E90Post
 


Lux Angel Eyes
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board > Politics/Religion > Palestine



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-27-2014, 12:25 AM   #1
mob17
Brigadier General
mob17's Avatar
United Kingdom
147
Rep
4,767
Posts

Drives: E92 335D
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: East Midlands, UK

iTrader: (4)

Palestine

Suprised no one has really made a thread about this yet.

Who else out there thinks its crazy and illegal whats happening there? Israeli army bombing hospitals, schools, beaches and killing women and children.

The IDF (Israel Defence Force) say they warned the Palestinians, but where are they supposed to go??? There's a huge wall one side and the sea the other. Are they supposed to all make a boat and hit the seas?

The IDF say they have the right to defend its citizens from rocket attacks, and i totally agree with them. They have huge amounts of investment from the US and have an amazing drone defense system which is very effective. The bumber of IDF soldiers killed in this operation is more than the number of Israelies killed by the attacks!

Please take the time to read this article by John Prescott: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...YsjEOl.twitter

And this video by Jon Snow (Channel 4 reporter):


Imagine if any other country got invaded by a certain ethnic group, their land being stolen, the original citizens being trapped in tiny areas physically, economic blockades so they all get into poverty, then when the people try to fight back they are brutally punished. The whole world would be up in arms to stop these people, dare i say it, terrorists?

The obvious answer is the special relationship the US has with Israel. I find it pretty ironic that on one hand the US is fighting this "War on Terror", and on the other its funding this massacre.

Also i would like to make clear there are a lot of Jews out there who oppose their Government actions. They set up groups and they hate what is happening. But coverage of these groups is kept to a minimum, you can probably guess why.

This is one of those Jewish groups. Have a read of the link which is their response to IDF attacks: http://www.truetorahjews.org/qanda/gaza1 Its really suprising to read views of jews, rabbis etc. The world would have you think that 100% of Jews support Israel!
__________________
E92 335D
Turbo Dynamics Hybrid Turbos, Wagner Intercooler, DPF Delete Pipe with Sports Cat, Ecotune custom map ~ 422bhp & 618ft.lbs
Íhlins R&T

Last edited by mob17; 07-27-2014 at 12:47 AM.
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 01:32 AM   #2
m3ray
Banned
No_Country
88
Rep
701
Posts

Drives: '09 e92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New York City

iTrader: (0)

Nothing new, been going on for 7 decades and not likely to stop.
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 04:09 AM   #3
confused.com
Private First Class
1
Rep
119
Posts

Drives: 335d
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: oxford

iTrader: (1)

The killing of innocent people is sad to see, but in my view this is part of the game Hamas are playing. They are inviting destruction to densely populated areas in attempt to capture a world wide audience to condemn Israel - seems to be going well so far. I can't see any other reason why they are storing destructive arms in schools and the like, and why they are even starting with Israel given their mite, yes i believe they always seem to instigate things.

Not sure what your comment about the idf losing more in this conflict than the attacks from hamas means, what do you expect them to do? Sit back and invite the rockets as its statistically better for them?

Additionally it seems the muslim world (i assume your muslim mob) are up in arms about the women and children being killed in gaza, but it doesnt appear anyone gives a rats ass about syria, iran, egypt in the past or the atrocities being commited by boko haram in nigeria? Is muslim on muslim crime acceptable? How many women and children have been killed in these countries? Im yet to see protests about innocent children being kidnapped and forgotten in nigeria, that loony tune in iran sweeping the land and killing everyone?

As per the above, this is an age old conflict - and i doubt you and i will see an end to it in our lifetimes.
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 04:39 AM   #4
gaza01
Colonel
gaza01's Avatar
United Kingdom
54
Rep
2,593
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: London

iTrader: (3)

I think its shocking, totally inhumane and ever so sad!
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 04:53 AM   #5
AWBimmer
Major General
AWBimmer's Avatar
United Kingdom
115
Rep
5,699
Posts

Drives: E92 335D Pre-LCI
Join Date: May 2011
Location: UK

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaza01 View Post
I think its shocking, totally inhumane and ever so sad!
+1
__________________
BMW E92 335D | The Custom Cars
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 05:22 AM   #6
Kassim786
Lieutenant
Kassim786's Avatar
7
Rep
480
Posts

Drives: Bmw 320d (E93) M-sport
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Leicestershire

iTrader: (1)

+2
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 06:40 AM   #7
jammy78
Lieutenant Colonel
United Kingdom
30
Rep
1,754
Posts

Drives: E92 330D M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Hertfordshire

iTrader: (21)

Unfortunately this will never be over until one side gives in.....

Ps be careful what you write - as it's an easy way to get banned from a forum!
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 07:21 AM   #8
old grey steve
Colonel
old grey steve's Avatar
United Kingdom
73
Rep
2,196
Posts

Drives: 335i Coupe.
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK in Hertfordshire

iTrader: (2)

I really struggle with this, this sort of stuffs been going on for so long out there that long after I'm gone it'll be still going on IMO.

The escalation in violence has grabbed the headlines of course Israel military might v Hamas determination means this sad state of affairs ceasefire or not will be in/out the headlines for many years to come.

Very sad state of affairs
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 09:54 AM   #9
acerboo
Brigadier General
England
67
Rep
3,829
Posts

Drives: e92 335d lci
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: kent

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mob17 View Post
Suprised no one has really made a thread about this yet.

Who else out there thinks its crazy and illegal whats happening there? Israeli army bombing hospitals, schools, beaches and killing women and children.

The IDF (Israel Defence Force) say they warned the Palestinians, but where are they supposed to go??? There's a huge wall one side and the sea the other. Are they supposed to all make a boat and hit the seas?

The IDF say they have the right to defend its citizens from rocket attacks, and i totally agree with them. They have huge amounts of investment from the US and have an amazing drone defense system which is very effective. The bumber of IDF soldiers killed in this operation is more than the number of Israelies killed by the attacks!

Please take the time to read this article by John Prescott: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...YsjEOl.twitter

And this video by Jon Snow (Channel 4 reporter):


Imagine if any other country got invaded by a certain ethnic group, their land being stolen, the original citizens being trapped in tiny areas physically, economic blockades so they all get into poverty, then when the people try to fight back they are brutally punished. The whole world would be up in arms to stop these people, dare i say it, terrorists?

The obvious answer is the special relationship the US has with Israel. I find it pretty ironic that on one hand the US is fighting this "War on Terror", and on the other its funding this massacre.

Also i would like to make clear there are a lot of Jews out there who oppose their Government actions. They set up groups and they hate what is happening. But coverage of these groups is kept to a minimum, you can probably guess why.

This is one of those Jewish groups. Have a read of the link which is their response to IDF attacks: http://www.truetorahjews.org/qanda/gaza1 Its really suprising to read views of jews, rabbis etc. The world would have you think that 100% of Jews support Israel!
what makes me laugh is the israelies are still hunting Nazi war criminals perhaps they should look closer to home?
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 07:58 PM   #10
omaragha
Lieutenant Colonel
United Kingdom
23
Rep
1,955
Posts

Drives: 335i DCT E93
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Windsor, UK

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by acerboo
Quote:
Originally Posted by mob17 View Post
Suprised no one has really made a thread about this yet.

Who else out there thinks its crazy and illegal whats happening there? Israeli army bombing hospitals, schools, beaches and killing women and children.

The IDF (Israel Defence Force) say they warned the Palestinians, but where are they supposed to go??? There's a huge wall one side and the sea the other. Are they supposed to all make a boat and hit the seas?

The IDF say they have the right to defend its citizens from rocket attacks, and i totally agree with them. They have huge amounts of investment from the US and have an amazing drone defense system which is very effective. The bumber of IDF soldiers killed in this operation is more than the number of Israelies killed by the attacks!

Please take the time to read this article by John Prescott: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...YsjEOl.twitter

And this video by Jon Snow (Channel 4 reporter):


Imagine if any other country got invaded by a certain ethnic group, their land being stolen, the original citizens being trapped in tiny areas physically, economic blockades so they all get into poverty, then when the people try to fight back they are brutally punished. The whole world would be up in arms to stop these people, dare i say it, terrorists?

The obvious answer is the special relationship the US has with Israel. I find it pretty ironic that on one hand the US is fighting this "War on Terror", and on the other its funding this massacre.

Also i would like to make clear there are a lot of Jews out there who oppose their Government actions. They set up groups and they hate what is happening. But coverage of these groups is kept to a minimum, you can probably guess why.

This is one of those Jewish groups. Have a read of the link which is their response to IDF attacks: http://www.truetorahjews.org/qanda/gaza1 Its really suprising to read views of jews, rabbis etc. The world would have you think that 100% of Jews support Israel!
what makes me laugh is the israelies are still hunting Nazi war criminals perhaps they should look closer to home?
You'd think a race of people who know what it's like to be suppressed and murdered, would think twice to handing it out themselves !!
__________________
Engine Mods: JB4 G5 ISO, Wedge Flash, BMS DCI, ETS FMIC, ER CP, AR Catless DP's, BMS OCC, BMS Cowel filters & Forge DV's.
Running Gear Mods: Graphite Atomic CSL's, Birds B3 Suspension, Stoptech Grooved Rotors & Yellow Stuff pads.
Cosmetic: Performance Grill and Diffuser, Carbon Badges, Carbon Interior
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 08:50 PM   #11
imygaf
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: e92 325i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by confused.com View Post
The killing of innocent people is sad to see, but in my view this is part of the game Hamas are playing. They are inviting destruction to densely populated areas in attempt to capture a world wide audience to condemn Israel - seems to be going well so far. I can't see any other reason why they are storing destructive arms in schools and the like, and why they are even starting with Israel given their mite, yes i believe they always seem to instigate things.

Not sure what your comment about the idf losing more in this conflict than the attacks from hamas means, what do you expect them to do? Sit back and invite the rockets as its statistically better for them?

Additionally it seems the muslim world (i assume your muslim mob) are up in arms about the women and children being killed in gaza, but it doesnt appear anyone gives a rats ass about syria, iran, egypt in the past or the atrocities being commited by boko haram in nigeria? Is muslim on muslim crime acceptable? How many women and children have been killed in these countries? Im yet to see protests about innocent children being kidnapped and forgotten in nigeria, that loony tune in iran sweeping the land and killing everyone?

As per the above, this is an age old conflict - and i doubt you and i will see an end to it in our lifetimes.
Think your user name is quite fitting
Appreciate 0
      07-27-2014, 09:02 PM   #12
webwysard
Captain
webwysard's Avatar
United Kingdom
14
Rep
721
Posts

Drives: CUPRA R
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: North West

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by confused.com View Post
The killing of innocent people is sad to see, but in my view this is part of the game Hamas are playing. They are inviting destruction to densely populated areas in attempt to capture a world wide audience to condemn Israel - seems to be going well so far. I can't see any other reason why they are storing destructive arms in schools and the like, and why they are even starting with Israel given their mite, yes i believe they always seem to instigate things.

Not sure what your comment about the idf losing more in this conflict than the attacks from hamas means, what do you expect them to do? Sit back and invite the rockets as its statistically better for them?

Additionally it seems the muslim world (i assume your muslim mob) are up in arms about the women and children being killed in gaza, but it doesnt appear anyone gives a rats ass about syria, iran, egypt in the past or the atrocities being commited by boko haram in nigeria? Is muslim on muslim crime acceptable? How many women and children have been killed in these countries? Im yet to see protests about innocent children being kidnapped and forgotten in nigeria, that loony tune in iran sweeping the land and killing everyone?

As per the above, this is an age old conflict - and i doubt you and i will see an end to it in our lifetimes.
Pretty sure you didn't bother reading the link mentioned by mob17.
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 03:31 AM   #13
adam246
Banned
3
Rep
374
Posts

Drives: BMW E90 320d
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Doncaster

iTrader: (4)

The biggest terrorist organisation out there is the state of Israel... Need I say more!!

Oh and BBC and Sky News wake the f**p up and stop bullshitting and feeding people lies about the situation in Gaza!!

FREE PALESTINE!!!!
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 05:51 AM   #14
imygaf
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: e92 325i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (1)

Just read the John Prescot article. At last someone speaking sense.
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 06:00 AM   #15
imygaf
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: e92 325i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by confused.com View Post
The killing of innocent people is sad to see, but in my view this is part of the game Hamas are playing. They are inviting destruction to densely populated areas in attempt to capture a world wide audience to condemn Israel - seems to be going well so far. I can't see any other reason why they are storing destructive arms in schools and the like, and why they are even starting with Israel given their mite, yes i believe they always seem to instigate things.
The IDF headquarters is surrounded by block of flats, shopping centre, school and offices.

The biggest legitimate target not exactly kept away from civilian area
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 06:18 AM   #16
imygaf
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: e92 325i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (1)

Don't believe everything you read or see on news

Interesting video
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 06:23 AM   #17
IanS100
Brigadier General
IanS100's Avatar
England
50
Rep
3,318
Posts

Drives: 520d F10 LCI M Sport
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Southport UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by imygaf View Post
Don't believe everything you read or see on news
Or read on forums?!?
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 06:54 AM   #18
vexith
Private First Class
3
Rep
137
Posts

Drives: E90 320D M Sport
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Leicester

iTrader: (0)

Just realized i posted this message on another thread by mistake lol, oops. Anyways here it is:

Sad state of affairs indeed, my heart goes out to the innocent children and adults alike that have been caught up in this Hamas vs Israeli conflict.

Depending on which side you are supporting, it's hard to dismiss the fact that Israel is taking things too far with this collective punishment of the Gaza public. Most of the casualties have been innocent civilians and schools and hospitals have been destroyed. Now we must ask ourselves, how is this supposedly getting rid of these so called "terrorists" that Israel are ranting on about?

What's more is that our own David Cameroon has come out and firmly expressed support for Israel in this ongoing crisis when the evidence is there to show that this isn't a war. A war would imply that either chance has a side of winning. So far it seems like "Operation: wipe out Palestine".

I just hope peace is restored soon, it's not fair for children to be living like this. It's not fair for the innocents to wake up everyday wondering if they would survive another day.
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 07:08 AM   #19
imygaf
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
207
Posts

Drives: e92 325i
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Glasgow

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by IanS100 View Post
Or read on forums?!?
Very true. But have to admit that news coverage seems to be more than a little bit biased. The Israeli offensive is completely indiscriminate and disproportionate. If this was any country other than Israel there would be international condemnation of the atrocities and war crimes
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 08:48 AM   #20
Josh1a1h
Banned
United Kingdom
61
Rep
3,830
Posts

Drives: AzuriteBlack 335i E92
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central North to West London

iTrader: (2)

+1 @Confused.com

Any news we read or hear will always be biased either way.

My heart goes out to all the children that have been injured on both sides.

This is all terrible news for both sides and the Palestinians are suffering, but the Jewish people and their image are also being destroyed.

Hamas must agree to a ceasefire otherwise they are just inviting more blood shed.

There is hopefully a way of coming to an agreement but history has shown that religion as an entire entity is a major cause of conflict anywhere and everywhere.
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 09:23 AM   #21
makkan00
Major General
makkan00's Avatar
United Kingdom
239
Rep
8,710
Posts

Drives: F10
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

iTrader: (55)

Quote:
Originally Posted by confused.com View Post
The killing of innocent people is sad to see, but in my view this is part of the game Hamas are playing. They are inviting destruction to densely populated areas in attempt to capture a world wide audience to condemn Israel - seems to be going well so far. I can't see any other reason why they are storing destructive arms in schools and the like, and why they are even starting with Israel given their mite, yes i believe they always seem to instigate things.

Not sure what your comment about the idf losing more in this conflict than the attacks from hamas means, what do you expect them to do? Sit back and invite the rockets as its statistically better for them?

Additionally it seems the muslim world (i assume your muslim mob) are up in arms about the women and children being killed in gaza, but it doesnt appear anyone gives a rats ass about syria, iran, egypt in the past or the atrocities being commited by boko haram in nigeria? Is muslim on muslim crime acceptable? How many women and children have been killed in these countries? Im yet to see protests about innocent children being kidnapped and forgotten in nigeria, that loony tune in iran sweeping the land and killing everyone?

As per the above, this is an age old conflict - and i doubt you and i will see an end to it in our lifetimes.
I bet you do not know the origin of Hamas...



And if you think Hamas should be punished, then yes I am in agreement with it but why killing kids playing on the beach....
What justification would you give for that?
Were those kids hiding rockets in the beach sand or under the water?

And something else for you to read

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07...inian-mothers/


I will avoid commenting on your forum name but your statement has said it enough.

Lastly, you do not have to be MUSLIM to feel for whats going on.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-28-2014, 09:26 AM   #22
makkan00
Major General
makkan00's Avatar
United Kingdom
239
Rep
8,710
Posts

Drives: F10
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Essex

iTrader: (55)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vexith View Post

What's more is that our own David Cameroon has come out and firmly expressed support for Israel in this ongoing crisis when the evidence is there to show that this isn't a war. A war would imply that either chance has a side of winning. So far it seems like "Operation: wipe out Palestine".
Unfortunately, we (British) have lost our own identity. We are seen as a bitch of USA globally! Whatever they say, we will do without even thinking let alone questioning.
__________________
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:26 AM.




e90post
e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST