[chris82]

Hi guys. Since this is mainly occupied by track people, I figured I'd post in here. I have a set of GC Race plates (camber/caster adjustable) for the E90 for sale. They have been used with JRZ shocks and 2.25" ID springs. They don't need a rebuild or anything and are fully functional, nothing broken or damaged, etc. All screws included. I've heard a noise from them a handful of times in the 8-10k miles I've used them. Here are some pictures. I have posted in the for sale section as well. Asking $250 obo + free shipping to US.

Thanks for looking

[Taskmaster]

Noisey? And going back to stock?

I though you were cool, I though we were boys...why would you do this?

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Noisey? And going back to stock?

I though you were cool, I though we were boys...why would you do this?

Probably because $4k suspension is overkill for a daily commuter that sees limited track time. If the NVH doesn't get to you, then the expensive rebuilds or prematurely worn tires might lol.

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Probably because $4k suspension is overkill for a daily commuter that sees limited track time. If the NVH doesn't get to you, then the expensive rebuilds or prematurely worn tires might lol.

Crazy talk

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Crazy talk

2nd and 3rd-ed

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Crazy talk

Don't get me wrong, Ohlinz, JRZ, etc truly represent the best money can buy but I gotta wonder how Chris really feels putting x miles on that setup every day, knowing every incremental mile not driven on track is another mile closer to rebuilding shocks or replacing tires.

I had BMW PS / Dinan / M3 suspension bits on my 135is and I felt that was pushing the limits of a dual duty in terms of practicality and comfort. Maybe I just have a lower threshold level of "comfortable."

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Don't get me wrong, Ohlinz, JRZ, etc truly represent the best money can buy but I gotta wonder how Chris really feels putting x miles on that setup every day, knowing every incremental mile not driven on track is another mile closer to rebuilding shocks or replacing tires.

I had BMW PS / Dinan / M3 suspension bits on my 135is and I felt that was pushing the limits of a dual duty in terms of practicality and comfort. Maybe I just have a lower threshold level of "comfortable."

I dunno about that...

Ride quality of my TCK DA is pretty good when dialed down for streets (that is with solid camber plates and stiffer bushings all around), actually quite a bit better than the BMW PS kit I used to have. The only problem is the occasional ground clearance issue.

Tires take a hit when running aggressive camber on the streets though, but I started running slow wearing all season tires for streets now, so it isn't as bad as it was before.

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

I dunno about that...

Ride quality of my TCK DA is pretty good when dialed down for streets (that is with solid camber plates and stiffer bushings all around), actually quite a bit better than the BMW PS kit I used to have. The only problem is the occasional ground clearance issue.

Tires take a hit when running aggressive camber on the streets though, but I started running slow wearing all season tires for streets now, so it isn't as bad as it was before.

I think you're missing my main point. The comment on comfort was secondary to the cost of the more frequent rebuilds associated with such high end equipment, and TCK's are not on the same level as JRZ's (this coming from a guy who runs TCK DA's).

OP's plates are top notch but probably better suited for a more track focused car, or to your point, be prepared for tires wearing down every 10k.

Happy to take this offline to not derail the thread. Chris let me know if you want me to remove my comments.

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

I think you're missing my main point. The comment on comfort was secondary to the cost of the more frequent rebuilds associated with such high end equipment, and TCK's are not on the same level as JRZ's (this coming from a guy who runs TCK DA's).

OP's plates are top notch but probably better suited for a more track focused car, or to your point, be prepared for tires wearing down every 10k.

Happy to take this offline to not derail the thread. Chris let me know if you want me to remove my comments.

No said this hobby is cheap.

But you are right, even "high end" twin tubes are no match for high quality monotubes, despite the vendors here want you to think they are.

Rebuild frequency all comes to subjected use, original quality, and a bit of luck. But most quality monotubes should last 25k miles at the very least for dual use applications like ours.

Don't think OP can complain about thread jacking, after all he posted a FS thread outside the classified section

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

No said this hobby is cheap.

But you are right, even "high end" twin tubes are no match for high quality monotubes, despite the vendors here want you to think they are.

Rebuild frequency all comes to subjected use, original quality, and a bit of luck. But most quality monotubes should last 25k miles at the very least for dual use applications like ours.

Don't think OP can complain about thread jacking, after all he posted a FS thread outside the classified section

Agreed except I just don't consider the daily commute as part of my hobby lol.

[chris82]

Wow, stupid E90 didn't send me any notifications of this thread.

I had the race plates switched out with the street plates a few months ago to see if it would solve my noise issue and it hasn't. This issue MUST be internal to the JRZs and is a defect because it has been there since the shocks were BRAND NEW. For that reason I was thinking of going back to stock, but I just feel like that is a complete waste of time/money considering the cost of the setup and the fact that I'd be back at square 1 with modifications so I decided against it (been going back and forth on this until now).

The JRZs are holding up just fine and so I do not feel bad about driving them on the street 80 miles everyday because the performance remains. I'd have to have a new set swapped in to really be able to see how much performance they lost because it feels that minimal. They have at least 10-11k miles on them at this point and they still ride nice and control my springs without any issues even on the lowest rebound settings (1/22 clicks). The roads I drive on are decent, but not the best. I hit a pot holes and they go on like it never happened. After this many miles I'm just stunned at the durability of the dampers, truly stunned. I think these have at least another 10k miles to go before I even think about a rebuild.

In regards to the wear with camber plates I get an alignment around fall/winter before I put the winter wheels on to bring it down around -2 and I don't have any wear issues.

To this day the handling of the car and how it follows the surface of the road puts a smile on my face so that's what matters and that's how I see it.

Edit: Checked the odometer reading from my receipt when I had them put on. JRZs are at 18,000 miles at this point

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Don't get me wrong, Ohlinz, JRZ, etc truly represent the best money can buy but I gotta wonder how Chris really feels putting x miles on that setup every day, knowing every incremental mile not driven on track is another mile closer to rebuilding shocks or replacing tires.

I had BMW PS / Dinan / M3 suspension bits on my 135is and I felt that was pushing the limits of a dual duty in terms of practicality and comfort. Maybe I just have a lower threshold level of "comfortable."

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

I dunno about that...

Ride quality of my TCK DA is pretty good when dialed down for streets (that is with solid camber plates and stiffer bushings all around), actually quite a bit better than the BMW PS kit I used to have. The only problem is the occasional ground clearance issue.

Tires take a hit when running aggressive camber on the streets though, but I started running slow wearing all season tires for streets now, so it isn't as bad as it was before.

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Happy to take this offline to not derail the thread. Chris let me know if you want me to remove my comments.

All good! NP

[chris82]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

No said this hobby is cheap.

But you are right, even "high end" twin tubes are no match for high quality monotubes, despite the vendors here want you to think they are.

Rebuild frequency all comes to subjected use, original quality, and a bit of luck. But most quality monotubes should last 25k miles at the very least for dual use applications like ours.

Don't think OP can complain about thread jacking, after all he posted a FS thread outside the classified section

The JRZ RS 2 I have are a high gas pressure twin tube. They are just ridiculous in terms of performance. I say this as I've ridden many times in the monotube JRZ RS Pro ($5,500 for dampers alone) and they feel oh so similar. JRZ even said they engineered the RS 2 to feel like a damper with an external reservoir and they definitely got it right. Pretty much everything I've ever thought/heard about a twin tube damper went out the window when I put them on

[Taskmaster]

So are you going back to stock stock?

[chris82]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

So are you going back to stock stock?

No, I'm keeping everything on. Race car ftw

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by chris82

No, I'm keeping everything on. Race car ftw

Good.

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by chris82

The JRZ RS 2 I have are a high gas pressure twin tube. They are just ridiculous in terms of performance. I say this as I've ridden many times in the monotube JRZ RS Pro ($5,500 for dampers alone) and they feel oh so similar. JRZ even said they engineered the RS 2 to feel like a damper with an external reservoir and they definitely got it right. Pretty much everything I've ever thought/heard about a twin tube damper went out the window when I put them on

RS2 is still a monotube shock, just without the nitrogen remote reservoir on the Pro. Surely you must know that.

They are not twin tube at all...

[chris82]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

RS2 is still a monotube shock, just without the nitrogen remote reservoir on the Pro. Surely you must know that.

They are not twin tube at all...

No, they are a twin tube. These are the revision of the JRZ RS which was a high gas pressure twin tube. The RS1 and RS Pro (ext reservoir) are monotube.

[chris82]

Still for sale all, $200 OBO. want them gone

[Taskmaster]

Race plates eh? Hmm...

[chris82]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Race plates eh? Hmm...

It's a tough sell...

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by chris82

It's a tough sell...

I might...

[chris82]

Still for sale folks!