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      02-18-2008, 06:29 PM   #89
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      02-18-2008, 07:04 PM   #90
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Do I have to repeat myself? I'm not hating. So stop trying to paint me as such. Hotrod's run is not the same. Different mods, different driver, different (slower) times. I'm talking about the exact same mods, running the exact same times. Almost 4/10th's slower in the 1/4 is a big difference.

Call me hard to please, but with all the sketchy sheit going on lately it takes alittle more evidence to me than just a timeslip by a vendor. (See: VIP) DISCLAIMER: I'm not comparing Terry to VIP as that would be doing Terry a great injustice comparing him to those scumbags. But thanks to people like them, I'm expecting a lot more out of vendors to justify their products so we don't get hype and/or lies. It's not anyones fault because of VIP's screwup's but I think they've cast a dark cloud over other vendors because of their horrid business practices.

Once again, I love Terry, nice guy but that has nothing to do with how fast his car is. I remember not so long ago when any tuner posted dyno's people would question them. First with Terry, then with Shiv. What happened to people wanting to have the runs verified by someone else WITH THE EXACT SAME MODS? That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying he's scamming or BS'ing, or he's using smoke and mirrors. Show me someone running the same time with the same mods and he will get my (for his mods, I respect him for his contributions already).

There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting 3rd party verification if I'm going to spend my money on their product. It's the vendors just to justify me spending my money on their product. We all know how dragtimes and dynos can be tweaked (again see: VIP). Some of you may be quicker to by into a product and that's completely fine! Some of us are more skeptical. Who are you to tell me its wrong to feel that way? It's my money.

Regardless, they are impressive times. Still waiting to see someone else in the 11's without NOS (coughVIPcough).

Dude...do you work for the IRS?

Kidding man, just bustin' your chops...really, I think more than a few JB2+ users have put up low to mid 12s...close to Terry's car (+ silmilar dynos).

Given enough time, he figures out a ways get faster and faster (DP+HHR combos+dual cones+ DRs+race gas+sick 60'ft times+no sport or prem=lighter wt etc).

I will agree with you on one point...of course its in Terry's best interest to keep tinkering, keep perfecting launch techniques, and to push his car to edge. Its good business...not shady business.

Oh, and FTR, hit him up with the mods listed above, and he'll get your car movin' for sure.
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      02-18-2008, 07:27 PM   #91
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thats a ridiculous time!.....way to go
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once we hit this on 91 octane then ill be impressed
never gonna happen unless you throw in a M5 motor in
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      02-18-2008, 09:10 PM   #93
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Who has the same mods?

Catless DP's, JB2HHR, Dyno Glory intake, 97 octane, ET streets, and the steptronic....

I dont believe anyone does..... So obviously you can't duplicate them....
That's not my problem. I'm not selling a product. You CAN duplicate them. No one has just yet. So until someone does, I reserve my judgement. I'm not one biased one way or the other. I could care less really. I'm just telling you what it takes for me to believe the lowest times these days.
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I really like seeing people flogging the crap out of their 6AT cars with race gas and drag radials. Primarily because if anyone's going to break their 6AT, it's going to be someone running an extreme tune and drag radials. Makes me feel pretty safe on PS2s at my V2-only tune @ 111mph...

So much for those people who said the 6AT couldn't take much more than a moderate boost increase!
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Tuner to tuner, I say congrat Terry!! good job! PM me, I might be interested in speaking to you about your JB and carrying it for our customers.
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Tuner to tuner, I say congrat Terry!! good job! PM me, I might be interested in speaking to you about your JB and carrying it for our customers.
You gotta PM him on the "other" site, he is no longer on this site....
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That's not my problem. I'm not selling a product. You CAN duplicate them. No one has just yet. So until someone does, I reserve my judgement. I'm not one biased one way or the other. I could care less really. I'm just telling you what it takes for me to believe the lowest times these days.

The car ran it, no tricks. There was no nos. Its all math and the timeslip tells the story. I filmed the run, looked at the engine and tires. Terry has been at nearly all the track events I attend. I did not believe the carcould achieve this either, figured it was running spray , but hell we all saw his routine stood around his car for hours and talked. His driving is what got the car in the 11.80's , it was a good day. This may not be matched but whether it is or not is moot, we know it can run what it did because we saw it happen.


You should be proud to own a car that is so easily modded to achieve similar times to cars costing 90k more!

11.80's do not grow on trees and it surely is not gonna happen alot. I betcha, it takes a while to match or beat this time. This is a 12.1-12.40's car @112-114. The 11.89 is a product of the 60ft being OUTSTANDING.
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The car ran it, no tricks. There was no nos. Its all math and the timeslip tells the story. I filmed the run, looked at the engine and tires. Terry has been at nearly all the track events I attend. I did not believe the carcould achieve this either, figured it was running spray , but hell we all saw his routine stood around his car for hours and talked. His driving is what got the car in the 11.80's , it was a good day. This may not be matched but whether it is or not is moot, we know it can run what it did because we saw it happen.


You should be proud to own a car that is so easily modded to achieve similar times to cars costing 90k more!

11.80's do not grow on trees and it surely is not gonna happen alot. I betcha, it takes a while to match or beat this time. This is a 12.1-12.40's car @112-114. The 11.89 is a product of the 60ft being OUTSTANDING.

Good times, no matter who ran it. by the way, did the car run with Drag Radials?
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Good times, no matter who ran it. by the way, did the car run with Drag Radials?
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The car was run with a 26x11.5 slick. The side wall is tall and the rubber very soft on super light Kosei 17" rims.. This alone was worth .3-4. When Hotrod placed the slick on his 335 he went from 12.60 to 12.24! Da improved slightly but no way enough to gain this much in ET. so air likely was worth .1 and the tires .26

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What did the Nos'ed Cobra run?
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What did the Nos'ed Cobra run?
The driver of that Mustang had a huge bottle of nos in the passenger side, the seat was removed, he had a roll cage and told me he normally hits 11.40's. I was focused on the BMW so I did not see the actual #s on the filmed pass, I am almost certain I heard the car spray and it was definately reeling the BMW in but he failed to close fast enough. I agree he was suprised and the great launch by the 335 caused him to shift less smoothly.

So according to the driver this Mustang is an 11.40-11.90's car. His time would be on the slips hmm let me check drag times, crud no luck. I am pretty certain he was muttering that he had a shi**y pass a 11.85 ..

On Terrys record run he did not even leave and was beaten by nearly 1 second by a car that ran 11.95@115. He left .8 after the green. so you can be waxed onthe video and still achieve a lower ET
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But as asked again. What does this mean for Reliabilty on the engines.. I just dont see this being healthy for our motors in the long run. I guess only time will tell
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But as asked again. What does this mean for Reliabilty on the engines.. I just dont see this being healthy for our motors in the long run. I guess only time will tell
No one knows because the car has only been out for a year and a half....

You are right, only time will tell. For all we knows this could be fine as long as you are not constantly running 15psi+.....
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This is a great accomplishment for the BMW 335i. Thank you Terry for achieving these times.

We all enjoy seeing a good fast car, no matter what tune they are running, so again somebody tell Terry CONGRATS.
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The car ran it, no tricks. There was no nos. Its all math and the timeslip tells the story. I filmed the run, looked at the engine and tires. Terry has been at nearly all the track events I attend. I did not believe the carcould achieve this either, figured it was running spray , but hell we all saw his routine stood around his car for hours and talked. His driving is what got the car in the 11.80's , it was a good day. This may not be matched but whether it is or not is moot, we know it can run what it did because we saw it happen.


You should be proud to own a car that is so easily modded to achieve similar times to cars costing 90k more!

11.80's do not grow on trees and it surely is not gonna happen alot. I betcha, it takes a while to match or beat this time. This is a 12.1-12.40's car @112-114. The 11.89 is a product of the 60ft being OUTSTANDING.
I didn't say he was running NOS and I'm not saying there weren't any witnesses there, because I know there's a video of it. When someone duplicates the time with the same mods then I will give a round of applause, until then its just marketing to me. Again, no offense to Terry. Great guy, great times. Call me hard to please.
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I didn't say he was running NOS and I'm not saying there weren't any witnesses there, because I know there's a video of it. When someone duplicates the time with the same mods then I will give a round of applause, until then its just marketing to me. Again, no offense to Terry. Great guy, great times. Call me hard to please.
I understand and I share your dis-trust of tuners in general. Obviously Terry runs the car to test his Tune. So the best selling point would be to run the best times. Another selling point is non grenading of the engine. The Tuner has risks the modder has risks in this thread the only thing that matters is that this Tuner/Driver achieved a great pass and that cannot be denied. Motives can be discussed ad naseum, this is about the 335's potential in the 1/4 mile and the Tuners products. will anyone push the car as hard as Terry? does this make Terry's run somehow dishonest? I think not
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I understand and I share your dis-trust of tuners in general. Obviously Terry runs the car to test his Tune. So the best selling point would be to run the best times. Another selling point is non grenading of the engine. The Tuner has risks the modder has risks in this thread the only thing that matters is that this Tuner/Driver achieved a great pass and that cannot be denied. Motives can be discussed ad naseum, this is about the 335's potential in the 1/4 mile and the Tuners products. will anyone push the car as hard as Terry? does this make Terry's run somehow dishonest? I think not
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Yeah great meeting you as well.

Hope we can do itt all again.

She ran a 12.110@115.68 at 5:29pm

Yeah your times were shocking to alot of the drag racers. I heard alot of muttering....LOL
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Yeah great meeting you as well.

Hope we can do itt all again.

She ran a 12.110@115.68 at 5:29pm

Yeah your times were shocking to alot of the drag racers. I heard alot of muttering....LOL
12.1 @ 115

hmm, maybe I left too early.
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