever get rid of it. It's now 11 yrs old with only 34k miles on it & you don't see many of them at the car shows any more. I told my wife to just bury me in that car in one big box... Who were you over there & what did you have? Why'd you get rid of it? I currently have the PBX, and happy with it for what it is - but obviously would go for a full out tune if it was EZ to reload yourself. After years of playing with the LS tuning software & getting good at it - I don't think I could go through that again with BMW tuning. I understand there's only so much you can do with the N52, but I'm not looking to go to great extremes on the BMW as I did on my LS cars as it is simply my DD. What's this EZFlash you speak of? 1st I heard of it
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01-14-2011, 08:12 AM | #10 |
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My bad
I guess I'm old school and so used to working on cars that only have ONE ECU that controls the engine - therefore any flash would overwrite the engine parameters. Our cars have many modules to program that could be updated that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual engine parameters so updating them would have no effect on engine tune
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01-14-2011, 12:16 PM | #11 | |
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01-14-2011, 01:51 PM | #12 |
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The AA is a customized tune that is optimal if you have aftermarket bolt ons. The PBX is a great off the shelf option but for a true tune, go with AA.
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01-15-2011, 11:46 AM | #15 |
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01-15-2011, 02:17 PM | #16 |
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hey im on ls1tech same name as well. Modded WS6 to play with and a 2007 E92 328xi for the daily. im not planing on doing any tuning but will put the K&N drop in and carbon delete plus the bmw performance exhaust. here are my rides.
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01-16-2011, 03:58 PM | #17 |
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Well, since we turned this into a T/A pic fest - here's mine:
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01-16-2011, 07:17 PM | #18 |
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01-17-2011, 12:08 AM | #19 |
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That's the Steelers Black n Gold Tribute
What times do you run with those slicks? I can't get out of the 11's with those street tires shown - course I don't like to warm them up properly either since they're $300/tire
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01-17-2011, 12:11 AM | #20 |
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well are you in the 11 with those street tires...i say that pretty fast. i was doing 12.30s when i was stock with a nitto. now with all my mods and the slicks its high 10s off the bottle
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01-17-2011, 12:13 AM | #21 |
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You need drag radials or slicks on different wheels for the track. Wouldn't hurt to have a set of V6 rear springs lying around to throw in when you want to go run either. Not real hard to swap rear springs on those cars.
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01-17-2011, 12:27 AM | #22 | |
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I don't take it to the track that often, so I'm no expert with the car in that aspect at all. Not very much traction off the line. If you're running 10's with the stock size engine + NOS that ain't bad
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