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      04-03-2015, 11:43 AM   #1
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4D Carbon Fiber Vinyl

Anyone use this "4D" carbon fiber vinyl stuff? Ive heard good things in terms of it looking more realistic thathan the 3m stuff. There are some ebay sellers selling what they are calling 4D, but I don't know if it's any good. It's got a glossy finish instead of matte.

Anyone tried this stuff?
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I have a friend who had his interior trim vinyled with the 4d CF and it looked realllly good
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Thanks! Unfortunately the company where he got the 4D CF vinyl from isn't selling it anymore it looks like. Also sounds more difficult to install than 1080. But it DOES look good!
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I have a friend who had his interior trim vinyled with the 4d CF and it looked realllly good
Any idea where he got it from?
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I have a friend who had his interior trim vinyled with the 4d CF and it looked realllly good
Any idea where he got it from?
No idea, but I do know it was by 3m
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No idea, but I do know it was by 3m
Unless I'm mistaken, they don't make a "4D" CF so it must have been their Di-noc or 1080 carbon fiber.
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3M doesn't make 4D, it's currently mostly made by Chinese vendors and sold on eBay. I think the most realistic one is made by Ikon, a forum member posted here and it looks great in his pics. I've used 4D from eBay and it is more realistic than regular CF vinyl, but not quite as good as the real thing. It's got more gloss which helps, but the printed weave isn't as good as say 3M 1080 or Hexis which have the texture. Real CF of course has the texture and then the resin over.
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Yeah it think it was the 1080 vinyl. Didn't look as glossy as real CF, but looked very close!
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I got the 4D from Ikonwraps, but appears they don't sell it anymore.

Check out ebay...sometimes it goes by 5D. It's a no name brand but looks pretty good. Similar to the Ikonwraps stuff but half the price.
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They're up to 5D now? When will it end...

I see it's pretty cheap on eBay, but I would prefer some real world experience since a good quality wrap will make wrapping the interior way easier. I leaning more towards 1080 just because it's pretty easy to use.
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I can also confirm that the Ikon 4D CF glossy vinyl was easily the most realistic CF vinyl I've seen to date. It blows 1080/Di-noc out of the water in terms of appearance. But, it also appears that Ikon isn't offering it anymore.
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So anyone have experience with 4D CF vinyl that isn't from ikon?
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Now that I think about it, I did buy some "4D Carbon Fiber" vinyl from metro-restyling, but it just looked like 1080/Di-noc and didn't adhere very well.
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So anyone have experience with 4D CF vinyl that isn't from ikon?
I've had some from Ebay. Much more difficult to work with than 3m 1080.
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Gonna chime in because I got my hands on some of this 4D stuff today. It has a very high gloss and texture to it. At first glance it looks awesome but once you get a good look at it, it looks very fake.
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Gonna chime in because I got my hands on some of this 4D stuff today. It has a very high gloss and texture to it. At first glance it looks awesome but once you get a good look at it, it looks very fake.
How does it compare to 1080 though in terms of looking face?

How difficult is it to apply compared to 1080?
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How does it compare to 1080 though in terms of looking face?

How difficult is it to apply compared to 1080?
I didn't try a wrap with it. Just had a custom decal order to do. If its for a wrap, I avoid the newer and unproven chinese vinyl.

As far as looks, I feel like the 1080 looks very dull. This stuff is the complete opposite and looks too shiny. I'd still probably choose 3M though
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I didn't try a wrap with it. Just had a custom decal order to do. If its for a wrap, I avoid the newer and unproven chinese vinyl.

As far as looks, I feel like the 1080 looks very dull. This stuff is the complete opposite and looks too shiny. I'd still probably choose 3M though
Yeah that seems to be the problem in the market right now, the fake CF Chinese vinyl still looks better than the 3m CF stuff. Unfortunately it's not as easy to work with.
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Wrapped mine two days ago with 5d carbon. It looks so fake. Also its harder to wrap. PIA to get the air bubbles out. This vinyl will trap air bubbles. Won't go away like other wraps. You have to get air bubble out or it will stay there forever.

Looks really good on door trims(e92) but it looks so horrible on center shifter trim. Plan to rewrap just center shifter trim with brushed aluminum in couple months.

Wrapped all trims with 5d carbon except for my front dash(black brushed aluminum)
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Wrapped mine two days ago with 5d carbon. It looks so fake. Also its harder to wrap. PIA to get the air bubbles out. This vinyl will trap air bubbles. Won't go away like other wraps. You have to get air bubble out or it will stay there forever.

Looks really good on door trims(e92) but it looks so horrible on center shifter trim. Plan to rewrap just center shifter trim with brushed aluminum in couple months.

Wrapped all trims with 5d carbon except for my front dash(black brushed aluminum)
Brushed aluminum > 5d Carbon
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