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Pls help?? Misfires under boost after reinstalling Rev3
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11-13-2012, 08:28 AM | #1 |
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Pls help?? Misfires under boost after reinstalling Rev3
Pls help? Have been having major issues with misfires after re-installing my Procede Rev3?
Recently had both turbo’s replaced after a loud police siren noise. Car has been running stock for several months as I was fighting with BMW to cover under warranty. So last weekend I decide to start re-installing some mods, just the Rev 3 and AR downpipes. However I've now hit a major issue, car is misfiring intermittently when boosting over 10-12 PSI?? Seems especially prominent when temp is still between 150-175F and when doing a logging run from low rpms, and just as boost hits about 10-12psi? When engine is fully warm misfire is intermittent, but when moderately warm sometime misfires actually persist until I switch back to map 0 or otherwise I have to completely re-start? However once back in stock mode after a restart, car runs perfectly fine without misfire?? Due to my altitude and poor fuel quality (stay in Johannesburg South Africa at 5700ft) I decided to start trouble shooting conservatively with stg 0 at a start boost setting of 10, with the 11-25 maps I had loaded previously, just for consistency sake. After the first few misfires I then re-installed the firmware and maps (making sure they were the correct and compatible versions) with user interface 5.32, misfires still persisted though? Then after speaking to Robert I switched to the new 9-10 firmware and maps using user interface 5.34, and still the same thing? Then started looking at hardware, first thing I did was to pull the plugs, they still look relatively good as I had them replaced 3000 miles ago and have been running stock since then. Had a spare coil pack at home so swapped it between cylinders, but misfire codes still appeared in multiple cylinders (see below)? Logged the car on several runs (logs below), some didn’t even reach higher rpm’s as was misfiring so badly. Seems AFR’s oscillate/jump to lean when misfires occur (have highlighted with a ring in the below logs), even flat line at 20 when misfires persist? So the way I see it, it could only be one of the following in order of probability: - Injectors (unfortunately I can’t seem to load INPA on my 64bit laptop?) - HP Fuel pump - O2 sensors - Plugs (next I’m going to swap these out) - Vanos - Coil packs - Procede hardware issue Have eliminated bad fuel as I filled up again at a different filling station Any suggestions on what to test/try or log next? Really don’t want to uninstall the DP’s as they are such a PITA to remove [IMG]http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy38/Baracus135i/Log412-11-2012.jpg[/IMG |
11-14-2012, 11:24 AM | #3 |
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I had this problem with the procede as well and was never able to find a solution. I would try your plugs first if they have never been changed. Have you sent these logs to Vishnu?
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11-14-2012, 11:57 AM | #4 |
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In regard to plugs, sometimes new isn't always necessary, make sure they are gapped correctly is what is important.
Otherwise I'm not sure where else I can help so free bump. Edit-Have you considered going back to an older firmware and map that was stable? Also are you able to get race gas in your country for testing purposes to rule out octane issues? (100+ octane). Last edited by Jeff@TopGearSolutions; 11-14-2012 at 12:05 PM.. |
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I do recall people having misifires that would simply never go away even on the lowest of boost settings. As you probably know and have troubleshooted it normally starts with, spark plugs, coil packs, injectors, intake valve cleaning, after that it starts getting tricky to troubleshoot. Have you tried calling vishnu, I know the time difference might make that difficult. Also, are you 100% certain the o2 sensors were installed correctly? In their appropriate location? It's common for them to be placed in the wrong bung hole. Do you only have misfire codes, are there any other shadow codes? |
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Checked with the BT cable and no other shadow codes, just the misfire ones |
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11-14-2012, 01:22 PM | #8 |
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Please excuse my ignorance but does your check engine light come on each time you have a misfire? And you then check the code and it shows misfire? Is that how you know you're getting misfires?
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11-14-2012, 01:42 PM | #9 |
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No engine check light thus far, am reading the codes either on the Procede or with the BT cable. However can immediately feel when it's misfiring, major hestitations when intermitent, and then if it persists it basically runs like a tractor on 4 or 5 cyclinders
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11-19-2012, 08:03 AM | #10 |
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***Misfires Resolved***
So finally got round to changing my plugs this weekend, and good news the misfires are gone
Really though that after 3000 miles they would be fine, but had close look at the old plugs again and I could've of guessed it, seems BMW left one of the old plugs in, still had the Bosch logo in blue?? Which means it one of the original plugs, the logo on all the others was dark green |
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11-19-2012, 08:19 AM | #11 | |
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Two completely different banks. Perhaps the other cylinder misfired as a domino effect of the DME cutting fuel to the first one? In any case I hope you remain misfire free Do us a favour and post up in a couple of days to verify whether this worked. Sometimes problems go away initially only to rear their ugly heads later. Been there....done that. |
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