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It's official: BMW has MOST (e90 ipod adapter)
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04-12-2006, 02:07 PM | #45 |
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Found this ad on ebay in Germany. As far as I can understand Deutsch (german) it integrates the ipod with the standard BMW radio's. You can browse your ipod from the steering wheel and it displays the tags on the radiodisplay. Maybe our german e90post friends can confirm it's the interface we 've all been waiting for. |
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04-12-2006, 02:16 PM | #46 | |
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04-12-2006, 02:20 PM | #47 | |
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Yes, I know. That's the problem with MP3, the compression. If you want to keep high quality sound, then you have to keep file sizes larger, which then negates the whole portability issue. Granted, storage is getting cheaper, but it'll be some time yet before we get better and cheaper. I like CD's, and the new SACD is even better and would kill even a modest 60gig hard drive. For me it's not cumbersome to carry CD's in my car. That's why I dislike BMW's insistence on single CD players. Everyone else can manage a 6CD changer in the dash except BMW. Darn shame. iPod is no substitute for that. |
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04-12-2006, 02:30 PM | #48 | |
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The noise is not an equal consequence to the CD quality, as much as the compression algorythm used. iPod is a storage device and as such will carry that much data. You can have 1 song that takes up all the space or 1000 songs that take up all the space. Point is, you have a limited space, and if you are impressed more so with carrying 10,000 songs of poor quality audio vs. 100 songs of true fidelity, then one is trading quantity for quality. The problem is that most people opt for the quantity. There are a LOT of people both young and old that don't have a reference of what good audio quality is. The younger market has been told how great having 10,000 songs on the go is and their point of reference is the MP3 compressed file format. So, they may not know what they are missing to begin with. I just hope cheap and fast storage space will come quickly along with better compression algorythmns before we have a generation of people who have either never heard a "hi-fidelity" recording, or have forgotten what it truly sounds like. BTW, people have tried to tell me there is "no" to "very little" difference in the sound quality. Well, there is, by definition even of what "compression" does, the quality can be quite poor. |
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04-12-2006, 02:46 PM | #49 |
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Are you going to carry 200 plus audio CD's in your car??? It’s called compromise. BMW doesn't have high end audio anyway so I'm not sure what the issue is. Throw in road noise and other distractions and I can handle MP3 quality with the flexibility of having thousands of songs at my finger tips.
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04-12-2006, 03:00 PM | #50 |
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Jonathan, that is great news indeed! Thanks for the scoop!
My present setup is pretty decent, with the Monster connections and charger, and I just ordered the Air Click so I can flip through tracks on the iPod without weaving all over the road... but this integration will be awesome! I hope they don't make it ridiculously expensive. I'd probably pay $300, but if it's more than that I would have to give it serious thought.
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04-12-2006, 03:16 PM | #51 |
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No, they offer this for the E90. I talked to the Passport service department and they explained that they place the iPod connection through the glove compartment and you can control and see the actual songs on the radio screen.
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04-12-2006, 03:17 PM | #52 |
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I wonder if they are going to do away with the AUX input if someone chooses the iPod integration. I would like to have both just in case I want to plug something other than an iPod into my car in the future.
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04-12-2006, 03:31 PM | #53 |
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Replying to the napster query - napster to go works with players that have the windows media player "plays for sure" logo - i have a zen micro and download my tunes to that - as long as I pay the subscription every month I can choose as much music as I can be bothered to download
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04-12-2006, 03:34 PM | #54 | |
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04-12-2006, 03:53 PM | #56 | |
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04-12-2006, 03:53 PM | #57 |
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A lot of people (rightly) focus on the compression of the music source, but don't forget there is another consideration - the digital to analog convertor in the iPod.
It will be interesting to see how the iPod actually connects through this BMW kit. If it is through the headphone jack, you will still have a loss of quality from the digital to analog conversion. The best setup would be using the USB port of the iPod to connect into the BMW kit. That way you pipe a pure digital signal into the car. I'm not holding my breath though... |
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Compression doesn't equate to loss of quality. There are lossless compression algorithms. For example, any file compression tools (e.g. winzip) you use are lossless. Similiarly, there are lossless audio compression algorithms. But anyway, I digress, this is going off topic. Quote:
Assuming every single one of your audio CD is filled to last byte (which is a gross overestimation), and assuming you do not want to compress anything (despite having lossless compression audio formats available), a 60gig iPod allows you to carry nearly 80 CDs. Carrying 80CDs to my car or carrying a tiny iPod? I think I'll take the latter. What if my CD collection is huge? Like, say, 1000 CDs? Well, unless you're gonna store 1000 CDs in the trunk of your car, you're going to have to keep everything in your shelf and only carry a select few to your car anyway. So, same thing here, pick 80 CDs and load them to your iPod. You can reload them anytime you want. Again, iPod seems to beat CD solution in every aspect. I don't own any SACDs, and I dont' know if your car plays SACDs. How much data do they hold? 5GB? Again, even with my "anti-iPod" assumption, and assuming E90 plays SACDs, the iPod still holds 12 SACDs. I think I'd rather carry an iPod than carry 12 SACDs to my car. Either way there's no quality disadvantage in using iPod, and it sure is a lot more convenient than carrying all those (SA)CDs. From where I came from, this sure looks like a substution for a 6-disc CD changer (or, rather, a way better solution). BTW I don't intend to start an ipod vs CD changer debate here. I'm just pointing out, that, if these concerns were the reason you held back on iPod, you might want to look into the "iPod craze" again as these aren't real problems with iPod. -hkj Last edited by hkj; 04-12-2006 at 04:20 PM.. |
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04-12-2006, 04:40 PM | #62 | |
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If that's true, listening to a WAV file on the iPod should sound identical to a WAV file on a CD, with no digital to analog conversion being done on the iPod... |
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04-12-2006, 09:28 PM | #64 | |
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EDIT: I didn't see the posts on the topic that i just covered. The others beat me to it.
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04-12-2006, 09:56 PM | #66 | |
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The MOST ipod adapter was unveiled today. It is not being sold yet. It is being introduced in the BMW NA market first. Your link is not for the MOST adapter.
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