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      07-26-2014, 07:02 AM   #1
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Help with coding ma retrofitings e90 EU

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Last time i've retrofitted my car with:
-Logic7 top hifi
-pdc front
-electric roller sun blind for rear window
-electric seat with memory
-TCU bluetooth
-TV unit hybrid
-independent park heating(webasto)
-electric folding mirrors with elctro chrom
-antitheft alarm OEM
I think i've not forgotten any thing
everythink have installed properly, only think left to do is coding. Some thing like electric seats and folding mirrors i've coded succesfully i guess, but i'bve got problem with other, that's why i'm writting here to ask for your help.

Now i'm trying to code L7, i've added VO $677 to CAS and FRM and change some registry in CAPPL ecu, after coded i've gain in Idrive l7 logo witg sorrund settings but still don't have voice from any speaker

Ive made self test by inpa and only 6 speakers works;/ what am i doing wrong?
I will be very gratefully for every priceless help
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      07-26-2014, 10:38 AM   #2
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Logic 7 use fiber optic. Check first the loop.
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      07-26-2014, 02:48 PM   #3
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Logic 7 use fiber optic. Check first the loop.
Each hardware were installed properly, i'm 100% sure, i only need coding adwises. Anyway i've already coded succesfully l7 and it plays briliant, i've just coded 3 ecus by empty .MAN file and everything were set ok.
Another thing: i want to code is



1.antitheft alarm OEM --$303- is it correct VO??
2.electric roller sun blind for rear window $414 Is it correct VO ?
refer to components above i'm getting in NCS this type of issue
:"Following feature is invalid for FA......." what does it mean??


3.TCU bluetooth
For TCU when i try to connect with mulf ecu i'll get issue like below
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      07-27-2014, 02:22 PM   #4
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Bit o/t but where did you get the front PDC from? I've only found kits for the rear.
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      07-27-2014, 03:30 PM   #5
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Bit o/t but where did you get the front PDC from? I've only found kits for the rear.
In Poland, in our market there are plenty of them to buy. Actually i've already properly coded some things, pdc front as well.
Still have problem with coded:
TCU--get coapi erorr 2041
oem alarm system- get coapi erorr 2020 when prompt of connecting with DWAS module
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzm...it?usp=sharing

-Electric roller blind for rear window- i still have a problem with adding $414 or other accordingly FA code

Can anyone help me?
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      07-28-2014, 08:12 AM   #6
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mulf require #0307 time criteria
pdc require removal $507 option and addition $508 option
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      07-28-2014, 11:35 AM   #7
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mulf require #0307 time criteria
pdc require removal $507 option and addition $508 option
How can i add this time criteria #0307?? A same as every VO to FA??

Pdc Works.

-refer to alarm oem i still have problem with permission to DWAS module;/i'm getting a same error coapi 2020;/ any idea how to get in??

-refer to electric roller for rear window i've browsed NCEXPER/DATEN/E89AT.000
and properly VO for it is $415 i've aded it and recode every module by empty .MAN file but wiothout any result;/;/ still doesn't work

I found in CAPPL this option like below

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzm...it?usp=sharing
i've tried to change it to aktiv but it always restores to originally value;/;/ i don't know why, maybe i'm doing something wrong when i execute job sg-codieren.
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Hi Melonidas, that's an impressive list of retrofits!

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...1.antitheft alarm OEM --$303- is it correct VO??...
- OEM alarm VO code for E89 is $302 (K302 also works, this would allow the dealers to recognize that it's a retrofit).
- Try the above first, if still no contact with DWAS, then check the power connection (faulty, broken or terminal 15 iso terminal 30) and after that check the full length SW/RT cable IRS_SINE connection between DWAI and DWAS.

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How can i add this time criteria #0307?? A same as every VO to FA??

Pdc Works.

-refer to alarm oem i still have problem with permission to DWAS module;/i'm getting a same error coapi 2020;/ any idea how to get in??

-refer to electric roller for rear window i've browsed NCEXPER/DATEN/E89AT.000
and properly VO for it is $415 i've aded it and recode every module by empty .MAN file but wiothout any result;/;/ still doesn't work

I found in CAPPL this option like below

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzm...it?usp=sharing
i've tried to change it to aktiv but it always restores to originally value;/;/ i don't know why, maybe i'm doing something wrong when i execute job sg-codieren.
electric roller sunblind require specific jbe module, basic module don't have sunblind activation circuit inside
time criteria changed via FA editing, remove one, add another
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Hi Melonidas, that's an impressive list of retrofits!



- OEM alarm VO code for E89 is $302 (K302 also works, this would allow the dealers to recognize that it's a retrofit).
- Try the above first, if still no contact with DWAS, then check the power connection (faulty, broken or terminal 15 iso terminal 30) and after that check the full length SW/RT cable IRS_SINE connection between DWAI and DWAS.

Good Luck!
i've tried both of them, only $302 i was able to write, I've tried to connect by INPA to DWAS module but with a same effect as by NCS, so i have to check power on terminal and between terminal and siren, maybe there's some interupt in wires, Maybe siren is broken down as well, but i don't really believe in that.
Tell me, Does signal come into siren ( via SW/RT) in case of theft a car?


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electric roller sunblind require specific jbe module, basic module don't have sunblind activation circuit inside
time criteria changed via FA editing, remove one, add another
I've add #0307 instead of #0306, but nothing happened to my TCU, any idea?
Is there possibility to get wrong made loop in most? I've already installed amp logic 7( it works properly) and every time i put key into ignition i get message that SOS call failure in yellow color, so i guess that loop is well configured.

Refer to roller, do i have to buy new one?? How can i recognize properly JBE which will activate circuit for roller sun blind. Is it necesarry? is it hardware issue or software?? I

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if you get sos call failure then you need to check whole most ring
as to roller sunblind - you can get jbe from the car you've got sunblind, or order new
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In Poland, in our market there are plenty of them to buy.
A lot of stolen cars from e.g. The Netherlands are in Polen.
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What is your manufacture date?
You have installed a tcu with bluetooth? (first generation)
Do you have a us or europe spec car?

Btw do you also have pics of installing the 7 logic system?

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      07-29-2014, 05:53 AM   #14
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if you get sos call failure then you need to check whole most ring
as to roller sunblind - you can get jbe from the car you've got sunblind, or order new
I'm 100% sure that most ring was configured well, because-i haven't notice that but in settings menu i've got bluetooth- as active , i even pair my personally mobile to car and make a call it works very nice- but i've noticed some issues:
1.I can't accept number to phone in dial number menu in idrive, i can only choose contacts from my mobile and start calling from mobile
2. Telephone button on my wheel doesn't work- do i have to add bmw assist VO to CAS and FRM?
3. Is there possibility to browse contacts from my mobile via IDRIVE?
4. when my mobile is connected to my car it shows me different vin number of my car(TCU was bought used and from different car- IS this situation may occurs some problem with bluetooth?
5. Does SOS failure system may be conected with eject box situated inside of the central armrest? If yes i've to check pins, mybe i've made some mistakes there

Refer to roller- i can't get jbe from car i bought roller, i won't buy new as well, i want to by use, but need more info how recognize properly JBE, i mean numbers or sequences of codes on the box there must some information how to get compatible module;/.

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A lot of stolen cars from e.g. The Netherlands are in Polen.
Maybe, every parts that i bought i was with receipt or invoice, but i really don't know history of each of them.

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What is your manufacture date?
You have installed a tcu with bluetooth? (first generation)
Do you have a us or europe spec car?

Btw do you also have pics of installing the 7 logic system?
Manufacture Date is 25.04.2006
My Car is EU version left hand

TCU that i've installed in my car you can see below

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzm...it?usp=sharing

Unfortunately i didn't take a pics of installing L7 system, but if you need information or help just ask
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in settings menu i've got bluetooth- as active
That bluetooth is available in the settings menu is just coding. Even if you haven't got bluetooth you can still enable it.

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do i have to add bmw assist VO to CAS and FRM?
If you also installed the external speaker on the drivers side you should also add bmw assist.
First make sure everything works than you can remove it if you want to.

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Is there possibility to browse contacts from my mobile via IDRIVE?
If everything works fine then this will work out of the box.

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when my mobile is connected to my car it shows me different vin number of my car(TCU was bought used and from different car- IS this situation may occurs some problem with bluetooth?
You should fix that first.
If that is your bluetooth problem I don't think so.

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Manufacture Date is 25.04.2006
My Car is EU version left hand
You don't need to change your production date. You can leave it as it is.

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TCU that i've installed in my car you can see below
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzm...it?usp=sharing
Your tcu is for the usa. I'm using an "everest" version. (europe)

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Unfortunately i didn't take a pics of installing L7 system, but if you need information or help just ask
Was it a lot of work installing the wires?
In the future I would like to upgrade from stock to L7.
Did you bought the wiring from the dealer?

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Did you also change the roof electronics?
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I'm 100% sure that most ring was configured well, because-i haven't notice that but in settings menu i've got bluetooth- as active , i even pair my personally mobile to car and make a call it works very nice- but i've noticed some issues:
1.I can't accept number to phone in dial number menu in idrive, i can only choose contacts from my mobile and start calling from mobile
2. Telephone button on my wheel doesn't work- do i have to add bmw assist VO to CAS and FRM?
3. Is there possibility to browse contacts from my mobile via IDRIVE?
4. when my mobile is connected to my car it shows me different vin number of my car(TCU was bought used and from different car- IS this situation may occurs some problem with bluetooth?
5. Does SOS failure system may be conected with eject box situated inside of the central armrest? If yes i've to check pins, mybe i've made some mistakes there

Refer to roller- i can't get jbe from car i bought roller, i won't buy new as well, i want to by use, but need more info how recognize properly JBE, i mean numbers or sequences of codes on the box there must some information how to get compatible module;/.


Maybe, every parts that i bought i was with receipt or invoice, but i really don't know history of each of them.



Manufacture Date is 25.04.2006
My Car is EU version left hand

TCU that i've installed in my car you can see below

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzm...it?usp=sharing

Unfortunately i didn't take a pics of installing L7 system, but if you need information or help just ask
where did you got INPA and NCSEXPER ? did you upgraded coding files data ?
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That bluetooth is available in the settings menu is just coding. Even if you haven't got bluetooth you can still enable it.


If you also installed the external speaker on the drivers side you should also add bmw assist.
First make sure everything works than you can remove it if you want to.
I haven't installed it, because it was unnecessary


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If everything works fine then this will work out of the box.


You should fix that first.
If that is your bluetooth problem I don't think so.
How can i change VIN in TCU??


You don't need to change your production date. You can leave it as it is.


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Your tcu is for the usa. I'm using an "everest" version. (europe)
How do you know that? Are you sure 100%? Because i remember that i bought EU version


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Was it a lot of work installing the wires?
In the future I would like to upgrade from stock to L7.
Did you bought the wiring from the dealer?
To buy every harnesses will cost a lot of money, that's why i do everything myself- i bought one used full inner harness from ford kuga and one harness came from E90 it was for bluetooth, it had many plugs, conectors, optic fibre, most ring.

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where did you got INPA and NCSEXPER ? did you upgraded coding files data ?
I used this thread
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=918608
to instal ncs exper and INPA.
last time i've update sp-daten to v51.3


Refer to alarm system, i solve problem, i don't know how but i put into slot F19 broken fuse, after replacing it i had permission to dwas module, i recode it and alarm will work properly
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Send me the vin (last 7 numbers) of the car which the tcu was removed from.
I'm not 100% sure but all my customers have an everest tcu in their trunk.
My latest car which I bought also has an everest ecu.
What does ista-d says when you do a quick test of the car? Does the tcu answer and is green?

Use Winkfp to change the vin.
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Send me the vin (last 7 numbers) of the car which the tcu was removed from.
I'm not 100% sure but all my customers have an everest tcu in their trunk.
My latest car which I bought also has an everest ecu.
What does ista-d says when you do a quick test of the car? Does the tcu answer and is green?

Use Winkfp to change the vin.
I can read only this VIN wile i trying to conect to TCU--41641 , i still don't have permission to TCU unit.
Do i need ISTA -D to do quick test? TCU works as fairly normal bluetooth, i mean i can connect my mobile to it and phone to everyone, but other features of TCU weren't configured;/

Could you tell me how to do that to change VIN, i am new in WINKFP i need some support, i don't want to broke down something

refer to SOS failure system it turn out that i had wrong conection beetwen eject bo in central armrest and TCU unit below is my diagram, could anyone help me with this?
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      07-31-2014, 08:47 PM   #21
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question - why do you want to retrofit TCU in Poland? I dont think this service is available unless something has changed recently.

As to TCU update, do you have Icom or coding cable only? if you have coding cable only dont update software in TCU or MULF, unless you are asking for trouble.
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He doesn't need use TCU, but this device has bluetooth so IMO this is the easiest way to have a bluetooth in the car.
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