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      12-10-2007, 12:27 PM   #1
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Just talked to a DINAN authorized dealer

2008's cannot BE upgraded with the new Dinan software because I was told they went to a "MOST" system for 08' and the ECU would have to be shipped to CA (Dinan HQ) where they can bench-upgrade it.....anyone else with an 08' thinking about doing this?
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2008's cannot BE upgraded with the new Dinan software because I was told they went to a "MOST" system for 08' and the ECU would have to be shipped to CA (Dinan HQ) where they can bench-upgrade it.....anyone else with an 08' thinking about doing this?
WTF...., kinda adds to the whole detuned thing....
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      12-10-2007, 12:31 PM   #3
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yeahhh wtf. Not that I would ever get a dinan flash, this is at least good info relating to the detune-fuck-fest '08.

i get my car on thursday, then to a dyno as soon as I can
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      12-10-2007, 12:31 PM   #4
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who cares about the. 08 when is this ecu going to be release... I thought it was today
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i wonder how the procede's are working on the 08's? and other tunes for that matter.
is bmw trying to go the nissan gtr route? thats trying to be untunable.
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who cares about the. 08 when is this ecu going to be release... I thought it was today
Let me see.....PEOPLE WITH 08's.....
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Let me see.....PEOPLE WITH 08's.....
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      12-10-2007, 12:41 PM   #8
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I think Procedes are having the 08 problem as well.
Haven't you guys seen the thread that shiv started wanting the 08 for testing?
Why would he start this if there wasn't a problem?

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      12-10-2007, 12:44 PM   #9
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I think Procedes are having the 08 problem as well.
Haven't you guys seen the thread that shiv started wanting the 08 for testing?
Why would he start this if there wasn't a problem?

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      12-10-2007, 12:50 PM   #10
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2008's cannot BE upgraded with the new Dinan software because I was told they went to a "MOST" system for 08' and the ECU would have to be shipped to CA (Dinan HQ) where they can bench-upgrade it.....anyone else with an 08' thinking about doing this?
Yep, my local Dinan dealer said the same thing.
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      12-10-2007, 12:56 PM   #11
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Dinan is such a bust! I knew it
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      12-10-2007, 01:31 PM   #12
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Actually, the 08's have a D-CAN diagnostic bus which requires a special 16 pin cable in order to diagnose or program the car. All the dealers have the correct 16 pin cable, but the Dinan programmer obviously does not. My guess is that Dinan will make the correct cable available soon so the 08's can be programmed also. It's really just some changes in the pins on the cables, not really a big deal.
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Yep, my local Dinan dealer said the same thing.
I am strongly considering it. It'll make my daily driver plenty fast in the snow! 405+ lb/ft of (crank) torque @ 4000 or 4500, can't remember which, is plenty strong. There are no dips in power across the rev range. It has been released today.

I know that there are better power gains out there for less money, but I want the comfort of a factory warranty. Besides, I'll have the M3 for the fast work.

I just got off the phone with Eric (Dinan). He said that the port (bus) is the reason for the change in 2008. Otherwise, the software is basically the same. Dinan expects to be able to dealer install in the near future. In the interim, Dinan will same day ship back your computer.

Dinan told that they did not find that BMW detuned the 2008 models. There will always be updates, most times for the better. At least 2008 owner's have far less fuel pump issues and other teething problems.
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      12-10-2007, 04:33 PM   #14
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So no OBDII connection on 08's???
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      12-10-2007, 04:41 PM   #15
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Actually, the 08's have a D-CAN diagnostic bus which requires a special 16 pin cable in order to diagnose or program the car. All the dealers have the correct 16 pin cable, but the Dinan programmer obviously does not. My guess is that Dinan will make the correct cable available soon so the 08's can be programmed also. It's really just some changes in the pins on the cables, not really a big deal.
Turbo,

Can you chime in on the supposed "reduced power" of the 08's? If you need thread links let me know and I can provide them if you haven't seen them already.
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      12-10-2007, 04:48 PM   #16
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Dammit...I wish my car has MOST. At least there are adapters out there to separate the clean audio signal from all the other junk.

In any case, DINAN has its own customer base and they are a good company. If DINAN provided same power as V2, I would pay whatever DINAN was asking to have it on my car. This is not the type of car to risk blowing up with resistor boxes.
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Dinan is such a bust! I knew it
And so is BMW with the 2008's.
If I had just bought an 08 or had one on order, I think I'd be calling BMWNA to complain that they "neutered" the car a bit and it's GOING to hurt sales.
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Some cars that are not 08, are being brought to the dealer and when they get the updates in their cars, they will have 08 programming...So its not just the 08's...
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      12-10-2007, 07:06 PM   #19
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And so is BMW with the 2008's.
If I had just bought an 08 or had one on order, I think I'd be calling BMWNA to complain that they "neutered" the car a bit and it's GOING to hurt sales.
I still haven't seen any proof one way of the other regarding the 2008s. I do know, however, that people are wired to believe in conspiracy and and especially worry about getting shafted. Although if BMW did nerf our car, I'll do whatever I can to retune it. Obviously I'm not alone in my thinking, so I'm skeptical of any tuners telling us the 08's are detuned.

I'll take more than 2-3 dynos to convince me, and ultimately the only one that matters is mine
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So no OBDII connection on 08's???
Never mind this. I just checked (I have an 08) and the OBDII works just fine
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There is a simple answer....There should be plenty of 08's in circulation now to get dyno results....someone needs to post them so we can see results...

On 07's we have seen dynojet results from 265 RWHP to as much as low 290's. My 07 on dynojet = 278 RWHP corrected....It was 284 uncorrected on a 70 degree day. Nashville is approx. 500 ft above sea level..
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i wonder how the procede's are working on the 08's? and other tunes for that matter.
is bmw trying to go the nissan gtr route? thats trying to be untunable.
Please explain the Nissan GTR comment..... How?
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