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03-29-2011, 10:19 AM | #1 |
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Out of state purchase: legal to drive with no plate/registration?
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I just put a deposit down on a well equipped 2007 335i being sold by a fellow e90 member. It's my first BMW and I'm psyched! I'll be traveling to New York to pick up the car and drive it back to Boston. What's not clear to me is whether it's legal to drive the car back with no plates. My thinking is that having the bill of sale and title on hand would be acceptable (the car of course would be insured). However, I haven't found anything that definitively states that this is legal. I reviewed the MA RMV website and here's what I've found: --MA does not issue temporary plates. --To register a car, a title is required (see the bottom of this page). MA does allow the transfer of a registration from one vehicle to another within a 7 day grace period (see here). It's still not clear to me whether I could take the plates off my old car, put them on the new car, drive it home, then visit the RMV. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks! |
03-29-2011, 10:33 AM | #2 |
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Should have searched the forum more thoroughly...
From this thread it looks like I can in fact put the plates from my old car onto the new car, drive it home, then visit the RMV within 7 days.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487039 So on that note, anyone want a banged up 1996 Honda Civic with 130k miles? (Although, living in Boston, I've never been nervous about someone scratching or dinging my car, and now I'm going to be a nervous wreck). lol |
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03-29-2011, 11:02 AM | #3 |
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congrats on the purchase, you'll love it compare to your previous car
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03-29-2011, 11:57 AM | #4 |
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congrats! woohoo!
hmmm, I'd recommend giving your insurance a call and let them know what you're planning to do....add the new car to your policy just in case something happens on your way back. I don't know whether using the plate is legal but definitely driving a car without insurance is illegal. |
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03-29-2011, 12:01 PM | #5 |
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I wouldn't for a million dollars drive without the car being fully insured - that's just asking for something bad to happen.
I just realized I have a friend of a friend who works in law enforcement. I'm going to ask him if the plate transfer as described on the RMV's website covers my particular situation. I'll let everyone know what I find out. |
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03-29-2011, 12:06 PM | #6 |
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Keep us posted. This is definitely a "gray" area ...
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03-29-2011, 12:22 PM | #7 |
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I know you cannot do that with a motorcycle. I purchased my motorcycle in upstate NY and the only way I could ride it home was to get it fully insured and registered so that I had the actual plate on it.
I would work something out with the current buyer and have them drive it up for you and then maybe purchase them a ticket on the Fung Wah bus back to NYC, hahaha.
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03-29-2011, 12:27 PM | #8 |
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I bought my car in FL and drove it to PA, just left the old plates on. If the seller is cool about it, it's the easiest way to go about it.
Unless this is from a dealer...
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03-29-2011, 01:58 PM | #9 |
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I agree that this is a gray area but from what I've read on the RMV site myself, I think it's trying to say that you can slap your existing plates on the new car and drive it with them for 7 days maximum until you go to the RMV and transfer the registration officially. It also says you should be carrying all the documentation with you, like proof of insurance, the signed title transferring ownership of the new car to you, and your existing registration from your old car to prove that you are within that 7 day grace period in case you get pulled over.
That's my take on it at least. |
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03-29-2011, 02:24 PM | #10 |
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Here's the word from a local MA police officer
I heard back from my friend of a friend who is a local MA police officer:
Don't worry, I get questions like these all the time. And the answer is yes. As long as you get the new registration within 7 days of purchase, you can put the plates from an old car onto your newly purchased one. Basically the law is there for precisely the reason that you're using it for. Just make sure to keep the bill of sale and any other paperwork from the transaction on hand in the vehicle. Before you register it, any cop who runs your plate through his onboard computer will see one car and his or her computer will tell them that its another type. That usually tells us its stolen. So if you get pulled over and the cops act a little more aggressive than usual, that's why. Just explain what you're doing and get it registered as soon as you can. Now I'll have full piece of mind when driving back home and really enjoy the ride with no distractions. Can't wait! |
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I heard a similar story from a colleague from work purchasing in NH and coming back to MA having MAJOR problems. From what I understood you needed the plates first. |
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03-30-2011, 06:16 PM | #14 |
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Technically you need to show that you've disposed of your old car in some way to use your old plates on the car. But in reality you should be fine. Just don't do anything stupid on the way back. Good luck
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03-30-2011, 09:33 PM | #15 |
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Today I saw a new Z4 with no plates at all. There was a 20 day temp rear window sticker though. Not too sure what the deal with that was but I think the MA DMV might be able to issue you something for now?
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03-30-2011, 09:41 PM | #16 |
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awesome purchase. stop being a nervous wreck and enjoy the new ride....unless you're in Beantown....
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03-30-2011, 11:17 PM | #17 |
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No temp plates in MA
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MA does not issue temp plates (AFAIK). Which is why I believe they have this 7 day grace period for transferring the plates from the old car. At this point I'm confident that I'm following the letter of the law, and as someone else suggested, I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride home (and not do anything stupid, just to be safe). |
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03-31-2011, 09:42 PM | #18 | |
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Sorry for my mistake, I'm new to the state myself. Car def had no plates and had a temp paper up on the rear window, It was prob. bought out of state in that case.
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04-14-2011, 05:14 AM | #19 |
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i wish i had read this earlier and could have saved you some trouble.
i bought a car out of state (FL) from a dealer, activated my insurance and drove it back to MA. Had the dealer paper plate taped in the window. At the start of memorial day weekend, i got pulled over in MA 5 days later with the reason being "no plate in the vehicle plate holder." because it was a holiday weekend, and 10pm on a friday night, the officer mentioned that he had no way to verify if i actually had insurance or that it was a legit plate- no one to call apparently. long story short... my car was towed on the spot to a tow-yard in BFE (this all happened on the stretch of 95 just south of the NH/ MA border). a few days later during my court mediation, i showed my bill of sale and other dealer docs. because i was adding to my car collection (not replacing) i didn't think it was reasonable to slap plates on the new car for transport when i had no intention of swapping registrations. i figured a dealer temp plate would be legit- wrong. but the case was dismissed, outside of a $50 court fee and over $400 for tow and storage costs i was on my way. lesson learned- slap plates on it from your current car when transporting into MA from out of state. ps got into a nice argument with the officer and tow operator about why my awd vw phaeton w12 needed to be flatbedded instead of hoisted. they said vw didn't make an awd car! fml. |
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04-14-2011, 07:35 AM | #21 |
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And FYI, at least here in MA, once you buy a car it is illegal to attach a dealer plate to the vehicle. Dealer plates can only be used for vehicles that are available for sale. Once you own it, it has to be a permanent registration (no temp tags in MA).
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