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      06-15-2005, 12:29 PM   #67
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      06-15-2005, 01:21 PM   #68
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I think the car's got the flu, because those pictures are sick! Beautiful pics.
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      06-15-2005, 03:12 PM   #69
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Damn! That is NAUGHTY!!!

But what's with the exhaust? Is it a 320 diesel? Don't tell me you put those rims on a diesel... Still it has the 330i front... What is this???
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      06-15-2005, 03:31 PM   #70
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Damn! That is NAUGHTY!!!

But what's with the exhaust? Is it a 320 diesel? Don't tell me you put those rims on a diesel... Still it has the 330i front... What is this???
Yes, it is a 320d with 19" BBS CH 235front, 265rear, and lowered suspension. The owner posted the pics on a french forum www.autotitre.com/forum, so I guess the photos were taken from there... were they ? Since the owner didn't even know they were posted here...

The front kidneys have been changed to chrome ones (same as all 6 cylinders in europe)

The suspension setting is -5 front -3.5 rear.
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      06-15-2005, 05:36 PM   #71
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And there's more to it... This picture below shows how the 320d should look. It doesn't have the horizontal piece in the lower part of the front....

Seems like the whole front was changed... but why... why... for the love of god.... All that work on a diesel?? *Sigh*....
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      06-15-2005, 06:11 PM   #72
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gnosis> The front bumper was not changed... The one on your picture just doesn't have the fog lights... maybe it comes like this with the basic options... This one has a pack including the fog lights... Or it is just because it is a computer generated picture, so it doesn't have all the details...
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      06-16-2005, 07:05 AM   #73
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I'm not talking about the fog lights... I mean the horizontal plastic piece in the lower part of the front. The 320d and 320i dosen't have one. The 325i has it. And the 330i has a chromed version.

In this picture it looks like it has that horizontal piece - which it shouldn't have....

Ahhh - well. forget it. those wheels are awesome!!
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      06-16-2005, 08:32 PM   #74
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gnosis> I know... What I was saying, is that the bumper without the horizontal line, is the one without the fog lights...

If you get the fog lights you get this bumper, whether it is a 320d, a 320i or a 325i.... the 330i has the same one, but with chrome

I have seen other pictures of 320d in France, and with fog lights they all had the horizontal plastic line
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      06-17-2005, 05:15 AM   #75
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Sorry you are wrong

All 320i and 320d here get the horizontal pieces, wether they have foglights or not. ( i have the pictures to proove it )

Only one that is different is the 330i where they are silverish
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      06-17-2005, 06:06 AM   #76
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Ok - seems like BMW has some dim rules for when to put on the horizontal piece. But anyway - it seems that it's ok for this 320d to have that piece.

I thought it was a strict "signal" for which engine you had choosed. You know - like the different exhaust pipes. But it's not then....

Thanks for your input!
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Here's a bog standard, dirty one......

320i SE (UK Spec)

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      06-21-2005, 08:51 PM   #78
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Sweet car and pics EVO. Make sure to show us how the car looks with CF lip and rear spoiler. I think the CF will look awesome on a black car!
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Hey!! That's my car! Not bad, not bad.... I like I like....
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And there's more to it... This picture below shows how the 320d should look. It doesn't have the horizontal piece in the lower part of the front....

Seems like the whole front was changed... but why... why... for the love of god.... All that work on a diesel?? *Sigh*....

Gnosis,

Why not on a diesel? On anything other than straight away from the lights, that 320d will keep right up there with your 330i. The in gear acceleration on the 320d is virtually identical to the 330i and totally SMOKES the 325i.

When the 330d comes out, it will totally blow away the 330i and maybe then diesel owners will laugh at your car and say "..but why... why... for the love of god.... All that work on a petrol?? *Sigh*."

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      06-22-2005, 09:47 AM   #83
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I have driven both the 320d and the (European) 325i. Revving up to 7000rpm is so much more fun than the sound of a civilized truck engine.

The 325i is one second slower on 80-120km/h acceleration in fourth gear than the 320d (7.5s vs 6.5s) . I am sure the 325i is quicker when you put it in third gear, which I think is not possible with the 320d (at least not all the way up to 120km/h).
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      06-22-2005, 12:26 PM   #84
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I promise I won't be a bit jealous of the 330d drivers. I'm sure it'll be a very nice and fast car but if it was downright pulling power I wanted I could have gotten the current M3, the RS4 or something else at a similar price as the new 330i.

However - for the ultimate in tactility and involvment few things beats a straight natural aspirated six. And a diesel will never sound like or rev like a proper gasoline engine.

And for the torque/hp debate. Torque is only good for in-gear accereration. The amount of horsepower you have is what really determines ultimate acceleration and top speed.

A 320d will not see which way a well driven 325 went.
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I promise I won't be a bit jealous of the 330d drivers. I'm sure it'll be a very nice and fast car but if it was downright pulling power I wanted I could have gotten the current M3, the RS4 or something else at a similar price as the new 330i.

However - for the ultimate in tactility and involvment few things beats a straight natural aspirated six. And a diesel will never sound like or rev like a proper gasoline engine.

And for the torque/hp debate. Torque is only good for in-gear accereration. The amount of horsepower you have is what really determines ultimate acceleration and top speed.

A 320d will not see which way a well driven 325 went.
Gnosis,

I wasn't intending to start a hp/torque or diesel/petrol debate; this is the media gallery after all. However, I am just curious as to why you think its so ridiculous that someone would try to make their diesel BMW look "sportier" (for want of a better word)? The BMW Diesel's of a given displacement are equally as fast if not faster than their petrol equivalents in every practical metric other than 0-60, and the 320d beats the petrol engined 320i here in that respect as well.

As regards sound, you clearly have not driven the 320d. On anything other than idle, the engine is as refined and civilised as the petrols. I have not doubt the 330d will improve on that further.

So again, I ask the question. The BMW diesels are as fast and handle as well as the petrol equivalents in most situations. Why is it a matter of ridicule for someone to upgrade their wheels? Is it not a "proper BMW"?

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Footnote;

I am no expert but I believe this statement to be either factually incorrect or misleading at best

"Torque is only good for in-gear accereration. The amount of horsepower you have is what really determines ultimate acceleration and top speed."

I thought cars accelerated hardest at their torque peaks in any given gear and that hp is a calculated value based on the torque produced by the engine at any given rpm. And actually, in gear acceleration is what is most useful to 95% of drivers 95% of the time. Unless you are a traffic light maniac or love high rpm dumped clutch starts, in gear acceleration is vital, particularly where overtaking is concerned.

Finally on the 320d v 325i debate, that statement makes me almost 99.99999% certain you haven't driven the 320d. Because, I am pretty sure that for any given cross country route, and two drivers of equal ability, the 325i would not be able to lose the 320d.

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And for the torque/hp debate. Torque is only good for in-gear accereration. The amount of horsepower you have is what really determines ultimate acceleration and top speed.

A 320d will not see which way a well driven 325 went.
I think you have destroyed your own argument there......

Torque = in-gear acceleration = real world speed A:B.

Having said that, I would support your view that an in-line 6 is much nicer to listen to/rev....

Fortnately/unfortunately today's diesels are very different beasts to the old truck engines, and they perform very well indeed.

But hey, this is the "gallery section".....
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In reply to both your posts:

I have driven the 320d automatic, the 325i automatic, the 325 manual and the 330i manual.

Yes - maximum acceleration for any given gear often occur at the torque peak. But maxium acceleration for any given SPEED often occur at the horsepower peak. And since the 325 has much more horsepower it will be able to accelerate faster. This is simple physics.

However you do need to keep that 325 boiling. And that was what I meant by "well driven".

The 320d is a proper BMW - no doubt. But that car doesn't need those wheels!! They are just to good for it. I'm very against "over-wheeled" and "under-motored" cars in general...
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There's a nice little moment in the new Batman movie "Batman Begins" where Bruce Wayne is looking at a prototype of the batmobile but it's in a desert camoflage color scheme. He asks the person showing him the car (Morgan Freeman) "does it come in black?"
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