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      02-10-2008, 03:53 PM   #45
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Have it, I won't give anything over 500 for a fake essienmann.
700 is a shit load of money for fake/low quality muffler.
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      02-10-2008, 04:14 PM   #46
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      02-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #47
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Have it, I won't give anything over 500 for a fake essienmann.
700 is a shit load of money for fake/low quality muffler.
Why is it low quality? Because it was made in korea? I dont think so man, I have the "fake" muffler and the quality is suburb. Sure its fake, but then only those will buy this is who enjoy the sound of it.

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Why is it low quality? Because it was made in korea? I dont think so man, I have the "fake" muffler and the quality is suburb. Sure its fake, but then only those will buy this is who enjoy the sound of it.

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How do you know its good quality? I mean it could be made out of pot metal and chrome plated... It will take 1-2 years for rust to eat thru chrome plating so in a little while we will see if these exhausts/hangers will hold up... If they start falling apart i dont think people will care how they sound... Also i have heard this exhaust with section 1,2, and 3 and it sounds terrible IMO, i cant imagine how horrible it would sound with catless DP's...
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I never liked the way it sounded if it was real or not section 1, 2 and 3..I thought the sound of it was loud and raspy as hell...I think people buy this exhaust mainly because of the name...To me the noise that comes out of it, whether it real or not doesn't even compare to my $1200 catback CP-e exhaust.. People buy a exhaust because you like the way it sounds and looks not the name...Shit 900+ just for the section 3 is too much for my pocket....I realize if you found out its a fake then get some kind of reimbursement, but before people found out it was a fake, they loved the sound and the way it looked...Now its a fake and everyone wants to sell it and thinks it no longer good!!!
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Why is it low quality? Because it was made in korea? I dont think so man, I have the "fake" muffler and the quality is suburb. Sure its fake, but then only those will buy this is who enjoy the sound of it.

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How do I know? Cause I've seen the design and welding on it.
It looks nice on the outside but your not sure how it looks or how well it will hold up in the long run.
Trust me, I've been searching for mufflers for a long time now, the essienmann design doesn't impress me. I've seen better for half the price.
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7.01 for it!! SHipped!
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Who cares if its fake, as long as it has the sound. No body is gonna know its fake, its only us car enthusiasts that might know it.
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Who cares if its fake, as long as it has the sound. No body is gonna know its fake, its only us car enthusiasts that might know it.
I'm pretty sure a real essienmann and a fake would sound different.
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I'm pretty sure a real essienmann and a fake would sound different.
have you heard both yet? lol cuz they do sound the same
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I have heared both and I own the real Eisenmann Race...the ribbed version. There is no comparison in sound. Eisenman - Germany would not release something that sounds like the fake race version into production.

The quality of the fake race version looks pretty good though! then again I can only comment on the looks.
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i dont care where they are made as long as they sound good and the welds look nice...
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Why is it low quality? Because it was made in korea? I dont think so man, I have the "fake" muffler and the quality is suburb. Sure its fake, but then only those will buy this is who enjoy the sound of it.

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i think he might be Korean.
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SALE PENDING.. I will keep those that are interested up to date if the sale falls through.
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i asked some people who are in the business and they said that although these are not the eisenmann exhaust, eisenmann did actually know eisenhaus was producing it. If you look at the eisenmann booth from the SEMA show and the ESSEN show you will notice that the meisterschaft series was on display. Also, the two people who signed the "letter" bashing eisenhaus are german and they don't speak a word of english. Sources have said that someone from IND wrote that letter and just told the guys at eisenmann to sign it. As for people referring this as a fake exhaust, in a sense yes it is not eisenmann, but the meisterschaft series is a well made exhaust. I mean 6 months ago people who had the meisterschaft exhaust love it for the performance and the sound, but now someone tells you its fake and all of a sudden you hate it? As for the origin of this exhaust, its made in three different places Korea, Japan and Germany. They opened the Korean factory purely because the other two couldn't keep up the demand for all the orders. Overall, this exhaust in my opinion is still a pretty legit exhaust. Sounds good and performs well, after all at least its not made in China.

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in my country, samsung and LG TVs are the best sellers and they are korean. Korean made products are expensive.
so some of those are now being made in Taiwan or Thailand funny some say korean made are low quality or cheap, because that is not the case at all.
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SALE PENDING.. I will keep those that are interested up to date if the sale falls through.
why would you even consider anything less than a complete refund for it from Eissenhaus?
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Because I bought it some time ago and there is no way to dispute the sale on the CC. I already called and attempted that. And Eisenhaus aren't refunding, called. They are backing the product and their side of the story.
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Judging by the looks of the TIG welds and the light gold tint on the pipes it appears that this system is made from an austenitic stainless. Is it 304, couldn't say. But most people that use 304 have no idea that 321 would be a better choice anyway.
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SALE PENDING.. I will keep those that are interested up to date if the sale falls through.
SALE didn't happen, it's still available.
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Wait I am confused? What story? IT SAYS EISENMANN IN BIG LETTERS ON THE Cannisters.. Now they are selling it as a Meistershaft GT. How do they even have a leg to stand on? How can something be branded EISENMANN and have someone not expect it to be? Call em back.
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What's this about Eisenhaus' side of the story? That they got scammed by Korean entrepreneurs shipping genuine Eisenmann exhausts made in Korea?
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