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      12-06-2007, 08:27 PM   #1
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Breathing room between the M3 and 335i just got a little less...

Didn't want to post this in the main M3 forum because I do not want this to devolve into a 335i vs. M3 debate. But Dinan just announced their Reflash tune for the 335i and it's a pretty healthy 384hp at the crank. Price is also pretty healthy at $1,999, but Dinan covers the manufacturer's warranty. While I know an extra 84hp doesn't transform a 335i into an M3, it is a pretty enticing option, especially since you don't throw your warranty out the window. More here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99843
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      12-06-2007, 10:05 PM   #2
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I see your 335i's 384 bhp, and raise you to an M3's 476 bhp. And, I think thats the end of that.

Source:
http://www.noellemotors.de/4_2l_engi...f5d2242.0.html

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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99384
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      12-07-2007, 12:36 PM   #3
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not bad...looks like someone already is tinkering with the m3
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      12-07-2007, 01:35 PM   #4
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Thats a given... ^^ I'm pretty sure they anticipated the 335 mod potential. If you go any higher and over 400hp internal upgrades would be needed, which = more money and no warranty.
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      12-07-2007, 02:41 PM   #5
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btw i think the dinan thing would be a waste... yes it has warranty but for 2k i would much rather buy a proceed and have cash left over to dump in the suspension... or a jb2 and have tons of cash to dump in other things.


if your worried about warranty carry the tools neccesary to pull out the piggy back in case of an emergency.

I mean if youre that scared of warranty issues you shouldnt be modding.
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$2k is pretty steap, how much does a Vish's chip cost?
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$2k is pretty steap, how much does a Vish's chip cost?
~$1400
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I see your 335i's 384 bhp, and raise you to an M3's 476 bhp. And, I think thats the end of that.

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http://www.noellemotors.de/4_2l_engi...f5d2242.0.html

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nice counter... lets see the river card
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Wait for it...... waittttt for ittttt.......

It'll show up before the end of the month I'm sure.
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BMW introduce this new Torque-vectoring rear diff into the mix then the gap between the M3 and 335i will all but disappear.
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I see your 335i's 384 bhp, and raise you to an M3's 476 bhp. And, I think thats the end of that.

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http://www.noellemotors.de/4_2l_engi...f5d2242.0.html

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UltimateBMW,

Can you explain how this extra 70hp and 30Nm being achieved, is it by the form of Forced Induction or not?
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It is purely a software package. I e-mailed the company to verify that they hadn't changed the displacement from 4.0 to 4.2 (error on their website). He assured me it was solely a software modification. Check the forum post to see the e-mail verbatim.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99384
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I don't really see how a software update on a NA engine could give 50+ hp gains.
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I don't really see how a software update on a NA engine could give 50+ hp gains.
I have to agree with E90ice on this one and if it is indeed possible then I think it must be overstretching the engine. These are the sort of figures being talked about for the RS5 and I doubt it will have the same engine as the current RS4. It does sound a little optimistic.
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$2k is pretty steap, how much does a Vish's chip cost?
True, but doesn't Dinan do a big half-off sale or something every August?
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      12-08-2007, 06:00 PM   #19
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It is purely a software package.
It's also a cat delete in the exhaust system...

...cut from your link:

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modifications to standard engine / scope of delivery:
2 pipes (without front catalysts)
new ECU program
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It is purely a software package. I e-mailed the company to verify that they hadn't changed the displacement from 4.0 to 4.2 (error on their website). He assured me it was solely a software modification. Check the forum post to see the e-mail verbatim.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99384
Says on Noelle's site that it requires a new exhaust with the cats removed.
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Says on Noelle's site that it requires a new exhaust with the cats removed.

I have checked the site too.... It clearly states that the kit includes ECU + 2 x bypass pipes - effectively removing the precats... and allowing the engine to breath...
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