AFE intake YES or NO

SV Concepts · 06-09-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Your Logic

BTW, I went to the gym for the first time today, and I did a set of curls. I waited 2 minutes, and then I tried to do another set. Instead of getting stronger, though, I was WEAKER! I was only able to do 6 reps instead of 8. Thus, it is clear that lifting weights makes you weaker.

Doesn't sound logical, does it?
So why do you expect any different with your car. It takes time. And, your 2nd run will not be as strong as your first, most times, because the engine heats up.

roadkillrob · 06-09-2009, 03:13 PM

Someone had a post on here showing that the stock airbox flows ok up into the high 300 hp range, then you need to go to dual cones or something else to get enough flow to keep up, but for most people with just a procede or JB3, the stock airbox works just fine - you really have to get to downpipes and other mods to really need more air.

SV Concepts · 06-09-2009, 03:47 PM

True, to get the max benefit you should modify the motor on both the top and bottom. However, you never need a reason to increase airflow and filtration to your motor. More air (and cooler air, at that) is ALWAYS a good thing. Unlike in your girlfriend's head

marcvtec · 06-09-2009, 04:03 PM

Do you guys think scoops with the DCI would help lower the temp?
considering now we are forcing more air in the engine bay.

SV Concepts II · 06-11-2009, 03:29 PM

Yup, the scoops definitely do help lower intake temperatures.

Mr. 5 · 06-11-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by roadkillrob

Someone had a post on here showing that the stock airbox flows ok up into the high 300 hp range, then you need to go to dual cones or something else to get enough flow to keep up, but for most people with just a procede or JB3, the stock airbox works just fine - you really have to get to downpipes and other mods to really need more air.

I was able to get 400 whp with the stock air box on a dyno.

Salco3 · 06-12-2009, 01:11 PM

Open air filters underhood = Hot Air Intake

i2iSTUDIOS · 06-12-2009, 01:35 PM

I felt more of a drop in HP at low RPM so I sold it. I bought the Helene drop in filter with scoops and i'm good to go!

Former_Boosted_IS · 06-12-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali@Jlevi SW

Yup, the scoops definitely do help lower intake temperatures.

Do you have data logs to support these claims?

sleepdoc · 06-12-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jlevi SW

Doesn't sound logical, does it?
So why do you expect any different with your car. It takes time. And, your 2nd run will not be as strong as your first, most times, because the engine heats up.

Not a good comparison....

SV Concepts III · 06-12-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Do you have data logs to support these claims?

Here's a good thread supporting scoops. I am not sure of the validity of those HP numbers but most customers, including myself, feel a definite gain at speed when airflow is a factor. It is hard to dyno the scoops as it's very difficult to mimic wind at 40MPH.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...orsepower+gain

Ferre86 · 06-13-2009, 03:39 PM

just installed mine yestarday should i wait for a while if it attempts good or just replace it with another intake. ?

jgalaxy · 06-13-2009, 05:59 PM

No improvement on this end. Dont waste your money.

MrChessy · 06-13-2009, 07:09 PM

Let me spell it out for you. N.O.

Former_Boosted_IS · 06-15-2009, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

Here's a good thread supporting scoops. I am not sure of the validity of those HP numbers but most customers, including myself, feel a definite gain at speed when airflow is a factor. It is hard to dyno the scoops as it's very difficult to mimic wind at 40MPH.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...orsepower+gain

Nick, if someone can log before and after IATs and wastegate duty cycle, then we could get a better idea.

06-09-2009, 03:13 PM	#46
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06-09-2009, 04:03 PM	#48
marcvtec Banned 407 Rep 2,704 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	Do you guys think scoops with the DCI would help lower the temp? considering now we are forcing more air in the engine bay.
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